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Charlie
01-20-2005, 08:32 PM
Since it seems I am spending several days at the shop, I decided to have a thread just for that.

My little brother came to help me move crap out today. I never thought to count them, but, I bet we moved at least 30-40 consoles out to the side of the road. Most of them were RCA and Zenith sets from the late 60's to early 70's... all of which were in pretty bad shape. Many of them had water damage due to leaks in the roof. Hell... some of them didn't even make it out the door. There were at least 3 consoles that fell completely apart before we got outside! There was one color set I thought was interesting... a Stromberg Carlson 25"... had to be from about 1970.

I found a few more roundies, but they were all in pretty bad shape. I brought home two, but, only for the parts. One was a Sylvania with a 21FKP22. What's the story on this tube? I've seen the number before, but this is the first time I've seen a tube labeled as 21FKP. Is there a difference between this and the FBP? I put the tester on it, but it doesn't light up. The cap is loose, so, I might see if the wires came disconnected. The chassis is a CTC15, and, it has a new flyback. I'll probably yank that part and put the rest on the side of the road.

Also brought home a CTC16XM. The cabinet is about to fall apart. I grabbed this set only because it is a remote set with power tuning. I'll probably pull everything out and save for another RCA cabinet. The CRT is a Colorama, but test weak on the green gun. I'll let it cook for a while on 8 volts and see if it gets better. If not, it may be good enough to use with a brightener if I was in a pinch.

There are two other roundies up there... another CTC15, and a Curtis Mathes. I'll try checking the tubes in those two tomorrow.

There were many 17" B&W portables... most of which looked like they came from the local hospital. Nothing special... those all went to the curb.

I did bring home a Setchell Carlson b&w portable... I'll get a photo of it and put over in the b&w forum.

Found an NOS Thoradson FLY277 flyback... the same one I ordered yesterday morning from Moyer's! If I pull the new flybacks out of those other CTC15's, I have to make a place on the shelf just for those!

Found a few other odds and ends... some NoS 6BK4's... always handy to have. Grabbed a few 6L6 tubes that were in a box. Other little parts here and there... nothing too spetacular.

I go back tomorrow to continue clearing crap out. This is going to take longer than I ever thought!

polaraman
01-20-2005, 08:39 PM
Can you save that Stromberg Carlson? Was it a color console?


polaraman

Eric H
01-20-2005, 08:41 PM
Sounds like your having fun, except for the carrying big heavy consoles part :D

Don't suppose you've seen any of these in there? http://www.vintagetvsets.com/wanted.htm

Charlie
01-20-2005, 08:46 PM
Polara, if you're interested in it, I can save it for you. Seems it was in better condition than many of the others. I'll give it a closer look tomorrow.

Eric, no... sorry no GE. I usually keep an eye open for that set cause I remember you're looking for one. I still have about a half dozen more b&w sets to go thru. I'll be looking.

polaraman
01-20-2005, 08:57 PM
I will be coming to Texas on presidents holiday weekend. I can get it then. I will need measurements to see if it will fit in my Neon. A pic would be nice.


polaraman

Charlie
01-20-2005, 09:03 PM
Sure... no problem. I'll look into it tomorrow and let you know what I find. Seems I recall this set is taller than wide. It may squeeze into a Neon. I'll also see what crt it has. I might be able to find a spare in the shop for you to take with it.

If you come in a Polara, I could load you up even more! :yes: :D :)

Charlie
01-20-2005, 09:37 PM
Polaraman,

I think I might have been mistaken saying that color set was a Stromberg Carlson 25". It may have been a Setchell Carlson 25". If so, are you still interested???

Curiousity got to me, so I went digging thru my Sams index. Come to find out, I found only one listing for a Stromberg Carlson color tv... Model K-1 in Sams 265-13. I pulled it, and it's a 15" set. I was not aware that Stromberg Carlson made a 15 inch color set in the beginning. I don't recall seeing one of these on any of the websites featuring 15 inch color sets. I guess if anyone had one of these, it would be rare as heck!!!

