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CrtsRtubular 04-12-2020, 11:33 AM :thumbsdn:https://i.imgur.com/IcfWxmM.png
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"restored" Like this is ever going to sell. It was worth more untouched.
Tom Albrecht 04-12-2020, 12:20 PM "Restored"
Robert Grant 04-12-2020, 12:27 PM :thumbsdn:https://i.imgur.com/IcfWxmM.png
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"restored" Like this is ever going to sell. It was worth more untouched.
Ask them if they still have the electronics and make them an offer.
Electronic M 04-12-2020, 05:55 PM Ask them if they still have the electronics and make them an offer.
Yeah, that's a CTC5. If it had a good 21AXP22 in it that is a $300-800 CRT depending on where you are and who you ask...
MadMan 04-12-2020, 11:25 PM Because reasons.
truetone36 05-02-2020, 03:26 PM Why? Because some people have an overwhelming supply of stupidly, that's why. I've seen so many rare and valuable sets ruined by the "repurposing" crowd.
bgadow 05-02-2020, 09:03 PM Why? Because we, as collectors, aren't widely known for being Johnny-on-the-spot with wads of cash for old sets. To the layman, they can't tell if this is black/white, color, pre-war, 1970's, who knows. If it were b/w it might have only been worth $20 and that's a stretch in some areas. If they knew somebody would pay $500-800 for it intact, and maybe also give them a cheap b/w for them to gut...
JohnCT 05-03-2020, 08:05 AM Why? Because we, as collectors, aren't widely known for being Johnny-on-the-spot with wads of cash for old sets. To the layman, they can't tell if this is black/white, color, pre-war, 1970's, who knows. If it were b/w it might have only been worth $20 and that's a stretch in some areas. If they knew somebody would pay $500-800 for it intact, and maybe also give them a cheap b/w for them to gut...
LOL, all true, but it's STILL sad to see these abominations..:tears:
That "cat cubby" was a sweet looking example. So sad.
John
sampson159 05-03-2020, 10:32 AM you dont restore something by taking it apart and omit a large part of it.shame that people destroy history like this.the daughter is a moron and the parents are boobs
Josef 05-03-2020, 04:55 PM Why? Because some people have an overwhelming supply of stupidly, that's why. I've seen so many rare and valuable sets ruined by the "repurposing" crowd.
The only thing more terrible than the truth is speaking out the truth :sigh:
timmy 05-03-2020, 05:54 PM A cat bed, really , what a shame , there's no cat worth destroying that set. Who knows it could have worked and like tom said it may have had a good 21axp22. But we will never know. :no:
SpaceAge 05-03-2020, 08:03 PM In this age of the internet and particularly eBay, it amazes me that these types of people wouldn't bother to at least google the model number to figure out if their item has any value. They don't have to care about preserving antiquated technology, the prospect of flipping it for big bucks on eBay should be enough of a motivation. Off topic but relevant, just recently I saw on the local news someone here in Denver found a complete set of blueprints of the world trade center towers in the trash. Apparently one of the lead engineers moved to Denver decades ago and after he died, his daughter was getting rid of his stuff and assumed it was all worthless??? And then the guy who pulled them out of the trashcan sold them for hundreds of thousands of dollars. Moral of the story: lots of people have zero intuition when it comes to the value of old and obscure items.
I do think there are a few steps we can take to help people that do actually bother to try to find info about their TV. When you search a question in Google, the algorithms attempt to pull the relevant information from the top search result and display it. Well, if you search "Are vintage TVs worth anything?", this is the result:
Most sets made after 1950 are not worth much. Consoles, because of their shipping cost and because they take up so much room to display, are worth even less. A typical set from the 50s might sell for $50 or so.
You can imagine people see that and don't do any further reading. They don't know how old their vintage TV is or if its color or black and white, but to them it looks like it's from the 50s so it must be worthless. Google has actually pulled this line from the ETF page about the value of vintage TVs, and this particular line is specifically talking about black and white TVs but you wouldn't know that from Google's result.
https://www.earlytelevision.org/how_much.html
That page has a lot of great information, but only a small bit is displayed on Google. I think it would be a lot better if the top result was something like "The value of vintage TVs varies widely depending on the age, condition, and type of TV." Then people actually click onto the ETF page and figure out what kind of TV they have and how much it's worth, and get a real answer. If we could get my line above added to that ETF page, and then petition with google to make it the top result (you can provide feedback for search results) it might help someone figure out what they have and prevent even just one valuable set from getting wrecked. I would also argue for that ETF page to be updated with pictures. It has links to different kinds of TVs but it would be easier for people to see them all on the same page. Not to mention people have almost no attention span, so they are more inclined to look at pictures than spend the time reading even a little bit of text. Just my two cents.
The lesson for all of us is to be ready to pounce on a TV when you see it come up for sale. That's about all we can do. I'm still a bit irked from several years ago when I missed out on a CTC-9 on craigslist. It was in Fort Collins IIRC which is 3-4 hours round trip from me. The parents were cool with me getting it but wouldn't let me make the trip on a school night. I arranged to pick it up the following weekend but of course they sold it to someone else in the interim. It has never popped up in any TV collector circles that I know of so I assume it ended up as some hipster's Pinterest project. I will soon be done with college, out on my own, and in full control of my life, and this will never be a problem again. :)
old_coot88 05-03-2020, 09:33 PM Surprizing some irreverant soul hasn't posted a clip of when Nancy Kerrigan got whacked on the knee. :eek:
jr_tech 05-03-2020, 11:06 PM It’s a shame that a restorable ctc5 was sacrificed to make a cat bed... With a little creativity and effort, a nice custom home can be designed and built that would better meet the needs of the specific cat, such as this “kitty cave” with built in shelves for favorite toys.
