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mepurina
11-21-2019, 01:26 AM
Hi all: I just restored a 1949 Admiral 19A11 Television. Works great but the
channel indicator guide on the case is missing and I need to make one.
Has anyone done this before? From what I have seen, this is a common problem with this set. The channel guide is usually warped, cracked or missing.
I was thinking of getting a good photograph of one and taking it to a sign maker that makes plastic engraved name tags and having them engrave the information on a black badge with white background that would make the engraved part look white in color. See photos of what I need. I just need one really good photo taken straight on so I can get the spacing dimensions right. The photos I show were taken off the internet to show you an example of what I need. I just need a very accurate close up so I can duplicate this plastic piece. Any suggestions are welcome.

MadMan
11-21-2019, 02:38 AM
If you have an exact height and width measurement of the panel, it's easy to warp the photo to fit into it.

It's originally little more than a glorified sticker, though. Why not just print a new sticker?

bandersen
11-21-2019, 10:32 AM
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I was thinking of getting a good photograph of one and taking it to a sign maker that makes plastic engraved name tags and having them engrave the information on a black badge with white background that would make the engraved part look white in color. ...


I think that's a great idea.

I'm not sure what you mean by the original was a glorified sticker. It's a plastic panel with four pegs that snap into the cabinet.

Here are a couple photos I took while working on one.
Sorry I don't have the exact dimensions but perhaps you can estimate based on the cabinet holes ?

https://flic.kr/p/adVMii
https://flic.kr/p/adYAVU

decojoe67
11-21-2019, 12:14 PM
I actually heated a warped one once and got it flat. You don't want to take these off and on too many times. Because they're 70+ year old they can suddenly crack. It's safer to just pull the chassis if you need to make the tuning adjustment.
I understand what that poster meant by a "glorified sticker" - it really is a thin flimsy plate, often with a rough de-gating job at the top. A spring-tension gold plate, like the other Admirals of the period would've been a better option.

jr_tech
11-21-2019, 12:29 PM
Mine is 3.1 inches wide and about 2.5 inches from the top to the curve where it curves under the front of the cabinet. Replicating the curved portion might present a problem to a name tag maker. :scratch2:

jr

MadMan
11-21-2019, 09:13 PM
I think that's a great idea.

I'm not sure what you mean by the original was a glorified sticker. It's a plastic panel with four pegs that snap into the cabinet.
It sure looks like a sticker. Either way, it was kinda janky from the get-go. Printing out a sticker wouldn't really be less aesthetic.
Mine is 3.1 inches wide and about 2.5 inches from the top to the curve where it curves under the front of the cabinet. Replicating the curved portion might present a problem to a name tag maker. :scratch2:

jr
Could have them leave it extra long and heat the plastic with a heat gun and fold it over something with a rounded edge.

mepurina
11-23-2019, 02:42 AM
A sticker! I didn't know it was a sticker. Guess that's why the ones I have seen look shriveled up. I will clean up a capture of a good one and print it on photo paper to give it that shine.

Electronic M
11-23-2019, 10:58 AM
A sticker! I didn't know it was a sticker. Guess that's why the ones I have seen look shriveled up. I will clean up a capture of a good one and print it on photo paper to give it that shine.

It's not a sticker! It's an thin piece of early plastic that is dyed to look like bakelite...It is the same material the dial faces and push buttons of some 40-42 model year Philcos (which are infamous for plastic shrinkage/cracking) used.

Sandy G
11-23-2019, 12:31 PM
I've had 2-3 of these Bad Bois thru the years,& ALL of the Channel Indicator doohickies look like like absolute @ss..All bent, curled up "Don't even THINK about tryin' to REMOVE Me, Fat Boy-I'll crumble into 3 gazillion widdle bitty pieces..." Apparently 1940s plastic DOES have a definite lifespan to it...

mepurina
11-24-2019, 01:16 AM
Bob Anderson: could you please post a clear close up photo of your nice channel guide so I can duplicate it for my Admiral 19A1, Thanks

Eric H
11-25-2019, 01:01 AM
I seem to remember someone reproducing that plate, or at least making the artwork for it.

mepurina
11-25-2019, 10:37 AM
an online company called Radio Daze will make one if I have a good photo of a good one to start with. they make graphics for radio dials and decals for electronics.
I just need a good photo of a good dial to make into a graphic.
http://www.radiodaze.com/dials-plastic-or-phenolic-103/

bandersen
11-25-2019, 12:41 PM
I seem to remember someone reproducing that plate, or at least making the artwork for it.


Radiolaguy

$25 - Vinyl overlay with adhesive backing

https://www.radiolaguy.com/RadioDials-page1.htm

MadMan
11-25-2019, 10:44 PM
There you go. $25 and you don't have to do anything but whip out your credit card.

mepurina
11-25-2019, 11:35 PM
Bob Andersen, Thank you so much for that contact for the Admiral 19A1 channel guide. My Admiral will now look and work like new!
Thanks a lot for your time and tips on how to restore it and thanks to the rest of you guys for your support in my project.
Bob

Sandy G
11-26-2019, 08:38 AM
May just be ME, but there's just SOMETHING about those little 19A11 Admirals that make them look "SO Right".... Operationally, I don't think they're necessarily any better or any worse than any other 7" late '40s TV, but they're to me, just SO damn CUTE.. Sorta like the '57 Chevy of TVs, if you will.... 'Twould be a hoot as well, to find a new in the box somewhere, & see if they gave a better picture when not eaten up w/70 years, & a gazillion hours on the CRT... While we're Dreamin', I wish I had the technical smarts to rig up a COLOR one... Slip a 5" color set-IF you could wrest one away from the Gamer Putzes-put it into thr Admiral cabinet, & you'd have somethin' to REALLY Show Off...

Electronic M
11-26-2019, 12:44 PM
May just be ME, but there's just SOMETHING about those little 19A11 Admirals that make them look "SO Right".... Operationally, I don't think they're necessarily any better or any worse than any other 7" late '40s TV, but they're to me, just SO damn CUTE.. Sorta like the '57 Chevy of TVs, if you will.... 'Twould be a hoot as well, to find a new in the box somewhere, & see if they gave a better picture when not eaten up w/70 years, & a gazillion hours on the CRT... While we're Dreamin', I wish I had the technical smarts to rig up a COLOR one... Slip a 5" color set-IF you could wrest one away from the Gamer Putzes-put it into thr Admiral cabinet, & you'd have somethin' to REALLY Show Off...

There's a Bakelite AA5 Admiral radio that looks similar and would pair well with it.

If the IF has enough bandwidth to pass the chroma sub carrier a NTSC color wheel converter would be an interesting period conversion.

bandersen
11-26-2019, 03:05 PM
Admiral 5R10

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/6d/03/af/6d03af97013c523429a6f6a783a9e74c.jpg