With this in mind, it would seem that the set I found today was a Setchell... not a Stromberg. In any case, I'll be looking at it again tomorrow.

polaraman
01-20-2005, 09:56 PM
Charlie,

I would like it if it was either Stromberg or Setchell. Please give me a report tomorrow. Somebody has that Stromberg-Carlson 15' color set. I think it is ETF.

My 1963 Polara 500 is in hibernation for the winter. I really do not like to drive it much. I am mostly keeping it till I have time to restore it. I do not need some nut making my restoration harder. It is such a rare car and parts are very hard to find. It was my daily driver when I first got it. I have people bugging me to buy it all the time. I am looking at a 1972 polara custom 2 dr hardtop. It has a 400 in it. The interesting option is that it has factory cruise control. My plan for the trip is to get my extra transmission for my truck. My transmission is really slipping bad. It has about 200k miles on it.

polaraman

Charlie
01-20-2005, 10:13 PM
I was looking at the K-1 schematic just now... uses FOUR 5U4's in the power supply!

I'll be checking on that set tomorrow... I'll be happy to hold it for you.

Early Polara's were pretty awesome! I knew an old lady that had one. Not sure of the year, but I remember it had the plain looking rear end with two little square tail lights on each side. All of those Polaras were beasts... no matter which year it was!

Carmine
01-21-2005, 12:05 AM
Charlie... Pictures man, pictures!!! :D

Polaraman...

I am looking at a 1972 polara custom 2 dr hardtop.

This is the type of Polara you need for TV collecting, not some sporty lil' 2dr job! :D

polaraman
01-21-2005, 12:12 AM
Charlie! Pictures!


The 1964 Dodge had the small square tail lights.

Carmine,

Cool wagon!!! 9 pass at that! I have a 63 440 wagon in San Antonio. Maybe I need to dig it out.


polaraman

Charlie
01-21-2005, 12:50 AM
Yeah guys... I know.... and I keep forgetting to bring my camera! I got about halfway there this morning and realized the camera got left behind.

I am going to attempt it again tomorrow. The guy also has an old 10 cent coke machine from the 50's that I am going to try to sell it on ebay for him. It would be good for parts or for restoring. I was looking at some of the ones on ebay earlier. If they are in good order, they bring a few thousand. If he could get 100 for this one, I think he'd be happier than a pig in shit!

There's also a 3 bedroom apartment upstairs where his parents used to live. Man! You should see some of the furniture! There is this really retro looking couch that's just screaming for someone to come save it!

Carmine, that wagon would be the cat's a** on the highway! Fill it up with both tv's, groceries, and still have room for a bunch of kids!

rca2000
01-21-2005, 12:52 AM
Did you happen to see any of the early Magnnavox Solid state BW portables, in there? I have been wanting one for a LONG time.(seems like the chasis number was t-915or u-915, or something similar) They were from 1966-67, IIRC. Motorola also had an old black and white solid state set, from about that tme frame.

Also, Zenith had a portable 19" BW tv, from 1968, that was also solid state. The chassis , I think was 1y22b55, or something like that. See if one of them is in there. And, if there are any 1973-74 Zenith BW portables with the 19 or 17eb12/13 or 19or 17fb12or 13 chasis in them, I lkie those chassis, too.

Along with most ALL of the pre-1964 BW sets, with a tranny in the power supply(of course, I'm sure you already looked for those!)

Charlie
01-21-2005, 01:12 AM
Jack,

Many of the 60's/70's b/w sets were zeniths and rcas, but seemed none of them were worth keeping due to the cosmetics being so bad. I would suspect that some of them had good crts, but, I just wasn't sure which would be worth hauling home. Being that the cabinets were either cracked, broken, or missing the backs, I just left them.

There were a couple of Truetone portables... one was a 21" set like the one I have here at home. I was gonna grab it for a part i needed, but, with all the running back and forth I was doing... I forgot it. Funny thing was... I had put it next to the front door to make sure I'd remember it... and STILL left it behind! Typical for me to do that.

