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user181
12-10-2021, 07:53 PM
I've heard that VCRs manufactured after year 2000 are not considered repairable, as far as the transport mechanism goes.

What are the reasons and details behind this? Does it have to do with the quality of parts and/or the overall design? Are the mechanisms not designed to be disassembled?

Also, was there a consolidation across the industry to using just one or two mechanisms?

Blast
12-11-2021, 09:50 PM
In the late 80's and 90's I looked at a LOT VCRs for a living. And, a LOT of those got repaired. Many paid for by manufacturer's warranty, most paid by the customer.

In most cases manufacturers had the service data for each model into servicer's hands well before customers brought them in for service. And, parts houses would have the parts available locally. This was how consumer electronics repair had been running for decades.

While I still work on a few things privately I left said big commercial repair biz in 2001. In 2000 and 2001 some manufacturers (Philips, for one, but certainly not limited to them) decided to start exchanging VCRs rather than pay a servicer center to repair them. So, if memory serves, there were no more service manuals sent out, hence no reasons for any easily available parts. That was the "beginning of the end" for me and I was already poised to get into another line of work, so I did.

In 1989 one of the cheapest 2 head VCRs on the market was the RCA model VR250 at about $250 retail. In 2000 other brands and models were down to $49.95, maybe $80 for a HI-FI model. As a servicer, hard costs of running a business dictated that I couldn't spend more than about 15 minutes with something like that knowing I could only charge $20 or $30 at the very most.

I'm sure VCR's made after 2000 can be repaired. But, finding service information and replacement parts (not to mention the cost-effectiveness of it) may likely be the limiting factor.

Brian

Electronic M
12-12-2021, 12:57 AM
They also started making all plastic mechs after Y2K. Some of the higher end ones aren't too bad, but there's also cheap and nasty ones (I think Philips was up there) where if you dropped the mech 1' with a tape inside or ran a bunch of the late 70s VHS tapes that weighed 3-5x what a Y2K tape weighs plastic would break and it would be junk.
From about 05 to 2012 I did a ton of archiving of shows off cable onto VHS and tried to keep 3+ used machines going on a teenagers skimpy budget. Until 2010 2-3 week vacations were common with an average of 1.5 hours of programming a day. After 07 I was between houses in Florida and Wisconsin so I had to double up equipment (and sometimes packed a deck on a long term trip)...I had used decks of all vintages and a number of the plastic fantastic decks died in transit or from use... usually the plastic decks were busted beyond my skills. The metal ones I could usually fix if the electronics or head didn't fail.
By around 2011 I started finding many S-VHS(ET) decks in thrift stores and switched to those because of improved reliability and better picture quality.

ESigma25
12-12-2021, 02:53 PM
At some point a lot of brands started using effectively the same (rather cheap) VHS mechanism, so cheap that they basically weren't financially viable to service.

zeno
12-12-2021, 06:10 PM
In apx 1975 a VCR was way over $1000. We charged $90 labor
even for a real hand cleaning. The VCR's weighed 20 lbs or
more & were extremely well built. Hard to slip & destroy it.

Late VCR's weighed a few pounds & were mostly plastic. Sold for
abt $50-$100. Even with inflation we had to drop the mim labor to
$25. We told customers if its under $35 we fix it, over $35 we junk it.
Most went over to the pile of new Sony VCR's & grabbed one.

Combos were the pits. The first few yrs they were well built. Basicaly
a 19" TV & full VCR in one box. Then the garbage started coming
in from Funai & sold under many brands. The way they were built
made many unrepairable. Real crap that I refused to deal with.
Better to grab a rack & go home......

73 Zeno:smoke:
LFOD !

Jeffhs
12-12-2021, 07:04 PM
I have a Panasonic PV-4022 VCR. The gearing is all plastic, of course, with only one or at most, two belts in the entire mechanism. It works well now, but when it finally quits I will not have it repaired. That's just as well, since I have an LG DVD player; most of the shows I recorded on VHS video tape in the '80s-'90s are now available on DVD (I have perhaps 50+ DVDs to date), so I won't miss the VCR when it finally quits for good.

ARC Tech-109
12-14-2021, 04:06 PM
Like taking in a Bic lighter for repair

Dude111
12-14-2021, 07:38 PM
I love VCRs :)

waltchan
01-18-2022, 12:33 AM
I have a Panasonic PV-4022 VCR. The gearing is all plastic, of course, with only one or at most, two belts in the entire mechanism.

Only one belt (capstan). You're good... :yes: