The Wild being a thrift store.

This Westinghouse HCK611 had just been dropped off when I arrived, it was on the floor and priced before I left, $37 later it was in the back of my truck.
Some poor Dog is going to sleep on the Couch tonight.

CRT checks excellent as far as I can tell, my testers are bit screwed up but between the two of them I determined it checks like new on emissions and tracking.

Powered up and made a picture even, but the filters are shot and there's a loud hum in the sound.

Great find.

Congratulations on this acquisition. Looks to be in great shape.

Not many of those left....I wonder if that's one of the Westinghouse sets with the rocketship HV cage.

Here are a couple chassis shots. I'm assuming the 5/64 is the date.
The CRT appears original but there are no visible markings, not even on the base. There is a small white tag that says "Vacusealed".

The Wild being a thrift store.

This Westinghouse HCK611 had just been dropped off when I arrived, it was on the floor and priced before I left, $37 later it was in the back of my truck.
Some poor Dog is going to sleep on the Couch tonight.

CRT checks excellent as far as I can tell, my testers are bit screwed up but between the two of them I determined it checks like new on emissions and tracking.

Powered up and made a picture even, but the filters are shot and there's a loud hum in the sound.

I'm surprised you aren't seeing hum bars in the picture as well as hearing hum in the audio, if the filter caps are that bad. I would replace them as soon as possible, as it seems they are on their last legs. Caps in this condition may be close to shorting as well, which could and probably will damage or destroy the power transformer if they don't cause the line fuse to blow first.

However, it sounds to me as if the CRT is in good shape, so if you correct the power supply problems the set should be OK. As I said, if you have severe hum in the sound, the capacitors are in very bad shape and will fail or short eventually. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised the filters are going bad if they are the originals, as the TV was made 58 years ago.

I'm surprised you aren't seeing hum bars in the picture as well as hearing hum in the audio, if the filter caps are that bad. I would replace them as soon as possible, as it seems they are on their last legs. Caps in this condition may be close to shorting as well, which could and probably will damage or destroy the power transformer if they don't cause the line fuse to blow first.

However, it sounds to me as if the CRT is in good shape, so if you correct the power supply problems the set should be OK. As I said, if you have severe hum in the sound, the capacitors are in very bad shape and will fail or short eventually. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised the filters are going bad if they are the originals, as the TV was made 58 years ago.

Dude, you really needed to tell Eric all that "electronics 101" stuff as though you were talking to a newbie TV collector, , really ???? :sigh:

I'm betting the man has a good idea of what it's gonna take to restore that set....... :thmbsp:

Looks like a Magnavox sourced chassis

No visible markings - do you think the CRT is a rebuild?

Looks like a Magnavox sourced chassis

I had the same thought. If that's the case that's interesting to learn...I never heard of Magnavox building sets for others before.

Not many of those left....I wonder if that's one of the Westinghouse sets with the rocketship HV cage.

Does anyone have a pic of the rocketship HV cage?

Dude, you really needed to tell Eric all that "electronics 101" stuff as though you were talking to a newbie TV collector, , really ???? :sigh:

You guys owe me a new phone screen :)

Dude, you really needed to tell Eric all that "electronics 101" stuff as though you were talking to a newbie TV collector, , really ???? :sigh:

I'm betting the man has a good idea of what it's gonna take to restore that set....... :thmbsp:

I don't understand going through all that work when TV has been digital since 2009. There's no way to get a signal into that TV unless the owner lives in some part of the world where the NTSC standard is still being used.

I don't understand going through all that work when TV has been digital since 2009. There's no way to get a signal into that TV unless the owner lives in some part of the world where the NTSC standard is still being used.

:lmao: That's another stupid Jehffs-ism... I will give Jehffs one thing he's less senile than Brandon. He can at least complete 3 real sentences in a row.

Very cool find. We’re those RCA clone chassis or did Westinghouse do their own design and manufacturing? I worked 10 years and are Boulder, CO never saw that brand come in for repairs. Wondering if Westinghouse only sold back East and the mid West. Kind of like Packard Bell was a West coast brand.

I can’t speak for this chassis, but Westinghouse was a powerhouse and RCA poached Zworykin from Westinghouse. Westinghouse manufactured the 15GP22 for their first color set which was under license from RCA and developed a 20 inch rectangular one gun color CRT. Thier first set was not a clone of the CT-100.

Westinghouse developed a “20 inch rectangular one gun color CRT” ??? do you have more information on this jug?

jr

Here is one clipping. I found others but saved this one for my site.

https://visions4netjournal.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/DE83DED4-3C4A-4B57-AE93-21F4362B514D.jpeg

Does anyone have a pic of the rocketship HV cage?