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49853230276_a034723949_w_d.jpg
jr
etype2 05-04-2020, 12:11 AM Thought this might be relevant.
https://visions4netjournal.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/6418560A-D9CA-4EFA-86F3-5D6A028854A0.jpeg
Don’t fret, not another gut job. This is from Colin Maclagan’s collection, Tucson Arizona.
Colin is a collector/restorer of classic television. Colin sent me photos of his restoration project, a 1950’s era Natalie Kalmus Black and white television.
https://visions4netjournal.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/D7FBD976-6579-4270-8019-926F9A8AD0D4.jpeg
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Electronic M 05-04-2020, 10:31 AM Natile Kalmus: "if it wasn't for me you'd be watching that on a color TV" :D
matt.caputo 05-04-2020, 07:17 PM The set this moron ruined looks to be the Lock Haven model. CTC-5 Super chassis. What I noticed is the "color" script is still on the escutcheon after the set was gutted. All the 5s I've ran into so far either have "color" silk screened on the back side of the safety glass or nothing at all. I assume in this case the safety glass is gone, so did RCA also use block letters on some CTC5 models similar to the 7s and 9s?
Josef 05-05-2020, 03:23 AM Ask them if they still have the electronics and make them an offer.
Has anybody already asked because of the whereabouts of the CRT and chassis :scratch2:
bgadow 05-05-2020, 09:45 PM SpaceAge has the right idea, and it should be followed-through. Who will take it upon themselves to make it happen?
MadMan 05-06-2020, 01:21 AM SpaceAge does have the right idea. Another thing that helps, that I do all the time, is when you're posting about something, actually type out the make and model number and all that stuff. If you type Moto instead of Motorola, when somebody searches google for 'Motorola' your post will NOT show up! Matter of fact, it won't even show up in the forum search. Jargon is fine, but it's good practice to actually type it out pertinent information for realzies at least once in the thread or post.
ohohyodafarted 05-07-2020, 09:17 AM "But Why?" I'll tell you why....because they are cat people. Disgusting animals that shit and piss in your house instead of outdoors where it belongs.:thumbsdn:
Our Collies are intelligent and devoted companion animals. And they never shit or piss in our home!
zenithfan1 05-07-2020, 11:01 AM The set this moron ruined looks to be the Lock Haven model. CTC-5 Super chassis. What I noticed is the "color" script is still on the escutcheon after the set was gutted. All the 5s I've ran into so far either have "color" silk screened on the back side of the safety glass or nothing at all. I assume in this case the safety glass is gone, so did RCA also use block letters on some CTC5 models similar to the 7s and 9s?
Yes, they had both styles during the middle to the end of the run.
dieseljeep 05-07-2020, 11:58 AM "But Why?" I'll tell you why....because they are cat people. Disgusting animals that shit and piss in your house instead of outdoors where it belongs.:thumbsdn:
Our Collies are intelligent and devoted companion animals. And they never shit or piss in our home!
That's because someone is home most of the time. Dog lovers that are gone for several hours blame the dog when it messes the house. They can't hold it that long!
Then, there's the dog owners that seldom pick up the dog stools in their yard. The landscaper says, they're not going to cut tenants grass unless it's picked up.
My cats use the litter pan. The cats do their part, mine is to keep it clean!
JohnCT 05-07-2020, 12:38 PM "But Why?" I'll tell you why....because they are cat people. Disgusting animals that shit and piss in your house instead of outdoors where it belongs.:thumbsdn:
Our Collies are intelligent and devoted companion animals. And they never shit or piss in our home!
In a way, I wish there was a way to combine the qualities of dogs and cats.
We both love dogs and my wife wants a dog in the worse way, but we both work. Dogs hate being away from people.
Give a cat some food, water, a clean litter box, and it won't care if it doesn't see you for weeks. Hell, you can provide an automatic water feeder, food dispenser, and a self cleaning litter box and you can take a vacation for a week and not worry about cats.
Dogs are far more a commitment.
John
jr_tech 05-07-2020, 02:51 PM In a way, I wish there was a way to combine the qualities of dogs and cats.
Like this?
https://live.staticflickr.com/4813/46655178671_40e4184104_w_d.jpg
:D
jr
Electronic M 05-07-2020, 09:15 PM Like this?
https://live.staticflickr.com/4813/46655178671_40e4184104_w_d.jpg
:D
jr
I was thinkin more like this... :D
https://www.google.com/search?q=catdog&client=firefox-b-1-m&sxsrf=ALeKk01BZiPczENxJ4Wj469Ulbw3Q1yXIQ:158890387 7198&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwizw7qZmKPpAhWDds0KHYMCCSoQ_AUIBigB&biw=686&bih=280#
CrtsRtubular 05-07-2020, 11:32 PM Haha, my cat thinks its a dog. Won't leave me alone.
TonyP 05-09-2020, 10:08 PM this repuposed tv has been on the internet for a while. im sure the parts are long gone
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