sampson159
10-28-2012, 04:22 PM
picked up a zenith metal cabinet remote set with a vertical chassis at a moving sale today.swivel stand and the hand unit.manufactured in may 1977.what is amazing is that,it is dead!not a whimper out of it!i have never seen one that didnt do something.no breaker tripping,no buzzing,nothing!have never seen this in all my years.i bought it for a parts set but now i am curious.shaking my head in disbelief!
compucat
10-28-2012, 05:42 PM
MOST Un-Zenith-like...
I bought a 1972 or thereabouts 12" black and white Zenith that is completely dead like that. No tubes light or anything. That is very unlike a Zenith. I have not tried to find out what is wrong with it.
radiotvnut
10-28-2012, 06:11 PM
At first, I thought you were going to tell us that you found a flat chassis SS Zenith. Still, what you found is well worth owning and I hope you get it fixed. On those sets, I've seen issues with the remote power supply chassis that would keep them from powering up. I think some of those had a remote/manual switch that may be dirty or in the wrong position.
sampson159
10-28-2012, 09:41 PM
wish it was a flat chassis with a 25v crt.i have another identical set with no high voltage.can take 2 and make one?one has a green lable crt and the other a purple label.not sure what the difference is.
radiotvnut
10-28-2012, 10:19 PM
A year or so ago, I fixed a CCII with not HV and it had an open horizontal driver transformer. There's also a big power resistor on the flat part of the chassis that will open and kill B+ to the horizontal output circuit. I've also seen defective horizontal oscillator modules kill the HV, as well as the cap/resistor in the HOT emitter circuit. Last; but, not least, the HV triplers were high failure parts in these sets.
sampson159
10-28-2012, 10:47 PM
this set doesnt have any voltage anywhere!breaker not tripping,no indication of anything.i have never seen a completely dead zenith.i have seen these sets trip breakers,tuners light,something.i will pull off the back sometime this week if we dont have a power outage.there is a switch in the front panel that is marked main off/on.i will check voltage there first.my other set has no high voltage.both fuses blown and looks like a cap behind the flyback is swollen.owner said it did work but had a slight vertical issue.not enough to fill the screen when cold.after it played for hours it would expand and almost fill out the screen.i put it away until i got a parts set.any idea on the picture tube label?my 25v chromacolor has a purple label 25vdmp22.it has a fantastic picture!
sampson159
10-30-2012, 07:44 PM
i got it working!baffled me but for some stange reason,the wires on the on/off switch came loose and the set wouldnt power up.i resoldered and it still didnt power up.exchanged the on/manual switch and the same result.found a blown fuse in the remote module.replaced and bam!set powered up with a dim,blurry picture.looked like a bad crt.after 15 minutes,the crt came to life.working well but then a flickering and now it has a loss of contrast.i turned up the agc and it has a very good picture for now.the contrast control doesnt work very much and its backwards.it was working properly when i first powered up.now it has a slight range and again,it is backwards.convergence is so-so with room for improvement.glad crt came up.now to fix the damn contrast issue!windy,wet and very cold today.had to abandon the set in the garage.here are some screen shots
sampson159
10-31-2012, 04:59 PM
update-turned it on this morning.set played flawlessly for 5 hours straight.contrast worked properly and overall very satisfied with this set.remote is operating as it should.crossing my fingers and hoping it will give another 35 years of service!
MK1234Tfan
10-31-2012, 10:34 PM
Holy cow that's a great picture! I bet emissions are great on that thing!
sampson159
10-31-2012, 10:48 PM
it looks pretty good but the crt didnt test all that well.it was even with all 3 guns at 7.5.in the green but barely.i have an identical set with an outstanding crt.may swap out the chassis.i also need a zenith crt for my hybrid console.it has a sylvania rebuilt crt with severe cataract.it will pop off easily without any heat.that crt is extremely good but i like a zenith to be all zenith.