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Dave A 05-11-2013, 07:17 PM An old and dear friend gave this to me. She is very ill and wanted me to have it.
No markings other that a RCA/Westinghouse/GE license plate on the chassis. Back is a loop from some other set. Swing clips on the back top would have been for a full back cover. No markings on the front.
It is a very stylish deco tabletop with the oval airplane dial and sub-markers inside the oval for volume, tone, band. Almost 2' wide and very late 30's. Stromberg or something not a major mfr? Refinished with no decals but presentable as is. Probably darker in its prime. Knobs have a basket-weave pattern on them. Tries to work.
Pics working now. Thanks admins.
Added a photo of the basketweave knobs for help.
Dave A 05-14-2013, 10:41 PM Pics fixed. Now for the collective help on the ID.
Sandy G 05-14-2013, 11:07 PM I ain't gonna hazard a guess, but "Me LIKEY !" Very nice lookin' set...
Dave A 05-15-2013, 12:00 AM I got the Sandy blessing! I now have the will to live.
Kamakiri 05-15-2013, 07:09 AM Appears to be a Worthmore. Knew I'd seen that one before:
http://sfhobbies.com/sfhobbies/radio/TheAngryFace/index.html
Dave A 05-15-2013, 12:51 PM Thanks Kam. Not much info out there other than it is model 813K. Nothing on Nostalgiair for Worthmore. The Silver name appears in a few variations but I don't have a Silver model # if there is one. Need to search the 8-tube lineup. And with all those names, who actually made it?
That dial construction is amazing. I do have the blue band insert in mine. Needs a little tack back in place in one spot. More searching after work.
Reece 05-15-2013, 01:48 PM Very unique set. As to the loop antenna, that set was made before loops were commonly provided, so I imagine that the loop doesn't really function as a true part of a tuned circuit. The radio was probably made to use a long wire antenna. Easy enough to determine: if it has antenna coils on/below the chassis, then the loop isn't part of the radio design. Ten feet of wire would probably work better.
Dave A 05-16-2013, 10:25 PM Sent a note to the website and Yuriy answered. He is on the road and will get back to me when he gets home. He could not see VK as he is not a member and I sent the pix for him.
This set is looking more rare by the moment. I asked him for back pix and a possible schematic. His pix are very low res and seems to show a simple badge with no clue as to who made it. His knobs are different than mine.
Reese is right as to the loop.
Does anyone have a site that can scan the tube lineup and display a possible match?
Stay tuned.
dieseljeep 05-17-2013, 08:20 AM Appears to be a Worthmore. Knew I'd seen that one before:
http://sfhobbies.com/sfhobbies/radio/TheAngryFace/index.html
Try looking at Howard models in Riders. They were one of the Chicago independents. They also used dials like that and painted their chassis. :scratch2:
Reece 05-17-2013, 07:59 PM Plug your tube numbers into the search boxes on this site and you *could* find the manufacturer.
http://www.grillecloth.com/sylvania/tubelist.php
bgadow 05-17-2013, 10:58 PM Definately one of those "Chicago independents", does it mention being built at "Plant A" on the tag? They often showed up under a host of different names. Check "Climax".
Dave A 05-17-2013, 11:31 PM BG you were reading my mind. Spent some quality time searching Climax on radiomuseum.org and I think I struck gold but I do not belong to radiomuseum and cannot see the schematics.
Climax was a Chicago mfr. for not long around 1936/1937 on S. Sangamon St. Site has two pages of models and on page 2 they mention the Model 90 "Angry Face" which seems to have come from the sfhobbies.com website text. But that is a 7 tube set and mine is 8. The rest of the 90 series are variations on the 7 tube but only two photos of the same set.
Their other sets with the few photos seem to be of the same garish styling and airplane dial variations. And all with an eye tube but no others with the "angry face" dial version.
Climax made exactly one 8 tube model...the ME and MEBT...both 8 tubes and the exact tube lineup. A winner for now.
http://www.radiomuseum.org/r/climax_mebt.html
I did Reeses search and found Climax Radio and Television and the MEBT in Riders 8-11 and two other models that radiomuseum does not list. The ME9 and ME17 with no Riders mention. Cousins I guess. And if they disappear in 1937, where does the "television" come from? A look at ARF found a thread that they became General Radio and Television in 1943. Nothing after that. The internet is dry.