Westinghouse rocketship

Here is one clipping. I found others but saved this one for my site.

https://visions4netjournal.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/DE83DED4-3C4A-4B57-AE93-21F4362B514D.jpeg

Lawrence chromotron?

jr

I think so, or a variant. Has to be a variant. Similar construction, but it got s*** canned.

I don't understand going through all that work when TV has been digital since 2009. There's no way to get a signal into that TV unless the owner lives in some part of the world where the NTSC standard is still being used.

We have converter boxes that they sold by the millions here in the USA before the DTV transition here because many Americans still had perfectly good working Analog TV sets at the time so they had a $40 off coupon program for people in the USA so that we could buy converter boxes for our Analog TVs, you can still find plenty of those converter boxes at the thriftstores for $5, some of them are still in their original boxes yet, never used.

We have converter boxes that they sold by the millions here in the USA before the DTV transition here because many Americans still had perfectly good working Analog TV sets at the time so they had a $40 off coupon program for people in the USA so that we could buy converter boxes for our Analog TVs, you can still find plenty of those converter boxes at the thriftstores for $5, some of them are still in their original boxes yet, never used.

Um, , , you DO realize Carmine's post was a joke, , , , right ? :sigh:

I don't understand going through all that work when TV has been digital since 2009. There's no way to get a signal into that TV unless the owner lives in some part of the world where the NTSC standard is still being used.

I am not sure there is any part of the world in which TV is still being broadcast as NTSC analog; however, I see your point. With flat-screen digital TVs being so plentiful and even cheap these days (until you get into huge TVs with very large screens and newer display technologies such as OLED, et al., many if not most of which are selling for $1000 or more), restoring older NTSC televisions is only a hobby, engaged in by many of us here on VK. Don't forget, the picture quality on a properly adjusted flat-screen HDTV can and will rival that seen on even the best NTSC TV, owing to the much better quality of ATSC DTV signals, and the sheer size of the screens. I have a 32" Insignia flat screen which makes a much better picture than any NTSC set I've ever owned or seen in my life; I would not go back to NTSC, even if I wanted to or could.

Man not even a cataract... that's a pretty nice find!

Um, , , you DO realize Carmine's post was a joke, , , , right ? :sigh:

Are you sure?

He posted the same exact comment in the Radiorama YouTube channel today which featured a video of the restoration of a 1955 Zenith "Bugeye" TV. :scratch2:

Also what part of that comment did you think sounded like a joke? To be honest, I'm a closet comedian and I didn't find anything funny about his comment, I didn't even laugh at it. :no:

See screenshot below.

So THAT’S where they got the idea for the AP1000 containment from !

We have converter boxes that they sold by the millions here in the USA before the DTV transition here because many Americans still had perfectly good working Analog TV sets at the time so they had a $40 off coupon program for people in the USA so that we could buy converter boxes for our Analog TVs, you can still find plenty of those converter boxes at the thriftstores for $5, some of them are still in their original boxes yet, never used.

Jokes aside, I can't remember the last time I actually found something I wanted to watch on OTA broadcast.

I ended up with 7 analog channels I pipe throughout my house over the coax (combined with the attic antenna). Most of the channels are just raspberry pi's shuffling through TV shows I like to watch. It's also nice to use the original tuners and on the TVs and "channel surf" like the old days.

The latest addition has been some some 1960s content like Get Smart, Addams Family and Rocky & Bullwinkle.

Jokes aside, I can't remember the last time I actually found something I wanted to watch on OTA broadcast.

I ended up with 7 analog channels I pipe throughout my house over the coax (combined with the attic antenna). Most of the channels are just raspberry pi's shuffling through TV shows I like to watch. It's also nice to use the original tuners and on the TVs and "channel surf" like the old days.

The latest addition has been some some 1960s content like Get Smart, Addams Family and Rocky & Bullwinkle.

Very clever :thmbsp: I just have one BT modulator on channel 9 that's tied to my A/V system. With the Roku and my FTA satellite setup I get most of what I want to watch.

Does anyone have a pic of the rocketship HV cage?

I have one, a 19" Westy color! This set predates the Apollo 1 cage by 3 years.
I agree that HV cage is just like a '64 Magnavox U450, which is an RCA clone design-wise.

Thats what we called it too. The rocket or Saturn V. I despised those sets.
Just like GE. BIG lots of talent but crappy TV's for the most
part.

73 Zeno:smoke:
LFOD !

Westinghouse rocketship

Agree. Same tag style, same chassis numbering & same cage color as older
Maggy.

If it walks like a duck.....

