View Full Version : Nothing to write home about, but it works great!


Kamakiri
10-09-2014, 11:36 AM
A $10 estate sale find from last week is this Admiral 19" black and white model 19P690M....even came with the original wheeled cart. Probably made with leftover components coupled to a pretty big picture tube, it was made in 1974 and retailed for $119. Typical excellent Admiral build quality. It blew an 8BM11 and lost picture within 10 minutes of getting it home. Got one on ebay for 4.99 shipped and she's back in business :)

Too bad the "ADMIRAL" chrome strip is missing at the bottom. Anybody got one? :)

Carmine
10-09-2014, 12:43 PM
Can't help with the name badge, but if you are looking to improve the appearance, I recall a similar Admiral being given a more modern look...

http://videokarma.org/showthread.php?t=247599&highlight=sanjarali

Kamakiri
10-09-2014, 01:22 PM
Heh :D

I don't remember ever seeing that thread before. Too funny!

One interesting thing though.....the "ADMIRAL" strip on his set is taped on. Musta been some crappy glue they used back at the factory. Ain't Japan though, this set was made in Chicago....

old_coot88
10-09-2014, 03:32 PM
A common problem with those was- someone had jammed the back back on without lining up the horz hold shaft, and tore the coil partway out of the board.
GEs had the same problem.

dieseljeep
10-09-2014, 05:58 PM
Heh :D

I don't remember ever seeing that thread before. Too funny!

One interesting thing though.....the "ADMIRAL" strip on his set is taped on. Musta been some crappy glue they used back at the factory. Ain't Japan though, this set was made in Chicago....
I was talking to an ex-Admiral employee.
He said, that all the portable sets were built in the McHenry, Il plant. It's west of Chicago and Cook county.
The firm, produced 1000's of sets a week, three shifts, five or six days a week.
It probably changed when Rockwell international, bought out Admiral Corp.

zeno
10-09-2014, 06:54 PM
That set brings back memories. Dont know how many
instant on diodes I snipped out of them. Not a bad set, surprized
more arnt around still.

As far as Rockwell goes it pissed me off when they killed Admiral.
They made real good SS sets in the end, then gone:tears:
I will qualify that, IIRC the M10? 13-17-19" sets were real
dogs. Very well built but less reliable than tube sets.
Where did all the newer Admirals go ? Nobody finds them.

73 Zeno:smoke:

Kamakiri
10-09-2014, 07:58 PM
That set brings back memories. Dont know how many
instant on diodes I snipped out of them. Not a bad set, surprized
more arnt around still.

This is an instant on set? Ugh. I didn't notice the tubes lit when plugged in and off, but then again I really didn't look for that either.

If so, where's that diode?

Jon A.
10-09-2014, 08:55 PM
This is an instant on set? Ugh. I didn't notice the tubes lit when plugged in and off, but then again I really didn't look for that either.

If so, where's that diode?
Across the power switch contacts I believe.

rca2000
10-09-2014, 09:30 PM
That set brings back memories. Dont know how many
instant on diodes I snipped out of them. Not a bad set, surprized
more arnt around still.

As far as Rockwell goes it pissed me off when they killed Admiral.
They made real good SS sets in the end, then gone:tears:
I will qualify that, IIRC the M10? 13-17-19" sets were real
dogs. Very well built but less reliable than tube sets.
Where did all the newer Admirals go ? Nobody finds them.

73 Zeno:smoke:

But the M25 25" SS sets were NOT too bad--and easy to work on. Fairly well built too. Also the M30--it had a VRT transformer--IIRC. I think the M50 or so was their last 25" console. It had big modules that "swung out", from the chassis, IIRC and also a VRT.

The tubes were NOT too good--at least in the Airline version of the M25 I had--but a Chromacolor tube made that set look VERY nice indeed...31 years ago almost exactly.

zeno
10-10-2014, 06:50 AM
Has a DPDT on off SW its right on the rear of the SW.
The last ones may not have had it, it very much fell out of favor.
Everyone wanted it defeated, we charged a little extra to snip it if
already in for service. Lightning got lots of them sticking the
set on. Also the rectifire & 5.6 ohm fusable, gravy jobs.

73 Zeno:smoke:


This is an instant on set? Ugh. I didn't notice the tubes lit when plugged in and off, but then again I really didn't look for that either.

