View Full Version : Exactly what I wanted, right at the curb


Kamakiri
09-02-2015, 06:11 AM
Spied an ad in the Craigslist free section for the exact type of set I was looking for. It was at the curb about 12 miles from me. The last time I saw an older color console it was gone within a half hour of the ad post. I high tailed it over and it was gone :(

This time, I decided, what the heck, and I was rewarded with this nice 1973 RCA GS704LX, CTC-58 chassis. Was pretty dirty, but cleaned up nicely. The picture tube was really weak and baking the filament did no good. Zapped the tube once and it came right up :)

I'd been wanting an older SS color console for a while as a daily driver (just to mix things up), and this one is just what I wanted :)

Findm-Keepm
09-02-2015, 07:10 AM
Silde controls in the pull out drawer, or rotary controls?

Ah, the "MA" chassis XL-100s, with the non-repairable MAD modules, looks like you have 3 good ones -they were just as reliable as the repairable ones. RCA got it right with their thin-film modules, unlike Zenith.

My dream set is a similar-XL chassis in the danish modern console cabinet with 2 speakers - one on each end. I had one as a teenager, but sold it to a guy with 7 kids (oldest was my age) - his mother-in-law had the same exact model and he loved it, and wanted mine. Oddly, his kids didn't watch much TV.

VERY nice find :yes:

If you need any modules....lemme know

DavGoodlin
09-02-2015, 09:17 AM
I havent seen local curb-action like that in 30+ years :sigh:- An XL-100 is ALWAYS a great find:D.

dieseljeep
09-02-2015, 10:04 AM
Silde controls in the pull out drawer, or rotary controls?

Ah, the "MA" chassis XL-100s, with the non-repairable MAD modules, looks like you have 3 good ones -they were just as reliable as the repairable ones. RCA got it right with their thin-film modules, unlike Zenith.

My dream set is a similar-XL chassis in the danish modern console cabinet with 2 speakers - one on each end. I had one as a teenager, but sold it to a guy with 7 kids (oldest was my age) - his mother-in-law had the same exact model and he loved it, and wanted mine. Oddly, his kids didn't watch much TV.

VERY nice find :yes:

If you need any modules....lemme know
When I read, CTC58, it looked strange, but then I remembered CTC48,58,68. All about the same, three different years. My curb find, a CTC68. It was at an estate sale, marked $5.00, the last day, everything half price. I didn't feel like schlepping that heavy beast out of the basement.
Monday morning, there it was, on the roadside. :thmbsp:

MRX37
09-02-2015, 11:56 AM
Makes me wish I hadn't screwed up the RCA console I had. It was a delta gun set with a strong CRT.

RobtWB
09-02-2015, 12:38 PM
... nice set
I had posted a similar set back in 2009 I think , a 58N chassis from 1975
pics have long since disappeared from here ...
... still one of my favorite sets , in fact it is my bedroom set , used it with a VCR to watch movies
I had to replace those dumb ass sliding pots that RCA used, thankfully Brian G had some NOS ones
mine produces an awesome pic

wa2ise
09-02-2015, 02:18 PM
I had an RCA set just like it, I still have some of the plug in modules, if you want them as spares. For postage.
http://videokarma.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=187932&d=1441192260

Kamakiri
09-02-2015, 07:36 PM
Well for now, the one thing I need are the slider knobs, if anyone has them. Three out of the 4 are missing, and I have to use a pocket screwdriver to adjust them.

I've run it about 8 hours or so, and she's happy as a clam :)

Kamakiri
09-14-2015, 06:43 AM
Well, my buddy Ed came over to look at it, turns out the blue gun was still weak. We zapped it, and it came right back :)

Now, the bad news.

I must have at least 40 hours on this set since I got it. BigaudioAl was over this past weekend, and we were watching Rocky III on it. Then Rocky IV :D .

But just as Apollo Creed got killed, something snapped, and we lost video and audio.....brownish raster and just static in the sound. Shut it off, and it made a FLIPFLIPflipflip....flip.....flip sound. I remember hearing that same sound before, on an early 70s Admiral black and white. It had an instant on feature, and I cut the diode going to the switch to disable it. After that, it would make that same sound when it shut off. Only ever heard that sound once coming from a set, and that was then.

Somehow, that's making me think a diode somewhere let go. Ideas?

Username1
09-14-2015, 08:48 AM
Well, looks like you got yer money's worth out of it.....
Is that a smaller - possibly portable chassis in a big cabinet....
I've seen that before, and I think as a 17" ?? Am I wrong....?

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dieseljeep
09-14-2015, 10:22 AM
Well, looks like you got yer money's worth out of it.....
Is that a smaller - possibly portable chassis in a big cabinet....
I've seen that before, and I think as a 17" ?? Am I wrong....?