There was one portable b/w set I thought was kinda odd... it was a Curtis Mathes... late-60's maybe... white plastic... may have been 17 or 19 inch. Looked a little like the Zeniths of the time. Was my first time to see a cheap little Curtis Mathes b&w set. I'm almost surprised they made it.

Chad Hauris
01-21-2005, 07:58 AM
Charlie, my 1974 GE tube manual lists 21FKP22. It appears to have a safety glass panel bonded to the faceplate like 21FJP22, but the FKP is a clear glass faceplate, as opposed to the etched faceplate of FJP. Also it indiates FJP has rare-earth red phosphor, but FKP does not.

Don't think I could bear to throw out any tube type sets even if they were junk...I'd be loading up the trailer and hauling them home! I have thrown out a few 80's sets but have salvaged the circuit board, speaker, etc.

Charlie
01-21-2005, 11:37 AM
Chad,

If I had a good place to store the junk sets so they wouldn't be in the way, I'd probably save them. My problem is that I just barely have enough room here to store the good ones!

I had considered bringing them up to my camp in the woods. I could possibly squeeze a few in the garage there, but I am trying to avoid cluttering up my camp with tv's like i have my house!

Charlie
01-21-2005, 11:48 AM
Here is an example of one of the 'junk' sets I brought home. This is the ctc-16 with remote control. Not pretty... is it?! :no:

I hope to find another cabinet to put this chassis in.

polaraman
01-21-2005, 06:58 PM
Charlie,

I have a metal cabinet in pretty good shape for that CTC 16. It is done up in fake blonde wood. I do not have the legs for it though. I will take pictures of it tomorrow.

polaraman

Charlie
01-21-2005, 07:09 PM
The color set turned out to be a Setchell Carlson. The cabinet has issues on one side, but, if your handy with wood, I think you'll be able to put a new piece of veneer on it. The top is a little bad on that side as well. It will be worth the work because this is a very interesting set with a very unique chassis.

Here are the photos of the outside. All of the controls are in a pull down door. That's kinda neat. At the bottom, you'll notice an opening. There is supposed to be a wooden panel there to hide the convergence controls at the front bottom. I looked around for the panel, but could not find it. Sorry. Could probably make one really easy.

Charlie
01-21-2005, 07:12 PM
here is the control door open

Charlie
01-21-2005, 07:14 PM
shot from the other side... wood is better here

Charlie
01-21-2005, 07:22 PM
Now for the interesting part. This is a modular tube chassis! Check out all the different sections. It appears that you remove a few screws from each section and that section comes out! Way cool!

The model of this is marked CL83. I found a 3CL83 listed in Sams 913-1. I dont have that one, so, you'll need to find one. It uses the 25axp22 tube, but was kinda weak on the red gun. I dug thru and found a loose crt that tested excellent, so, I brought is home also and you can take it with you when you pick up the set.

The chassis in this set really makes this unique! I think you'll enjoy restoring this.

Charlie
01-21-2005, 07:25 PM
here is a different angle.

Charlie
01-21-2005, 07:35 PM
Here's a shot of the place from the front.

Charlie
01-21-2005, 07:38 PM
some of the inside...

Charlie
01-21-2005, 07:40 PM
more...

Charlie
01-21-2005, 07:42 PM
and more. As you can see, this place was a real grave yard. Had to go thru a lot of stuff to find the better pieces.

bgadow
01-21-2005, 09:09 PM
That Setchell-talk about a horse of a different color! Sure was designed with the serviceman in mind. Lots of good selling points but I guess the competition was just too much for them? That would have to have been one of their last sets. When I read you saying it was a tube modular chassis I expected this to be like some Motorola's and others, which had printed circuit modules with tubes on them. But man, this is different! And the chassis really looks clean! Well worth saving!