If so, where's that diode?

zeno
10-10-2014, 07:21 AM
The bad ones were the ones with 2 pass transistors. They
went left & right. Pain 'cause the sockets were loose & you had
to hold them in with a screwdriver when changing. In a bad place
also, almost needed 3 hands. Vert boards & separate outputs
were also brewing up often. CRT was RCA in line with spring
contacts & the filament cons always burned. Worst thing is
even running 100% the color sucked on them IMHO. Very
pastel, no brilliance to anything. The later non modular sets
were MUCH better, as good as any.

Consoles I loved. Very easy to fix & no bizarre circuits. CRT's
were the only bad thing, IIRC they were Westinghouse. Had
no snap to them & folks were getting used to seeing good
pictures in a bright room. Either a Zenith or Sylvania jug made
them look great. Last sets were the "Era 2" with mother board
construction. Every assy could be ordered & plugged in. Only saw
a few, 19" with delta CRT. Only advances were in the tuners
& the plug in remote option.

73 Zeno:smoke:


But the M25 25" SS sets were NOT too bad--and easy to work on. Fairly well built too. Also the M30--it had a VRT transformer--IIRC. I think the M50 or so was their last 25" console. It had big modules that "swung out", from the chassis, IIRC and also a VRT.

The tubes were NOT too good--at least in the Airline version of the M25 I had--but a Chromacolor tube made that set look VERY nice indeed...31 years ago almost exactly.

Kamakiri
10-10-2014, 12:14 PM
I know the switch of which you speak. I just spent a considerable amount of time working with a GE instant-on portable :yuck: . Doesn't seem to exist on this model, which is just fine by me :)

Jon A.
10-10-2014, 12:24 PM
Consoles I loved. Very easy to fix & no bizarre circuits. CRT's
were the only bad thing, IIRC they were Westinghouse. Had
no snap to them & folks were getting used to seeing good
pictures in a bright room. Either a Zenith or Sylvania jug made
them look great. Last sets were the "Era 2" with mother board
construction. Every assy could be ordered & plugged in. Only saw
a few, 19" with delta CRT. Only advances were in the tuners
& the plug in remote option.

73 Zeno:smoke:
So those are the sets my remote kit is made for.

zeno
10-10-2014, 05:19 PM
So those are the sets my remote kit is made for.
I would say so if its modern. IIRC you plugged in the remote
pick up on the front & that was it. You prob have one of the
very few left.

73 Zeno:smoke:

Jon A.
10-10-2014, 06:21 PM
I would say so if its modern. IIRC you plugged in the remote
pick up on the front & that was it. You prob have one of the
very few left.

73 Zeno:smoke:
That's exactly how it works, and mine's in the original box.

Kamakiri
11-06-2014, 06:05 AM
Decided to use this set in the bedroom....with a 19" picture tube and a slim profile, it's perfect. Watched the election coverage on it the other night. I had it run through the agile modulator, but decided to hook it up to a DTV converter box just for grins.

After I got done hooking it up, I turned it on, and wait a minute, no warmup time! :eek:

I never had it left plugged in before, but it turns out this IS an instant on model. Time to pull the back and get that situation corrected....

DavGoodlin
11-06-2014, 08:00 AM
Tim, I had one just like that but the UHF knob was on the left side - it looked good too. :thmbsp:
Sold it to Dave A for $5, so it might be used to show archive video of Phillies Games from teh early 70s.

When I was 19 and in tech school, I had the fortune to work at an Admiral Dealer in Allentown, who sold Admiral up to the end before adding Sony to his Zenith store.
Having experience with the late 60s Admiral sets impressed him but he asked, "what if you open one up and there are no tubes or modules", when i said I learned to fix Sony's at the last place, then he hired me.

My experiences were similar to Zeno's as I remember changing some really sick-looking CRTs. I was very sad to see Admiral go.

bgadow
11-16-2014, 09:25 PM
I have an Era II chassis up in the attic, rescued from a former Admiral dealer, this one had knob tuning. Never could stand to toss it. I had a late 70s 19" Admiral that was pretty cheap but worked well; gave that one to some friends.

Kamakiri
11-17-2014, 11:16 AM
All I did was snip the diode on the back of the on/off/vol switch, and all's good!

Weird thing though, when you shut the set off now, the horizontal oscillator slows down to a flip-flip-flip-flip, then it shuts off. Kinda neat really.

old_coot88
11-17-2014, 01:38 PM
All I did was snip the diode on the back of the on/off/vol switch, and all's good!

Weird thing though, when you shut the set off now, the horizontal oscillator slows down to a flip-flip-flip-flip, then it shuts off. Kinda neat really.
That's interesting. Possibly the H.osc runs off B Boost like the generically-similar GE portables. Delayed bleed-down of the Boost might be causing the effect.