So i was going to test a picture tube , and i dropped my hotpoint portable
and when i tured it on to see if it sill worked ZAPP! IT SHOKED ME!
the cabinet was electrified!

It was probably trying to teach you to stop picking up TVs...

2 words:

Isolation Transformer

Was Led Zeppelin playing when this event happened?

"You know you shoke me baby..." :music:

And from Ten Commandments for Technicians (should you live to find a significant other):

"Work thou not on energized equipment, for if thou dost, thy fellow workers will surely buy beers for thy widow and console her in other ways" :sigh:

That'll learn ya...

I like it, "shoke" a new past tense for "shocked."

2 words:

Isolation Transformer
At the very minimum, a GFCI protected outlet. :thmbsp:

The worst shock I have ever had was when I was about your age, someone gave me a Tandberg 64x tape recorder to play with.... Took a dose of 300 volt B+ and had to go lay down for a good half hour Wow did I ever learn my lesson, have been very careful ever since. At

Hello Johnny you are lucky that tv did not fall on your head next time do not stack your sets that high because if it would fall on your head the rastermaster as you call your self would be dead so please be careful as long as you did not get injured your o.k....Timothy

YIKES!

Don't stack TV sets on top of other sets....especially if that bottom set is on legs of any sort. That's just an accident waiting to happen. I'm even weird about putting my little tiny micro sets on top of eachother. MOST of them sit directly on a shelf. I do have in the front room a couple little 4" sets on top of some 9" color sets...but I'm more concerned about scratching the cabinets than them falling over or something.

Big 'ol sets are far too "front heavy" to be stacking. The larger "newer" sets are WORSE with that problem, because the little PC board "chassis" isn't NEARLY heavy enough to keep the set down in back.

metal chassis has built in isolation mounts (plastic inserts) that isolate the chassis from the cabinet. Also any tube shields need to be in place (not allowed to come into contract with the metal cabinet.

the drop may have bent the cabinet enough to come into contact with the chassis OR damaged a isolation mount Or knocked a tube shield loose.

All safety caps should have been replaced already as well.

Too be extra safe if you are accident prone would be to use an isolation transformer.

Is it bad, that as soon as I saw a thread about a TV being dropped, I knew who it was before I opened it?

Anyways, I AM glad you're ok.

Glad your ok too just be more careful next time.

Best to let the Darwin culling process work unimpeded.

JUST KIDDING !!!

:wave::o

That is a hot chassis set, one side of the chassis is connected directly to the AC, if you happen to plug it in so it's the hot side you can get zapped, flipping the plug over in the wall socket should fix that but an isolation transformer is a lot safer.

A transformer still won't save you from getting across the B+ line and chassis ground however and it's a lot higher voltage than the 115 from the wall.

On some Hotpoints/GEs I have from that era all that "isolates" the hot chassis from the cabinet is a thin piece of cardboard.

YIKES!

Don't stack TV sets on top of other sets....especially if that bottom set is on legs of any sort. That's just an accident waiting to happen. I'm even weird about putting my little tiny micro sets on top of eachother. MOST of them sit directly on a shelf. I do have in the front room a couple little 4" sets on top of some 9" color sets...but I'm more concerned about scratching the cabinets than them falling over or something.

Big 'ol sets are far too "front heavy" to be stacking. The larger "newer" sets are WORSE with that problem, because the little PC board "chassis" isn't NEARLY heavy enough to keep the set down in back.

well this stack wasnt big it was just on top a zenith console.

although i do stack em' high!
my highest stack is a sylvania halolight combo,and a zenith color ontop that and a sylvania slim jim on that a silvertone radio ontop that then a pair of 50s rabbit ears. :D

There's a reason your set was called a "Hotpoint."

There's a reason your set was called a "Hotpoint."

The Hotpoint name seemed to be rather common in Australia. They even have radios with that name. :boring:

Hotpoint was a General Electric brand, the TV"s are pretty much identical internally with minor cosmetic differences.

Hotpoint was a General Electric brand, the TV"s are pretty much identical internally with minor cosmetic differences.