In the first inside pic, that roundie is the same as my -15. Only other one I've seen. You really found something when you found this place. Could there be many such stashes left out there? I've really got to track down the repairman in the next town, who has a building the same size as this one. The one time I was in there (just in the doorway) the place was just a wall of tv's. I've always figured they were all later model, but who knows? The guy is just so hard to get a hold of, he does shift work at (believe it or not) a tampon factory! (no punchline provided) Seeing stuff like this really gets me to daydreaming about what I might find!

Eric H
01-21-2005, 09:18 PM
Charlie, your Setchell portable will have the same "Unitized" modular construction.

Looks like that chassis is Aluminum?

Charlie
01-21-2005, 09:18 PM
That CTC15 you're spotting there is a remote set. Was a really nice set at some time in the past... but not today. Legs breaking off, cabinet falling apart, crt is toast. It does have a new flyback, though. I plan to pull the chassis and bring home.

Yes, that SC set sure is neat. It's a shame about the side of the cabinet, but, it's not so bad that it can't be fixed. That chassis is awesome! I will look at it closer in a day or two. I'm glad Polaraman wanted it... if it wasn't for that, I would have never looked inside it... much less save it from the trash man!

peverett
01-21-2005, 10:08 PM
This reminds me of the TV shop that I cleaned out in Athens, Texas. The only difference is that probably had more stuff in it than this one. I used to have some pictures. If I find them, I will scan them in.

rca2000
01-21-2005, 11:00 PM
Are any of those sets sitting outside the old Roundie Zeniths, (pre uhf), with intact chassis?

Like the 29jc20 or 27kc20, for example?

Charlie
01-21-2005, 11:07 PM
No, they're all square sets except for one ctc15 that's toast. There are only 2 roundies left inside... a 15 and a Curtis Mathes. They're both in bad shape, but i will be saving the 15 chassis.

polaraman
01-21-2005, 11:50 PM
Charlie,

Here is that cabinet for the CTC 16. I think that is a tuner that goes with it. It is a lot better than the one you have. I know it is plain jane but it is solid. I can bring it when I pick up the Setchell Carlson.

polaraman

polaraman
01-21-2005, 11:55 PM
Charlie,

It has a few nicks here and there. One stain on the top. A well placed radio would cure that. Let me know if you want it.

Are any of those rectangular sets a CTC 38/39? I need some parts to put mine back together.

Any Montgomery Wards Airline rectangular color sets?

polaraman

rca2000
01-22-2005, 03:47 AM
Is that a pair of old Jensen speakers behind that set, in those big cabinets? If so, i bet someone here would like to have them!

polaraman
01-22-2005, 07:34 AM
RCA 2000,

I got those 2 weeks ago at an antique show. Paid $20 for the pair. The one on the left has a Jensen Alnico 5 speaker. The right is a Altec Lansing 603. I do not know what one is the correct speaker.

polaraman

Telecolor 3007
01-22-2005, 08:35 AM
Good job, Charlie. People like us will save the history.
I wish I had more money and wish to move from that Communist matchbox that I'm living in.

Sandy G
01-22-2005, 08:41 AM
Awww, man !! Diggin' around in that junk hole would about be like HEAVEN to me... Did I ever mention that I'm a packrat ? Of course, nobody else here is a packrat, so I don't expect youse guys to understand....<grin>-Sandy G.

jstout66
01-22-2005, 08:47 AM
Hey Sandy G!! I'm a packrat as well..... LOL I'm also in a small 1 bedroom apartment. When I have people over they say it reminds them of being in an antiques mall booth. I don't know if that's a "good thing" or not!!!

Charlie
01-22-2005, 11:54 PM
Brought home some good stuff today. There was a cute little RCA set that I listed in the b&w section.

But even better.... brought home tons of knobs still on the cards! I think I had 4 milkcrates of NOS knobs, and two smaller boxes of loose knobs. It seems they're from the late 40's thru early 60's. I went thru them briefly and it looks like they're mainly channel selectors and fine tuners. I sorted thru some of them and filled one milk crate with only RCA knobs. There are many RCA channel selectors similar in style to CTC7 thru 11 sets.

It will probably be at least a week before I get around to sorting them out. I think I will try boxing them by tv brand. Looks like they are mainly RCA, GE, Motorola, Crosley, Westinghouse, Admiral, and Philco. I do not recall seeing many Zenith knobs. Once I get some kind of list going, I'll let you guys know in case there's something in there ya'll can use. I'm sure there will be. At that time, I'll probably put a thread in the TV Partswap forum.

Many of the knobs on cards are quite dirty, and many with mildew. They should clean up well. Looks like those cards sat in that box for many many years before I found them.

Telecolor 3007
01-23-2005, 10:58 AM
That "Setchell Carlson" is an all tube color tv or an hybrid one? The picture tube gots "delta" or "in line" shadow mask? Uh, those "delta" picture tubes are a bigtrouble maker. :dammit:

Charlie
01-23-2005, 11:30 AM
Other than the UHF tuner, this set is all tube. Looks like all the tubes in there are pretty common to what you'd find in RCA or Zenith. It appears that most of the tubes are still the original Setchell's.

Don't know much bout the CRT other than it's a 25AXP22 and the red gun's a little weak. I grabbed a spare CRT for it that tested like new.

An inspection tag inside the cabinet is dated Jan. 25, 1967.

David Roper
02-11-2005, 02:17 PM
Somebody has that Stromberg-Carlson 15' color set. I think it is ETF.



The ETF doesn't have one. In fact their website has no reference to the K-1 whatsoever, but that doesn't necessarily mean there's none left. I found this brochure at TV history: http://www.tvhistory.tv/1955-Stromberg-Carlson-K1-Color.JPG I get the impression it was not among the first sets offered; more like by the time S-C introduced their 15" set, RCA, Motorola etc were already offering 21" sets.

Charlie
02-18-2005, 11:24 PM
Today, I had a day spent with Polaraman. He made a trip over here to pick up the Setchel Carlson color set i saved for him. We paid a visit to a local friend and bought a truck load of Sams that he and I split up. Then, we made a run to the tv shop.

I showed him thru the attic of the old shop, and then we went rummaging thru the old warehouse across the street. It was great to have another collector come along. Having an extra pair of eyes turned out great for the both of us. He spotted many items that I had missed in the piles and on the shelves. He was like a kid in a candy store! By the time it got dark, we had his old Dodge completely loaded with stuff for the both of us! We nearly had to carry some stuff in the cab with us.

After getting back to my house and splitting the Sams between the two of us, we were able to get some bigger stuff from my garage into his truck. He's back on the highway again to make some more stops around Texas, then will be headed back to Georgia. He should be home by Monday with a full load and a very wide variety of items from here, the tv shop, and his other stops along the way.

I'm not going to tell what his list of items includes... I'll save that for him to do in a few days. Trust me though... he's gonna have plenty to keep himself busy with for a good while!!!

Rich, it was a pleasure having you here! Glad we were able to find you enough to make the long trip worth it!

The photo below is him and his faithful Dodge just before he left here. You can't see all of his goodies... much of the load is behind the two consoles and some even in the cab. At least he still has plenty of room for other goodies he'll be picking up in the next couple of days.

polaraman
02-21-2005, 07:36 PM
I made it home. :banana: The truck is packed with a load of Tv goodies. :D I had to leave a few things at my garage in San Antonio. The trip was around 2,500 miles. :cry:

Had a great day with Charlie. Wished I had more time. The truck is just loaded with my stuff in the picture. We really picked up some good stuff. The tires on the beast were almost flat from the weight. :worried: Missed the huge pile in the front of the shop. It was hauled off. :cry: We can't win them all.

I will post pictures tomorrow. :naughty:


polaraman

mbates14
02-21-2005, 09:26 PM
hehehe. good score!! just give me a holla if anything like that happens around here in cincinatti.

polaraman
02-22-2005, 06:06 PM
This is polaraman's truck at the end of the trip. Six cabinets of SAMS, three console and four color portable Tv sets. :D Not all of this came from the TV shop. I could have filled my truck though! The set with the back facing the picture is the modular rectangular Setchell Carlson color set. That is also now in my collection. The gold and white set w/o a back is a CTC 22 parts set. I will now be able to keep mine going for a long time.


polaraman

polaraman
02-22-2005, 06:08 PM
Zenith color roundie I got from Charlie. Nice set!

polaraman
02-22-2005, 06:39 PM
The 29JC20Q rode on the back for the trip home!


polaraman

polaraman
02-22-2005, 06:48 PM
I know the sets are rectangular but I got them at the TV shop. The set on top is a Truetone tube color portable. I got two of those with the intention of making one good set. The bottom is an Olympic CT 911 tube color portable. I really thought it was unusual set. It was face down in muck when I rescued it. The Olympic does show a picture but it does need work. I will post in the rectangular section when I begin working on it. The one Truetone has a poor picture also.

polaraman

mbates14
02-22-2005, 07:28 PM
niiiice. we want to see pictures when you get them a goin!

Charlie
02-22-2005, 08:27 PM
Rich...

Wow! I'm surprised you've already put the juice to those portables. You haven't hardly had enough time to get the muck off! :D Yeah guys... he wasn't joking... it was face down in the muck! :yikes:

Did you have a chance to test the crt's on the smaller sets?

That same day, I also brought home a few items. (We really had that truck loaded) Got a Motorola b/w set with a busted base. The main reason for getting this set was to pull the 21CBP4 out of it (provided it's good). I got a few small various parts. Also, I got a bunch of Sams. Basically, Rich and I bought these Sam's from a friend in Beaumont and then split them up between the two of us.

ATTN: PEVERETT I think this moto has the knobs you are looking for.

Charlie
02-22-2005, 08:32 PM
I got this table top Moto from the shop a few days before Rich got here. CRT is dead. It's pretty clean, so, if the toob in the previous set is good, it will go in this set.

Sorry for the lousy pics... still using the old camera with focus issues. :worried:

Sandy G
02-22-2005, 08:42 PM
This is the time of year to be hunting old TVs-Who was it here that loaded an old radio in his van, & nearly wrecked when the 756,943 waspers came out to see what the hell was happening to their home & why was it moving?!? If anyone wants it, there is a Hornet's Nest hanging over the road at our farm that has to be the biggest one I've ever seen. Must be 3- 4' long, & at least that big around.-Sandy G.

nasadowsk
02-22-2005, 09:55 PM
That one of them Mopar race to live live to race shirts with the squiggly drawn maltese cross on the back? the mopar kiddies aroun d here all haven 'em, can't seem to find them online :(

Oh yeah, what's with that chassis with the early style RCA HV box on it?

Charlie
02-22-2005, 10:09 PM
In the back of the truck? oh yeah forgot all about those. Rich spotted three CTC11 chassis up on a top shelf. IIRC, two of them had missing power transformers... maybe a flyback was missing on another. Rich took those home for parts to use with his 11.

He also spotted a couple of 16 chassis in a pile. Didn't really have room in the truck for them. I will be going back tomorrow, so, I'll grab 'em.

Also gonna try to get a nice 1950's Philco b/w console. I saw it had a brightener. I'll have to dig around to find another crt for it. Where I'm gonna put it... i have no idea.

polaraman
02-22-2005, 10:42 PM
NASADOWSK,

The shirt can be had at the Mopar Collectors Guide magazine web page. Free shirt with a one year susbcription.

I am fooling with the Olympic right now. Had to find a Phillips screwdriver!


polaraman

Charlie
02-22-2005, 10:45 PM
I am fooling with the Olympic right now. Had to find a Phillips screwdriver!

polaraman
If your work area is as bad as mine, finding what you need to fix the set could take longer than fixing it! :yes:

mbates14
02-23-2005, 12:01 AM
HA! you should see this place. RCA2000 can vouch for that. LOL :yes:

polaraman
02-23-2005, 12:02 AM
Charlie,

Organization skills are lacking here also.