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The 17" chassis was completely different. A CTC72? Smaller power transformer and different horiz sweep output.
The chassis were physically the same size.
Those lousy slide control knobs always crumbled. IIRC, they were two different lengths, depending on the model.
Many sets, that had the tilt-out control panel, the picture would change drastically, when moved in and out. always, a PITA. :thumbsdn:

DavGoodlin
09-14-2015, 10:23 AM
Check the solder connections on the transformers mounted on the PC board below the yoke and convergence plugs. Many a strange problem on these chassis is a cold solder joint

Given your clues, it may also be a capacitor section, possibly one on a lower supply voltage to the IF-Tuner

Looking for slider knobs. They were brittle and break if slider was not cleaned. We used Lube-a-trol' possiby same as DeOxit "fader lube"

Kamakiri
09-14-2015, 10:53 AM
It's a 25" set. We cleaned the snot out of all the controls, and it was working great. It was just a tiny little "click" noise and lost picture.

Findm-Keepm
09-14-2015, 11:33 AM
141494 are your slide knobs - sold them 4 to a pack. Moyers and Talon are out. I have a cousin's set with one broke knob, so we are in the same boat.

C104, a 3 or 4-section can goes with all sorts of problems on those XL's. The 30-volt supply feeds the MAK module (IF module) and it has to be clean. The 1500uF section in the 3-section usually goes - it's rated at 40V, we always swapped in a 2200@50V, hanging under the chassis. You'll need to isolate the 1500uf section, or swap out/stuff the whole can.

The XL - series had three different caps over the run of those chassis, all different in values. Send me the drawing number (9XXXXX-X) off the cap and I can cross it so you can check moyers for one.

I too have plenty of MA-series modules, lemme know if you need any to troubleshoot with. There is a substitution matrix, but you have mostly 001-suffixed modules, so I have the direct replacements.

The MAK was relatively reliable as a module - most got swapped because of a bad 30V supply, then the shops would swap the cap, fixing the set. Modules were non-returnable, so the customer ate a module. We had plenty of junkers, and never had to use a rebuilt module.

Be careful swapping modules - the blue/gray plastic socket housings are FRAGILE - and getting hard to find, like the slide knobs.

Cheers,

Still my favorite RCA....

Username1
09-15-2015, 09:50 AM
Can't you guys just use another slide knob....? What is the problem fitting
another in...? Size, Wattage..? what...?

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oldtvsandtoy
09-15-2015, 01:06 PM
Did you take the lamp too?:D

Kamakiri
09-15-2015, 02:13 PM
Yep, it's in the living room, actually! :eek:

TVTim
09-15-2015, 07:31 PM
What a GREAT find Tim. Beautiful console. Glad you got it back up and running.

Kamakiri
10-01-2015, 10:31 AM
Silde controls in the pull out drawer, or rotary controls?

Ah, the "MA" chassis XL-100s, with the non-repairable MAD modules, looks like you have 3 good ones -they were just as reliable as the repairable ones. RCA got it right with their thin-film modules, unlike Zenith.

My dream set is a similar-XL chassis in the danish modern console cabinet with 2 speakers - one on each end. I had one as a teenager, but sold it to a guy with 7 kids (oldest was my age) - his mother-in-law had the same exact model and he loved it, and wanted mine. Oddly, his kids didn't watch much TV.

VERY nice find :yes:

If you need any modules....lemme know

Looks like I blew the IF module. Happen to have one?

DavGoodlin
10-02-2015, 10:05 AM
Looks like I blew the IF module. Happen to have one?


Sure do, want it mailed?
I has lots of XL-Colortrak and CC modules but let all my modular sets go in favor of tube stuff.

RobtWB
11-03-2015, 09:55 PM
... I have been watching my 1975 ctc 58n the past week or so using a cheap uhf loop and a GE set top box.
... I had not watched this set in probably a year. I had forgotten the awesome pic it makes ... A really nice change from my everyday watcher which is a 2002 36" CRT SHARP

Kamakiri
11-06-2015, 07:36 PM
Sure do, want it mailed?
I has lots of XL-Colortrak and CC modules but let all my modular sets go in favor of tube stuff.

Sure. NOW I see this!! :screwy:

I managed to find an MAK001B on ebay for $10 and she came back to life :)

But if you've got one, I'd still love to have it. The one I got is NOS, but it's pretty rusty....

rcaman
11-07-2015, 08:12 PM
i have some i.f. modules if you still need.

Findm-Keepm
11-23-2015, 09:04 AM
Did ya ever find some slide knobs for this set? There's a package up on eBay right now - 141494 ............not mine, no seller affiliation, Pradaxa should not be taken with other overpriced medications, yada, yada, yada..

Kamakiri
11-23-2015, 12:20 PM
Good catch. And now mine :D

As a corollary to your comment, I don't care if anyone puts links to their eBay stuff here. After all, nobody's getting rich off TV stuff.

Well, most of us aren't, anyway...... :tongue: