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tvdoktor
02-11-2022, 08:47 AM
While working on my Philco 48-700, the .4uf 3500v HV filter capacitor shorted and started smoking. Can I use a film capacitor in its place? Any ideas where to purchase an equivalent would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance

Electronic M
02-11-2022, 01:10 PM
Yes film should work fine. You may need to do series pair of 2KV .82uF.
Mouser doesn't have anything close to .4uF at over 3KV... Digikey might.

Hcompton79
02-11-2022, 07:20 PM
Possibly something like this, all I could find that was in stock:

https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/kemet/C4BSYBX3470ZBMJ/7400087?s=N4IgjCBcpgTAnAZiqAxlAZgQwDYGcBTAGhAHsoBt EWRANltgA4QTYxEwAWCEsR2AAwB2AKwgAuiQAOAFyggAyjIBOA SwB2AcxABfVgM7wUIdJGz5iZSiAEA6EQAIArQDEWN250bO3JO5 yEfd39OIL9PR1dgz0Qwj244-yDJEFl5AFV1VRkAeQwAWQIsPABXZQJdEgBaWGNTFRLLckgqMXE dDqA

All I could find that was close, If the voltage rating is insufficient you may need to special order something.

Yamamaya42
02-11-2022, 09:17 PM
Possibly something like this, all I could find that was in stock:

https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/kemet/C4BSYBX3470ZBMJ/7400087?s=N4IgjCBcpgTAnAZiqAxlAZgQwDYGcBTAGhAHsoBt EWRANltgA4QTYxEwAWCEsR2AAwB2AKwgAuiQAOAFyggAyjIBOA SwB2AcxABfVgM7wUIdJGz5iZSiAEA6EQAIArQDEWN250bO3JO5 yEfd39OIL9PR1dgz0Qwj244-yDJEFl5AFV1VRkAeQwAWQIsPABXZQJdEgBaWGNTFRLLckgqMXE dDqA

All I could find that was close, If the voltage rating is insufficient you may need to special order something.

would a Snubber cap work in such a situation?

nasadowsk
02-12-2022, 10:05 AM
Be aware this set has the extremely dangerous “brute force” high voltage supply. They are known to kill!

Yamamaya42
02-12-2022, 10:17 AM
Be aware this set has the extremely dangerous “brute force” high voltage supply. They are known to kill!

I have never worked on such thing before, so I'm not sure so thus i brought attention to it.

"In modern power electronics, they are commonly found to reduce ringing. A snubber circuit limits or stops (snubs) switching voltage amplitude and its rate of rise, therefore reducing power dissipation."


VS what Electronic M mentioned, using 2 series pair of 2KV .82uF.

bandersentv has done this many times, and would know the most about it.

dtvmcdonald
02-12-2022, 03:06 PM
Another possibility, cheap (but a minor nuicsance to construct).

Replace the chain of resistors from the 0.5 uF cap to ground with
a chain of (mostly) 200 volt 1.3 to 2w Zener diodes, with one different voltage to get the
drop across the focus pot right. Then you can use a bunch of 630 volt caps
at say 0.1 or 0.27 uF across triples of Zeners. Because the voltage is regulated, you
would only need a lower capacitance to filter out the Zener noise.

I've used such Zener chains in a couple of TVs and they work fine. Of course
you have to figure out how to construct them.