All the tubes in the Olympic are good. Only had to replace A 6AQ5 and a tuner tube. Too late to attempt to power it up. The CRT is perfect!

polaraman

Charlie
02-23-2005, 02:12 AM
Guys,

One of the items I brought home during our adventure the other day is a tiny little crt. It's a 902A. As you can see, it's pretty small. Only about 7 inches long, and the screen is roughly 1 3/4 inches in diameter. Did these have a specific use? Or can this be used as a test crt? I couldn't find any info on this number in my tube book, so, I don't know what voltage the heaters run on. Suggestions?

Eric H
02-23-2005, 02:31 AM
I'm so darn jealous. :yes:

You guys are just having too much fun rooting through that old shop, wish I could be there.

RetroHacker
02-23-2005, 07:16 AM
Yeah - I agree with Eric - I wish I could be there too. Nice scores!

Charlie - that has to be the most adorable little CRT I've ever seen! I have no idea what it could have been used for though, maybe it had some application as a camera viewfinder, or possibly some sort of test equipment? Could be a sample too, or some sort of promotional thing, but somehow I doubt it. I know I have seen pictures of CRT's made out of coke bottles though - from what I've read the coke bottle CRT's were made as curiosities for tours at picture tube plants and the like.

Yeah, you guys are having too much fun. Way too much fun. I wish there was some fun like that in my neck of the woods. Some people have all the luck - I'm still hunting the elusive color roundie. Sssh! Be vewy vewy qwuiet - I'm hunting wowndies. :D

Good luck on your restorations guys!

-Ian

Chad Hauris
02-23-2005, 07:17 AM
Looks like an electrostatic crt for a little oscilloscope....fil is probably 6.3 volts but have not double checked it. You can hook up a filament transformer to a variac and boost the voltage slowly from zero and note how the glow appears as you monitor the voltage.

veg-o-matic
02-23-2005, 09:19 AM
Sssh! Be vewy vewy qwuiet - I'm hunting wowndies.

:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

Sandy G
02-23-2005, 09:31 AM
My CRT book sez its a 902, introduced in 1938,was 1st used in the RCA Model 151-2 oscilloscope. National Union also made 'em for the Navy during WW2. Doesn't have any info on voltages, except it would work down to 400 volts. You may have an oldie but a goodie...-Sandy G.

Tim
02-23-2005, 01:08 PM
According to my RCA manual the 902-A is indeed a 6.3v 600ma O'Scope CRT with P1 phosphor. 2nd Anode can be 400v to 600v.

heathkit tv
02-23-2005, 02:20 PM
There was (is?) someone selling a similar small tube on ePay.....except his had numbers painted on the face like a clock and there was a single clock hand that apparently could be set by hand. He didn't know what the application was, most strange! I wonder if it was either used in a lab or perhaps radar setup. Anyone recall that auction?

Anthony

andy
02-23-2005, 02:24 PM
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Charlie
02-23-2005, 06:38 PM
Thanks for the info guys. Sounds like this tube has limited uses. I can either get an old oscilloscope for it (yeah right), or I can put it on a shelf for something interesting to look at. It seems that I'll be doing the latter of the two.

I did find a couple of sites that sell these on the web. Looks like they go for about 50 bucks. Probably cheaper on ebay. Oh well. I'm just gonna use it for looks. :)

David Roper
02-23-2005, 06:54 PM
Some 902A screen caps here:
http://www.tvontheporch.com/

kc8adu
02-23-2005, 07:03 PM
speaking of crt's the 9" tube you sent me arrived safely.
havnt gotten around to testing it but the getter is silver.
you still havent told me what i owe you.

Charlie
02-23-2005, 07:12 PM
speaking of crt's the 9" tube you sent me arrived safely.
havnt gotten around to testing it but the getter is silver.
you still havent told me what i owe you.

I forgot about that little tube. Shipping was 15 bucks. Hope it works out good for you. I'm glad you had a use for it. No sense in letting NOS crt's going to waste! :)

nasadowsk
02-24-2005, 06:19 PM
"As you can see, it's pretty small. Only about 7 inches long, and the screen is roughly 1 3/4 inches in diameter."