73 Zeno:smoke:
LFOD !

Looks like a Magnavox sourced chassis

Thats what we called it too. The rocket or Saturn V. I despised those sets.
Just like GE. BIG lots of talent but crappy TV's for the most
part.

73 Zeno:smoke:
LFOD !
IIRC, they had a very cheezy series-string pc main board/"chassis". :yuck:

Yup, and they were very tube hungry. Messy construction too.

IIRC, they had a very cheezy series-string pc main board/"chassis". :yuck:

Yup, and they were very tube hungry. Messy construction too.

Unless this particular TV was a Westinghouse-branded set, with the chassis, etc. made offshore by some fly-by-night electronics firm no one here ever heard of (!), I would be amazed. Westinghouse used to be a well-known American brand of TV and appliances, until this business of rebranding sets began. I was surprised to read in your post that the set's construction was "messy", and the sets ate tubes like crazy. Doesn't sound at all like the Westinghouse of the 1950s-'60s.

The only other thing I can come up with is that these TVs were not made by Westinghouse in the first place; that is, the sets were or may have been manufactured in the US by an unknown (or little-known) electronics firm which simply slapped the Westinghouse name and logo on the cabinets, and thought little or nothing of it (as I mentioned at the beginning of this post). There may have been a lot of this kind of monkey business going on by the 1960s, and it just kept getting worse and worse until it reached the point where no one knew whether a TV was an actual Westinghouse (for example) or an offshore-made piece of junk with a well-known name on the cabinet. I have a can opener I bought when I moved here in 1999, with the White-Westinghouse brand name on the cabinet, but I very, very seriously doubt it was actually made by Westinghouse (the company may have merged with another appliance maker by the late 1990s).

Old_coot88 made a comment that bears out the above, IMHO. If the construction was "cheezy", with the "chassis" being a flimsy PC board, and the company which actually made this TV was simply turning out these sets hand-over-fist, slapping the Westinghouse name and the "circle W" logo on the cabinets without thinking twice, well . . .

Unless this particular TV was a Westinghouse-branded set,...........

Two sets here under discussion First the roundy. It screams clone
built by Maggy. If part numbers are checked I bet most would be
in Maggy format ######-#

Second set is the rocket ship chassis. Rectangle jug, series string,
PCB. Distinct build style. Construction same as the 12' & 19" B&W of that time.
I have never seen any other brand like it at all. Thats out of tens of thousands I have been in. Unlike GE I never seen one rebadged. As far as build quality goes
I stand by that & others in my area agreed. BUT the cabinets were nice.
But a nice cabinet can be a BAD thing to a RTV tech...
Westinghouse had all it took, just like GE to build a world class set bunt didnt.
My brother worked for them in the Nuke division in control rod dept. He
had good words for them.
BTW the chassis number of the roundie is not in Sams either Maggy or W.

73 Zeno:smoke:
LFOD !

Man not even a cataract... that's a pretty nice find!

This is what suprised me. What a nice score.



Jokes aside, I can't remember the last time I actually found something I wanted to watch on OTA broadcast.

I ended up with 7 analog channels I pipe throughout my house over the coax (combined with the attic antenna). Most of the channels are just raspberry pi's shuffling through TV shows I like to watch. It's also nice to use the original tuners and on the TVs and "channel surf" like the old days.

The latest addition has been some some 1960s content like Get Smart, Addams Family and Rocky & Bullwinkle.

I'd love to see how you have the raspberry pi's set up. Do you have any threads about it?

I've been thinking of doing this but with DVD players, but your method seems much more efficient.

I'd love to see how you have the raspberry pi's set up. Do you have any threads about it?

I've been thinking of doing this but with DVD players, but your method seems much more efficient.

I did a few videos on Youtube about it. Not sure what the rules are about posting that sort of stuff, but if you just search my name and raspberry pi it should show up.

If there's interest I can post a thread about it here.

I don't see why you couldn't post a link to your videos here.

Here's a playlist of the videos as it progressed. The end bit of the last video shows basically how it looks today (minus one additionally pi that replaced the security channel).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sBY6B5qMHU&list=PL3efIbuabYe-PVxg19TrS3CCmDdaZTP0F

Man not even a cataract... that's a pretty nice find!

There's a slight one starting at the sides, not real noticeable.

I have one, a 19" Westy color! This set predates the Apollo 1 cage by 3 years.
I agree that HV cage is just like a '64 Magnavox U450, which is an RCA clone design-wise.

It is, in fact, a Magnavox U45 chassis, but Magnavox chassis' were not RCA clones. They may have used similar tube compliments, but much of the circuitry was dramatically different.