We made it to Ohio and the early TV museum convention. QUite a few people are showing up. Steve's KUBA KOMET and GE Octagon are both arriving by tomorrow morning. Attached picture of attendies studying Steve's new color adapter for BW TV sets.

Edited picture.....

Here's my version of the original photo....I used nothing more than the lowly Microsoft Photo Editor...clicked on "Image" and then "AutoBalance" and finally saved it.

Anthony (sure wish I could be there!)

I used ACDSee edit feature, either way post more of what went on.

I'll have some shots and a group photo of AK members sometime tomorrow.

Good speakers today. John Trenouth from British Museum gave a informative and funny show, Pete Fasciano of Avid 's story about test patterns and TV history well done German TV and Italian Tv was covered, lots of interesting stuff was sold. The dinner and social was good and someone took a pix of all Audio Karma attendees and it was most of the room. A real good time.
Chuck

My version. . . I thought I would jump in on the band wagon. . .

Some of the TVs being sold at Early TV convention.
More pictures when I get home.

What flavor is the set with the silver CRT protector thing? Interesting shape to the top of the cabinet.

Anthony

Anthony, I beleve that is the 16" version of the RCA 2T51, maybe a 6T51?

Like this one but larger:

I went away with the Zenith next to it and the Admiral across from the Zenith. Unfortunately you can't see with the 45 player in the way, but the Admiral has an AM radio (sliderule dial) between the knobs. Pretty unusual. Also got a 1953 Crosley with UHF center knob.

It was an international flavor this year, with presentations on television history from around the globe:

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Gerhard Bauer spoke about a 441 line mechanical scanner and early magnetic tape sound recording in German Television (and in the process, singlehandedly destroyed the myth of the humorless German!)

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Alex Magoun spoke on RCA's Transfer of Television Technology to the Soviet Union (destroying the myth of the humorless PhD / librarian.)

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And John Trenouth brought a bit of British humor (sorry, I meant "humour") to middle America in "Alexandra Palace and the birth of BBC Television"

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Here's a shot of David Carlstrom, who's presentation was "Dot Sequential Color"

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Robert Lozier treated the crowd to a "History of Television Development in Italy"

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Here's Dave Johnsons awesome display of camera tubes.

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And Peter Yanczer demonstrated scanning disc and mirror screw sets.

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It was hard to get a good shot of the mirror screw image with a digital camera or a video camera. Maybe someone got a better one? Seeing this in person was a thrilling experience.

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Peter Fasciano talked about 100 Years of Test Patterns and China Dolls and the amazing restoration work he performs to bring the old test patterns back to their original glory.

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And Darryl Hock gave the group an update on the ongoing evolution of his "NTSC-to-Darn-Near-Everything" standards converter.

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Our host, Steve McVoy at the controls of the audiovisual playback command center.

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Jerome Halphen and David Winter were contenders for the long distance award this year, traveling to Hilliard, Ohio from Paris, France.

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Who needs to spend money on a health club membership when you can volunteer at a television auction?

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And just unloading the trailer can be a lengthy adventure: quite a few of this seller's sets were gone before I took this picture.

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And in an apparent fit of narcissism, here's a picture of me in front of the Andrea I brought to the museum last year. Once Steve brushed off all the spider webs, polished it up a little, and cleaned out what I'm sure must have been a shop-vac full of mouse fluff inside, it doesn't look half bad!

I didn't get to take a shot of the AudioKarma Class of '05 group photo, can't wait till a copy gets posted here!

These are low res copies of some of the photos I took. I'll post full res copies at www.njarc.org soon.

Don't forget that copies of the last year's Convention proceedings are available on DVD from the museum (http://www.earlytelevision.org). I'll have the 2005 DVD ready as soon as I get a round tuit.

It took two shots to get everyone in attendance. I had the camera set to the wrong shutter speed and I did have to lighten it up a little.

Here are two of my three scores. Left is an RCA and right is a Stewart-Warner.

Did you know that there is a very rare radio controlled option that Stewart Warner sold......it would display the speed of your car right on the CRT so you could check if your kids were hot rodding your car.




Can I interest you in several bridges? :lmao:

Anthony

Here are two of my three scores. Left is an RCA and right is a Stewart-Warner.
And on top is the bag with my lunch in it. Dave, your TV made an excellent (if not very portable) camera platform.

Couple other group pictures

It took two shots to get everyone in attendance. I had the camera set to the wrong shutter speed and I did have to lighten it up a little.

Here's a kinda "quick-and-dirty" stitch. Anybody got any better copies? I ain't no Pete Fasciano, but I'll be glad to give it a whirl!