Hmmm...

7" long and 1 3/4" is 'small'? ;) Someone's bragging!!!!
:yippy:
:yippy:
:yippy:

kc8adu
02-24-2005, 06:34 PM
shoot me a pm with your paypal address if you use it.
or where to send other forms of payment.

Charlie
02-24-2005, 06:44 PM
"As you can see, it's pretty small. Only about 7 inches long, and the screen is roughly 1 3/4 inches in diameter."

Hmmm...

7" long and 1 3/4" is 'small'? ;) Someone's bragging!!!!


Really? I thought that was about average! :D :lmao:

bgadow
02-24-2005, 10:57 PM
I have a Motorola like that table model, Charlie. There has got to be some trick to pulling the chassis-all I could figure to do was to take the cabinet completely apart. Once I got it recapped it worked great.

daro
10-10-2005, 10:27 PM
Guys,

One of the items I brought home during our adventure the other day is a tiny little crt. It's a 902A. As you can see, it's pretty small. Only about 7 inches long, and the screen is roughly 1 3/4 inches in diameter. Did these have a specific use? Or can this be used as a test crt? I couldn't find any info on this number in my tube book, so, I don't know what voltage the heaters run on. Suggestions?

This was a CRT that RCA brought out in the late 30's for use with CRO's & TV experaments, I remember seeing an ad for them in an old QST printed in late 1938, These crts came with either green P1 or white P4 phosphours & they were electrostatic deflection as well.

Jeffhs
10-11-2005, 05:54 PM
here is the control door open

I wonder if that's where RCA got the idea for the tilt-out control panels on its color consoles of (I'm guessing) the '70s.

BTW, to respond to an earlier comment made here regarding SC color TV, I honestly don't believe Stromberg-Carlson made color sets (the company may have gone out of business before color really caught on) and if they did, the sets may not have sold very well. The last b&w SC console I remember seeing belonged to my aunt, who bought it in the '50s. The set had a white cabinet with doors (and Chinese accent pieces on the door pulls, IIRC) to hide the CRT.

Steve McVoy
10-11-2005, 06:21 PM
Stromberg made a model 102CM, using a 21AXP22 and a RCA CTC4 chassis in their own cabinet. They may have made later sets.

old_tv_nut
10-15-2005, 11:36 PM
Did RCAs have tilt-out controls on some models? I have several ads for Admirals with that feature.

heathkit tv
10-16-2005, 12:00 AM
I know that some Sears sets used this, and I believe Magnavox---dunno about RCA

andy
10-16-2005, 12:14 AM
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Chad Hauris
10-16-2005, 08:35 AM
There are also some RCA models which have a very long narrow tilt out control panel with all the knobs in a row, plus there are some which have slide controls in them. These tilt-out control panels only seem to be used from 1969-1974.
Some of these sets have a latch on the panel under the handle maybe to help prevent little kids from messing with the controls.

Steve D.
10-17-2005, 02:09 PM
[QUOTE=Charlie]Polaraman,


Curiousity got to me, so I went digging thru my Sams index. Come to find out, I found only one listing for a Stromberg Carlson color tv... Model K-1 in Sams 265-13. I pulled it, and it's a 15" set. I was not aware that Stromberg Carlson made a 15 inch color set in the beginning. I don't recall seeing one of these on any of the websites featuring 15 inch color sets. I guess if anyone had one of these, it would be rare as heck!!!




Here's the Sams folder for the Stromberg-Carlson K-1 15" color set. It was their own design. Notice, in the 2nd pix, the separate lower chassis with 4 5U4G low voltage rect. Set had a total of 44 tubes including 2 6CD6G Horz outputs. 15GP22 picture tube.

Address:http://community-2.webtv.net/StevesCT-100/doc/

-Steve D.

frenchy
10-17-2005, 05:39 PM
Don't remember ever seeing a control called 'horiz lock' on any of my sets. There are already horiz hold, freq., lin., size, drive and centering controls there so what does 'lock' do?