View Full Version : Happy 4th of July! CTC-16XL!


Yamamaya42
06-18-2022, 12:48 PM
http://suzaku.live-evil.org/0618221239b.jpg

:D

old_tv_nut
06-18-2022, 01:24 PM
Nice!

etype2
06-18-2022, 04:56 PM
https://visions4netjournal.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/C321426D-018F-4E68-8780-9B0DE680CE66.jpeg

Looking good. My first color set purchased new in 1966. Very similar.

Popester
06-20-2022, 01:52 PM
It’s a tad early, but it’s a nice picture.

Yamamaya42
06-21-2022, 07:18 AM
It’s a tad early, but it’s a nice picture.

Not really! :D

Have already been seeing Independence Day themed advertisements on the main networks for some time now! :P

And I'm sure that the Halloween ones will start mid Aug!

Electronic M
06-21-2022, 11:08 AM
It'd kinda be funny if someone worked out the forward march of companies rolling out holiday themed stuff and extrapolated what year we will start celebrating Christmas exactly a year early. :D :tongue:

Yamamaya42
06-21-2022, 11:23 AM
It'd kinda be funny if someone worked out the forward march of companies rolling out holiday themed stuff and extrapolated what year we will start celebrating Christmas exactly a year early. :D :tongue:

Christmas stuff will be in stores and the commercials on TV at the stroke of midnight on 10/31 as always! :D

zenith2134
06-21-2022, 11:56 AM
That set looks fantastic.
Nice to see these things being preserved. From a BETTER TIME!

Electronic M
06-21-2022, 12:37 PM
Christmas stuff will be in stores and the commercials on TV at the stroke of midnight on 10/31 as always! :D

Right at the end of the movie Santa VS Satan. :D

old_tv_nut
07-02-2022, 03:29 PM
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52001028193_424912a195_c.jpg

init4fun
07-02-2022, 07:01 PM
Very nice ! Thank You Old TV Nut, and Happy 4th to you too :thmbsp:

zenith2134
07-03-2022, 11:23 AM
Happy Independence Day Weekend to everyone!
Have fun and be healthy.
God Bless the USA

old_tv_nut
07-01-2023, 09:37 PM
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52953601467_426572f7d3_c.jpg

nasadowsk
07-02-2023, 05:23 AM
Out of curiosity, what was the difference between the CTC-16 and the CTC-16XL? I’ve heard both are basically the best of the roundies made by RCA, but are the two chassis that different?

damen
07-02-2023, 11:40 AM
I know they used different flybacks, same connections, just different construction. Also, the "X" versions used a 6JC6 for the 3rd If and burst amp tubes in place of the 6EH7 and 6EW6 in the earlier chassis.

dieseljeep
07-03-2023, 09:40 AM
I know they used different flybacks, same connections, just different construction. Also, the "X" versions used a 6JC6 for the 3rd If and burst amp tubes in place of the 6EH7 and 6EW6 in the earlier chassis.
You're thinking about the difference between the 16E and the 16X. It seems that the 16E came out in early 1965 and the 16X came out in late 1965, as a '66 model.

Yamamaya42
07-03-2023, 12:49 PM
also, the 16x had the 21FJP22A vs the 21FJP22, being that the A had truer colors.

http://suzaku.live-evil.org/0703231228b.jpg
http://suzaku.live-evil.org/0703231227c.jpg
http://suzaku.live-evil.org/0703231227.jpg

:tears:

still fighting with a crappy camera and lighting :(

nasadowsk
07-04-2023, 08:32 PM
Speaking of the XL, anyone know a good sub for the inrush themistor (R208 on the Sams, 120 ohm cold), and the VDR for degauss (R209)?

Also, my picture is somewhat dim and has smear in the luminance. The former makes me think blanker (tried swapping tubes, haven’t measured horz current yet), but wow, the 1V2 for focus glows pretty bright (!).

The latter - bad coil, cap, or delay line? The smear just… happened one day.

dieseljeep
07-05-2023, 07:52 AM
Speaking of the XL, anyone know a good sub for the inrush themistor (R208 on the Sams, 120 ohm cold), and the VDR for degauss (R209)?

Also, my picture is somewhat dim and has smear in the luminance. The former makes me think blanker (tried swapping tubes, haven’t measured horz current yet), but wow, the 1V2 for focus glows pretty bright (!).

The latter - bad coil, cap, or delay line? The smear just… happened one day.
The CTC16X used a 2AV2.
A CTC16E I worked on had a 1V2, where the dropping resistor was bad. I jumped the resistor and installed a 2AV2. Noted the change on the TLD. :scratch2:

dieseljeep
07-05-2023, 07:54 AM
also, the 16x had the 21FJP22A vs the 21FJP22, being that the A had truer colors.

http://suzaku.live-evil.org/0703231228b.jpg
http://suzaku.live-evil.org/0703231227c.jpg
http://suzaku.live-evil.org/0703231227.jpg

:tears:

still fighting with a crappy camera and lighting :(
The "X" model had a rare-earth 21FJP22!

nasadowsk
07-06-2023, 07:22 AM
Heh, yeah a 1V2 in there would glow. The tube I pulled was a 2AV2…

Was the 16XL the first RCA to use that tube?

dieseljeep
07-06-2023, 08:47 AM
Heh, yeah a 1V2 in there would glow. The tube I pulled was a 2AV2…

Was the 16XL the first RCA to use that tube?
The 16X, 17X and the newer chassis used them. Around the same time the other firms, that used a tube focus rectifier started to use them! It saved a dropping resistor! :yes:

nasadowsk
07-06-2023, 11:18 AM
I always found it weird the 15 used a solid state focus rect, but they went back to tubes again. Cost? Reliability?

Yamamaya42
07-06-2023, 11:29 AM
Speaking of the XL, anyone know a good sub for the inrush themistor (R208 on the Sams, 120 ohm cold), and the VDR for degauss (R209)?

Also, my picture is somewhat dim and has smear in the luminance. The former makes me think blanker (tried swapping tubes, haven’t measured horz current yet), but wow, the 1V2 for focus glows pretty bright (!).

The latter - bad coil, cap, or delay line? The smear just… happened one day.

You used to be able to find them sold in pairs, " workman" or whatnot, but now, finding any of them intact on sites like evil-bay takes quite a bit of luck, it still may be done if you keep looking.

Yamamaya42
07-06-2023, 01:03 PM
https://www.ebay.com/itm/225470504267?hash=item347f16dd4b:g:n8UAAOSwl2dkCPV E&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAA8Obpgsj0SgWvj6hkxKAwO1t9nOJqr 9c%2Bb4gqVEf%2FEol2JockVF0Sqe8u6hW%2F4PFblfRSWVtX3 I3jNFfJvVeY%2FH8gc7O0L1qjtUaUuItqI5YFvUblFtVxplKWn em5IlCrhtHSv8Zz62%2F5xbWDhvEZn2QTWO2Hfnzi5ekuJEeDH njr5jzUUsqQUY%2FYpYRqWRgCdy9Z6m5KuC8jKwH6%2FY1%2BD uBgoW%2BHwig3B5LoEZcajnhy82TLiKG%2F4HCalzNKGcZo4zD %2BXuPMMrp6EpsCdyqoSz8VZEnf5K2WjEN0IvzsB76xUi5DDDm n8uBJGff2BR3PWA%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR461sMWlYg

example

one for a CTC-20

No reason for it not to work in a ctc-16

Yamamaya42
07-06-2023, 04:04 PM
And BOOM. someone nabbed it already! :o

nasadowsk
07-07-2023, 05:28 AM
Yup :)