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Couple other group pictures
I must still be a little giddy after the surviving the weekends festivities, so I went and ran off another quick little mind meld of your pics too:
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--Dave

You won't find me in the pics, we dashed off just a little too quick. Covered a lot of miles this (extended) weekend! Had the pickup loaded for all it was worth, with every bump it just wobbled! But, aside from some very small stuff, its all gone. No need to worry, by the time I got home (thanks to visits with Robt.Cikovic & Veg-o-matic) the truck was nearly packed tight again! Only 2 finds at the convention, the Westinghouse "suitcase" portable that shows up in a couple of the pics, & the same vendors little 12" GE portable-$5 each, why not? The museum is fantastic; just great to get to see & talk with you guys. Sorry I had to run before it was over. It may be a few years before I get back, but I would recommend it to anyone. And lastly, extra special thanks to Steve McVoy who I bet doesn't have time to enjoy these things like he should. Good show!

Wonder who the unfortunate lady was who got stuck putting up with a bunch of crazy old guys w/this strange hobby? Oddly enough, she looks almost happy....-Sandy G.

Wonder who the unfortunate lady was who got stuck putting up with a bunch of crazy old guys w/this strange hobby? Oddly enough, she looks almost happy....-Sandy G.
The Lady on the right is Edna Yanczer, and next to her in the green jacket is husband Peter Yanczer, mechanical TV expert and constructor extraordinaire. As you surmise, Edna is pretty extraordinaire herself in putting up with us "TV nuts". :D

She is very into her husbands work. I had the pleasure of eating dinner with them. She was wearing a Felix the Cat pin on her jacket. They are off to a radio convention to give a talk and show off his television sets. They are just wonderful people.


polaraman

Had to scadaddle too, but I did meet a few AK'ers there., including Polaraman and Bgadow. i got a pile of schematics from him, several of which I needed. Itook several pictures. with my POS digital camera. here they are::::

one, is an attempt at a picture of a mechanical mirror-screw tv setup. in person, the picture was not that bad, a little flicker, but recognizable.


Next, is a nice, restored CTC4, showing the Wizard of OZ. The picture is NOT fuzzy, that is this POS camera's fault.


The next few pictures are of a HUGE setup of camera tubes, ranging fromearly image dissector and Iconoscope tubes, to modern minature vidicons

I wish I coulda attended. I seen you in that pic RCA. Anyway, all of you guys are WAY older than I am. im only 19.

im only 19.
And I'm still only 18 (and have been for decades!)
--Dave

Start young so you can collect more !!!

LOL. I cant right now, because we are moving. mom forclosed the house mortgage, and everytime I bring a TV in, she yells at me. :sigh:

if your 18, and you have been for decades, well, using the add property in math, your not 18 anymore. LOL. :thmbsp:

im just your average computer geek, and electronics engineer/tech. I just recapped a sony handicam, all the SMD caps were bad. It brought back memories of restoring old TVs. and this is only made in 90! horrible technology.


what makes it special, is im into this at a very young age. Well, back in the 50s 60s and 70s im sure about 5/10s of the young people were in that stuff. But now, maybe 1 out of a million young kids are into electronics. most of them are into computers nowadays. Around this area, they are either in jail or dopehead.s

Whats even more sad, is im the only one in teh entire family to persue a collage education. Even so, im not making it very far, because my math skills just plain suck, and im getting hammered with it.

polaraman is back from the trip. I came back with a truck load of goodies. Got a B/W 1958 RCA remote control set and a 17" 1954 RCA set at the convention. I travelled to Long Island NY to get the CTC 15 I bought off ebay. I bought another color roundie Maggie from him. Then it was off to ChuckA's house to pick up the RCA 630TCS he had for sale. Then I get home and there is a HUGE Moto combo on my doorstep. :worried: I put that in the rectangular section. The convention was worth the trip. Next year I think I will arrive on Friday. I drove all night long to get there. That way I will be rested and able to enjoy the convention. Met a lot of nice folks. Nice to put a face with a name.

I also stopped by Moyer's Electronics in Sunbury, Pennsylvania. Got the tour of the stash in the back room. This was only one of their three locations. They have a lot of stuff there. I had a wish list of stuff I wanted. They had some of it at that location. They are going to search the other locations for the rest. They would be in my back yard if I move back home. At least they will now know me when I call them.


polaraman

I'm 39 (and holding)......oh, Rochester!

Anthony

Rich, COOL!!!! Nice haul AND going to Moyers. I deal with the people at the Sunbury location and they seem so nice. Is their location very large? Also was curious... when you bring back all your stuff do you cover with a tarp, or do you just hope for no rain? You always get the BEST stuff. If you're ever in the Omaha area stiop over and I will send a few things home with you!

your still older than me

Perhaps, after all.....I do know the correct use of the word "you're" verus "your" :lmao:

Anthony

Everybody is a critic.