I'm well aware of that! The original service manuals showed both logo's on the front cover. :yes:

Wasn't Hotpoint GE's "Downmarket" brand ? Virtually the same as GE, except a little less ornate in chrome filigree and/or paint schemes ? GE was a "High Street" brand, sold by the "Big" stores on the main street, while Hotpoint was sold by Fred's Bargain House types..At least, that's how I sorta remember things...

Wasn't Hotpoint GE's "Downmarket" brand ? Virtually the same as GE, except a little less ornate in chrome filigree and/or paint schemes ? GE was a "High Street" brand, sold by the "Big" stores on the main street, while Hotpoint was sold by Fred's Bargain House types..At least, that's how I sorta remember things...

IIRC, GE dealers could sell Hotpoint products, but not vice-versa. Goes back to the days of fair-trading. Big name products were never discounted.
In order to make the sale, trade-in allowance was considered. It had to be shown on the invoice.

well this stack wasnt big it was just on top a zenith console.

although i do stack em' high!
my highest stack is a sylvania halolight combo,and a zenith color ontop that and a sylvania slim jim on that a silvertone radio ontop that then a pair of 50s rabbit ears. :D


I agree with aibopet; that stack (the big one you mention with three large TVs and a radio) is a safety hazard. I'd put those sets next to one another on a shelf or some other arrangement so that they cannot possibly fall. I have seen small portable TVs set atop consoles (pre-DTV), and some folks use their old CRT TV as a stand for a new flat screen when the old set goes bad; this is OK and safe, since the stack is not that high (just two sets, and flat screens aren't that large or heavy anyway so there's almost no load on top of the old sets). Your arrangement, as aibopet stated, is an accident just waiting to happen, and it probably will -- sooner rather than later.

I agree with aibopet; that stack (the big one you mention with three large TVs and a radio) is a safety hazard. I'd put those sets next to one another on a shelf or some other arrangement so that they cannot possibly fall. .

Seriously, we all want you to be successful in this hobby, and us oldtimers (aka oldfarts :) )want to point out various potential pitfalls. And though it may be hard to believe, we all were kids your age eons ago. I was a kid when our collectables here were in current production. Yes, that old... :D
That said:

I imagine as a kid (correct me if I'm wrong, please) you have a standard issue bedroom in a single family house on a quarter acre lot, and thus not a lot of room for your sets. But you do need to be sure nothing can fall, and get broken or hit you or someone else. Even your kid brother...

Also you probably have little spending money, so buying new caps is harder for you than most of us. But back in my day (imagine geezer voice):("I remember, young man, TV was always in B&W") I got usable caps and such from junked but still recent production TV sets and such. And today a BPC CRT TV set will have a circuit board a bunch of likely good caps of the sort you could use to replace the wax caps in your collectable sets. If possible, just take the circuit board and leave behind the cabinet and CRT of the BPC set, and please don't make a mess. PC computer power supplies also have usable caps and such.

Keep in mind too that most of a TV set's weight is in the front (in the thick glass faceplate of the CRT). The TV is much more prone to tipping over forward than backward. Always carry the TV with its face toward you. Much easier on your back that way.
An exception might be a transformer-operated set with the heavy power transformer at the rear of the chassis.

Look, you might think we're doggin' you, or making fun of you-We're NOT. We''re TRYING to give you the benefit of our collective experience, so HOPEFULLY, you WON'T make some of the mistakes some of us did...TVs are FUN, but never forget they can be DANGEROUS, too...You gotta ALWAYS Be Careful..NO TV is worth your getting hurt-Or WORSE-over..Secondly, we DON'T wanna see you Bugger Up a desirable old TV-They ARE getting harder & harder to come by..

Anything: black + White = value to somebody, but only if its not fubar'ed
A rule I always followed as a kid was to never stack more than two high.
A warmer, dryer corner of the basement is good enough to protect stuff from trouble.
Using carpet samples, doormats, drywall pieces or just cardboard as stacking protection is wise
A set with legs or casters under it are not made to carry much more than two times the console's weight.
A 19"portable was tempting to put on top of a table model sitting on a console but violates the two-high rule! So don't do it!