The game is afoot! Help with Riders would be great. Only TV Riders here. And to see the pile of Riders that went to the "buy it now" at Kutztown only makes me cry. No takers.
Update; found the M/ME/MEBT at nostalgiaair. Small but useful. Notes show the eye tube was not on the M/ME.
Dave A 05-22-2013, 06:16 PM Does anyone have any of the Climax "angry face" radios? I would like a pix of the decals and logo if there are any. Logo may be a little plate nailed on.
Could also be Worthmore or Silver brands.
radioactive 05-28-2013, 07:49 AM http://www.myantiqueradio.com/images/owldial.JPG
Dave A 06-22-2013, 10:10 PM Update. Took the radio to the DVHRC monthly meeting for a show and tell. Got Chuck A in a corner to recap it and got it back today. He changed all the caps...as usual...and all the resitors to boot. All off value. Alignment too. Tone control is not good so it was wired around for now until a replacement appears. No front end on this one. Looks like some work was done in the early 50's. The radio is playing nicely tonight with my Radio DJ and sounds great at 1610kc. Fidelity is fine with the wonky tone control. Both of the possible Riders was not correct but close enough for restoration. Needs a long-wire for proper use. Three foot long-wire working fine for local for now.
My thanks to Chuck and Yuriy for help with this rare radio and to my old girlfriend who gave it to me so it would have a good home.
Please wish her well in her in her time of trouble and her kindness to me to preserve this radio from our time long ago.
toxcrusadr 06-26-2013, 04:54 PM Very cool! Best wishes to the lady, may health and happiness follow.
Sandy G 06-26-2013, 06:21 PM Very cool! Best wishes to the lady, may health and happiness follow.
Here, Here !!
Dave A 06-26-2013, 07:30 PM Thanks guys! I will let her know about all your best wishes. She is a radio trouper. Besides the Climax she found a GE console of no distinction she keeps in her dining room as a display piece...missing veneer and all.
Jon A. 06-26-2013, 08:24 PM http://www.myantiqueradio.com/images/owldial.JPG
Makes me think of the elevator scene in The Shining.
Edit: Oops, turns out I tried to quote the pic in radioactive's sig.
All the best to the lady. :)
Dave A 06-04-2017, 07:01 PM Bump. A few years since this thread and am wondering if anyone else ever found one in the wild since then. No sightings at Kutztown. The website by Yuriy seems to be gone so we are on our own. Mine fired up right away tonight after a few years of sleep. Some Deoxit would help the controls.
And the beautiful Cheryl passed but lives long here with me with memories of her Georgia accent. "Hi sweetie". Sandy will understand.
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parvo 03-20-2019, 12:07 AM I noticed your post a few years ago and I lost track. The radio I have looks exactly like yours with the exception of a duller finish, bullet style knobs, missing power cord and no schematic available anywhere. I am prepared to refinish the cabinet and the face dial is remarkably clean and very detailed without any rust or paint flaking. I have tried to get a transformer ID to make a replacement but none available. It has had a partial recap at least the electrolytic with modern axial style caps. Unfortunately the can is missing so I do not know the actual values of what the can might have contained. Most of the paper caps can be read and they look to be original. I can surmise from the missing power cord that there may have been a problem in circuit and the transformer has melted wax streaming down the wires feeding the internals. That may very well have been a sign of an end of life situation..not sure. The links provided years ago are now no longer active so I will have to go on another wild goose chase to find an alternative to restore this radio or see if I can economically adapt the tuning face with an alternative circuit for short wave and am reception. the other band seems to be a set of discontinued public service frequencies or long wave..I am not near the radio to find out. I noticed the four pin tubes are not clearly marked where represented on similarly dated and similar models with the same tube numbers.
PDF copied Ryders seem to be wash out or unclear on part numbers but old nfo will probably be like that for all schematics from that era. I you find or happen to have a schematic or can find a part number,or even a wire pinout of the transformer, that would be most appreciated. I have thought about testing the transformer on a variac and DMM but high voltages and a burned out transformer sorta scares me. I will check in from time to time if you or anyone reading this has more NFO or links to get me on the right track to restore it..BTW Yours looks beautiful and thanks for taking the time to present your story to us:-) regards, Allen
Rog Beltmann 05-04-2019, 06:05 AM Beautiful looking radio. Glad you got it working ! Does the magic eye tube work ?
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