Just when you make good, you get crapped on.

I forgot to mention, you are not funny.

Keep your chin up and stick with it Mbates. School and old TVs. You will find people of all ages in our hobby. I am 35 which isnt real old. Somewhere in the middle. You and I both can say we werent born yet when most of our interests were new. I'm real glad a younger man is learning electronics instead of becoming a software jockey and calling his self a tech. Most of those guys cant even use a VOM and dont know even basic electrical theory. Sad!!

Tube

Mbates, you're taking my joshing to heart....the ":lmao:" should've been an indicator that I was just busting your chops.

But since you feel that way may I humbly suggest that you do make a concerted effort to use the correct form as so many people nowadays seem to have gotten very lazy in this respect and it does tend to make the reader form a lower opinion of the author....not a slam in the least directed at you, just an observation, and one which will help you in the professional arena where something as minor as this may be the thing that gets you the job versus the other guy.

Anthony

Quote: "...make a concerted effort to use the correct form as so many people nowadays seem to have gotten very lazy in this respect and it does tend to make the reader form a lower opinion of the author...."

Good advice, I'd say. Conversely, the ability to use the correct form of something as basic as a pronoun can, in effect, send a 'coded' message to an educated person that says more about you than anyone else in a crowd of applicants applying for the same job.

You're still younger than I.

petededitor

Anthony:

But he may be better-looking than you! :lmao:
P.S. And he's NOT from San Francisco! :lmao: :lmao:
P.P.S. I think you're very funny, I'll have to remember to tell you a story about that.

Pete:

And you're still OLDER than me, so thanks for making me feel a little better!

--Dave

LOL. come on guys. LOL. now, those guys are funny.

Your right tube, most people are software techies now-a-day.

Me, I can do several things, extensive board-level repair of LCD/DLP projectors that I have no service information on, programming visual basic, A+, Inet+ certified, and I can do HVAC, along with fixing car engines - The sad part about this is, I don't have a drivers license, or drive. But I can fix them. trick of all trades you can say.

Driver's licenses are overrated.....cars drive fine without them! Hell, I've been driving since I was 5 years old...my dad put me on his lap and I held the wheel. Real world experience beats out 'book lernin' in my book any day.

How's that go? Jack of all trades, master of none? LOL

Anthony

you know, your really pissing me off. :thumbsdn:

You know what? You need to get your head straight, I'm not insulting you but you're pretty thin skinned and taking everything I say the wrong way.

GET A GRIP, not everything is about you.

I'm done with coddling you, if I were in fact busting your balls you would REALLY know it as I can be more scathing than probably anyone you've ever met. You seem incapable of reading what's written without twisting it around, I nor anyone else can be held responsible for your disjointed thought process.

GROW UP

you know, your really pissing me off. :thumbsdn:


"Lighten up, Francis"!! :banana:

no, I just got a problem with comprehending things the wrong way.

Thats how I have been treated by my parents my entire life.

Also to include: I didn't understand a thing you wrote, considering I never majored in english, nor do I have a very broad vocabulary. Neither can I spell.

How's that go? Jack of all trades, master of none? LOL

Sounded like an insult to me. :banana:

Listen up as I'm not going to bother responding to you any longer as you're just too damn sensitive:

#1) I complimented you on the fact the you have whatever skills you spoke of without any formal education, that you learned them from real world experience

#2) I didn't point out your error when you wrote "trick" of all trades

#3) You consistantly fail to notice that I've followed up my "insults" with either a LOL or some emoticon (cartoon character) which is an indication that I'm just kidding.

As I said before, grow up and learn to understand when people are just fooling around. This is for your own good as any slings and arrows you THINK you've received here is but an iota of what's waiting for you out there in the real world. If you can't get a handle on this NOW you'll end up in a tall tower with a high powered rifle.

Yeah, lighten up!! I am almost TWICE as old as you, and any put-downs you have received, I'm sure I have gotten in SPADES, including from my family. I have been without MY father for 30,years this July, before your MOTHER was out of grade school. I SOMETIMES have a problem taking too many things too seriously, and when someone corrects me on it, and apologizes to me, for a misunderstanding, I take it in stride. I have been called a wimp, fanatic, fag, loser(which I do NOT like, BTW), failure, hopeless case, someone who makes all men in general look bad, and so on.(NOT by people on this site, for the most part, BTW).

SO--- DO try to lighten up a little, and realize that the guys on this site, lOVE to kid around. You will know, when someone is REALLY being mean to you, and then, can act accordingly. After all, as Heathkit said, you do NOT want to end up like Charles Whitman, in a tower!!