Every few years I search for this item, and have never had anyone prove that any exist.

Does anyone have a Philco Predicta model 4744 or any pictures to prove any were made? I have had several people suggest they had seen them in the past, but never any proof of their existence.

So I'm asking again, do (did) they really exist other than the artwork in the Philco flyers?

http://www.videokarma.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=197634&stc=1&d=1536444559

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It's been a year. Anyone ever seen one?

Haven't seen one, but is that picture actually cropped from a Philco ad, or is the Mastercraft Collection some other companies concept?

Haven't seen one, but is that picture actually cropped from a Philco ad, or is the Mastercraft Collection some other companies concept?
Out of a 1960 Philco brochure.

http://www.videokarma.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=199790&stc=1&d=1573523597

And from a Philco model catalog sheet.

http://www.videokarma.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=199791&stc=1&d=1573523639

Huh. Well it's interesting that the other two models from that brochure are in the Sams index, but I can't find a 4744. Based on that alone I'd say your assumption is pretty sound that they never went into production. If nothing else there would of been Philco factory service documentation with that model listed.

There are a few other Philco sets from that era that nobody has ever seen. They appeared in the catalog (actually the same one posted above). I've seen speculation (and agree) that they were mockups intended to gauge customer interest; if enough people wanted to order them they'd build some.

Some guy I met at the ETF Convention this year was in the process of making one of those TV's. I forgot his name. Maybe he'll chime in.

Or..... Were they possibly "Export" or "Offshore" models ? Seems like I've seen-Prolly here- that some US electronics outfits did a pretty good business in other countries, typically in Central & South America...

The table it's built in to looks like fairly run of the mill office furniture of the day...I could see an interested party making one out of a debutante and a table today to have one....

Some guy I met at the ETF Convention this year was in the process of making one of those TV's. I forgot his name. Maybe he'll chime in.

Crist — that would be ME! Haven’t gotten too far but am interested in a project to create one!

Dave Arland

Crist — that would be ME! Haven’t gotten too far but am interested in a project to create one!

Dave Arland

Hi Dave. Sorry I forgot your name. Does sound like a neat project.

Or perhaps that model was meant to be used in the waiting room area of a Hospital, Doctors Office, Car Dealership or Mechanics Shop? :scratch2:

It would explain the office furniture look to it and also why there would be shelves on it, which could be used for putting reading material on like magazines or books.
It would also might explain why no one on here has seen one in person except for in ads, because perhaps if they were meant for commercial use only like in the aforementioned places, they may have been thrown out once they were no longer repairable and if they only sold a few hundred of them to various hospitals or doctors offices, etc. then that would mean that there may just not be any left in existence anymore.

I've been into vintage TV's for decades and have never seen an existing example of that model. I remember Harry Poster mentioning it and that the screen supposedly could be turned to watch it from any point in the room. Very likely it was indeed an idea set that never went into production. In my opinion the design looks rather kludged together. It looks like a Popular Mechanics home project.
There was a blonde wood Danish-style tiered table for the "briefcase" Seventeener that turned the set into a very cool looking mid-century console, so maybe there was aftermarket tables for the Predicta's too.

I've been into vintage TV's for decades and have never seen an existing example of that model. I remember Harry Poster mentioning it and that the screen supposedly could be turned to watch it from any point in the room. Very likely it was indeed an idea set that never went into production. In my opinion the design looks rather kludged together. It looks like a Popular Mechanics home project.
There was a blonde wood Danish-style tiered table for the "briefcase" Seventeener that turned the set into a very cool looking mid-century console, so maybe there was aftermarket tables for the Predicta's too.

I'm fairly sure every predicta bubble top set had a swivel screen. That metal collar at the base of the top could swivel the screen side to side...it was the same on the 17" table sets and the 21" sets....the side arms that look like this should enable tilting the screen up and down are actually non-functional faux decorations on every predicta I've seen in person.

Are there any other 21inch Predicta chassis that use a power transformer? I have never seen a 10L40 chassis. :scratch2:

jr

Are there any other 21inch Predicta chassis that use a power transformer? I have never seen a 10L40 chassis. :scratch2:

jr

The 4730 pictured above was 21" and uses a power transformer. I own one. IIRC it uses the same 10L43 chassis that drives the 17" debutante sets.

Are there any other 21inch Predicta chassis that use a power transformer? I have never seen a 10L40 chassis. :scratch2:

jr

All the non-swivel top Predictas have power transformers. Like the full dress, Ms American and corner sets.
You don't hear them talked about much but they are Predictas too and use similar chassis inside.

https://www.automatice.org/THUMBNAILS/t370.gif

I'm fairly sure every predicta bubble top set had a swivel screen. That metal collar at the base of the top could swivel the screen side to side...it was the same on the 17" table sets and the 21" sets....the side arms that look like this should enable tilting the screen up and down are actually non-functional faux decorations on every predicta I've seen in person.
They all swivel side to side about 45 degrees, but the room-divider model was touted as turning 350 degrees. Yes, none can be tilted up and down. That would've have been of much benefit anyway.

They all swivel side to side about 45 degrees, but the room-divider model was touted as turning 350 degrees. Yes, none can be tilted up and down. That would've have been of much benefit anyway.

My Princess turns about 350 degrees, but my Holiday seems to be only able to turn about 45 degrees in each direction. IIRC, when I was repairing it, i turned the tube around to the rear to make adjustments, but I don’t remember what I did to enable full travel. :scratch2:

jr

My Princess turns about 350 degrees, but my Holiday seems to be only able to turn about 45 degrees in each direction. IIRC, when I was repairing it, i turned the tube around to the rear to make adjustments, but I don’t remember what I did to enable full travel. :scratch2:

jr

Same 350 on my debutante. To enable full rotation loosten the rear set screw...IIRC some sets you also have to lift and turn.