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stereorob
12-06-2011, 01:50 PM
here are a few i dragged home

http://i776.photobucket.com/albums/yy45/beaumontacoustics/around%20the%20house/6610138.jpg


http://i776.photobucket.com/albums/yy45/beaumontacoustics/around%20the%20house/6610137.jpg


http://i776.photobucket.com/albums/yy45/beaumontacoustics/around%20the%20house/3-5-10014.jpg


http://i776.photobucket.com/albums/yy45/beaumontacoustics/around%20the%20house/3-2-10magnavoxst-678firstlook.jpg

http://i776.photobucket.com/albums/yy45/beaumontacoustics/around%20the%20house/ebayshit3-17-2010067.jpg

http://i776.photobucket.com/albums/yy45/beaumontacoustics/around%20the%20house/cats024.jpg

http://i776.photobucket.com/albums/yy45/beaumontacoustics/around%20the%20house/capehartconsolefirstlook.jpg

http://i776.photobucket.com/albums/yy45/beaumontacoustics/around%20the%20house/shitte2012.jpg

http://i776.photobucket.com/albums/yy45/beaumontacoustics/around%20the%20house/3-5-10016.jpg

how bout you?

Kamakiri
12-06-2011, 02:47 PM
Well, if nothing else, your house won't blow away.....

stereorob
12-06-2011, 02:50 PM
haha. actully i dont live there anymore, lost my trailer to a major storm last sunner that took half the roof off with it. im in the prosess of buying a house right now.

Kamakiri
12-06-2011, 02:56 PM
In that case, I retract my previous statement.... :para:

stereorob
12-06-2011, 03:08 PM
haha. i have many many more in storage. one day ill dig them out bring them to south fl, and post them here. i have some stuff you would prolly really appretiate. like a 1940s roundie tube tabletop tv that actully works!

zenithfan1
12-06-2011, 03:12 PM
Hey! Can I make this a sticky like on AK? I always liked the "Show us your 'X' " threads. I used to have a Maggie just like picture 4, it was awesome but I ran out of room for it. I'll have to post some pictures of my Motorola console......god I love that thing.....:drool:

stereorob
12-06-2011, 03:14 PM
maybe. but im banned there. so sadley id never get to see it :(

btw with a name like zenithfan1, im shure you have some cool stuff in your stash!
post some pics!! lets see them!!

zenithfan1
12-06-2011, 03:17 PM
No, it would stick here, I was only comparing it to there. And yes, I have some cool stuff kicking around. Too bad my tv page is broken at the moment or you could see some of it. I'll post some pics and fix the site when I'm not broke lol. I went ahead and stickied it, hope that's cool.....

stereorob
12-06-2011, 03:27 PM
hell i dont care man. rock on dude!

and yeah i tried to look at your tv page, sucks that it aint working. i was looking forward to seeing your stash

stereorob
12-06-2011, 03:28 PM
hmmm.. power to stick threads, your name is slanted.. you must be a mod here ey? too bad man, that means we cant be friends. only ememies now! :D just kidding. so how many old tvs you got? and do you have any of those cobra-matics? (i love those)

magnasonic66
12-06-2011, 07:13 PM
:banana:Somebody here loves Magnavox consoles!! Beautiful sets! I like your tv radio phono too!:thmbsp::yes:

stereorob
12-06-2011, 07:19 PM
yeah i love my maggies! you aint seen nothin yet!

Adam
12-07-2011, 02:15 AM
I've got two 1941 models, a Philco 41-295, and a Zenith 8-S-563. I also have a Philco 39-116 (the one with the mystery control), but it still needs a lot of work, and is currently literally sitting underneath a pile of boxes, so I can't get a pic.

http://videokarma.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=172419&d=1323242247

omegaman
12-07-2011, 02:54 PM
Here are three of my consoles. I have five

Voice of Music 1963 Model 869
http://videokarma.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=172421&stc=1&d=1323287566

Blaupunkt from 1960
http://videokarma.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=172422&stc=1&d=1323287566

Barzilay console with Fisher tube
http://videokarma.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=172423&stc=1&d=1323287566

ggregg
12-07-2011, 09:53 PM
Here are a couple of mine.

stereorob
12-08-2011, 12:09 AM
absolutly beautiful! keep em comming!

Kamakiri
12-08-2011, 07:23 AM
I've got two 1941 models, a Philco 41-295, and a Zenith 8-S-563. I also have a Philco 39-116 (the one with the mystery control), but it still needs a lot of work, and is currently literally sitting underneath a pile of boxes, so I can't get a pic.

I've got a 41-295 too! My parents bought it at an auction in 1979, and I restored it for them many years later. It's now in my possession in regular use :)

I've had almost every Philco console there is, including the 39-116. Never had mine working either......

stereorob
12-08-2011, 10:43 AM
I've got a 41-295 too! My parents bought it at an auction in 1979, and I restored it for them many years later. It's now in my possession in regular use :)

I've had almost every Philco console there is, including the 39-116. Never had mine working either......

i own sevral of those older philco and zenith radio consoles from the 40s. its hard to find one thats not in horrible condition, but they are fairly reliable units, most of mine have worked :D :thmbsp: and givin what they are, in all fairness, the sound quality isnt half bad! especially when you get one with a aux/phono hookup. its intresting to hear booty bass gangsta rap blaring out of a 70 year old radio.:D

Kamakiri
12-08-2011, 10:47 AM
"She got them Apple bottom jeans, boots with the fur (with the fur)......"

Um.....I can't see it.....

stereorob
12-08-2011, 10:10 PM
"She got them Apple bottom jeans, boots with the fur (with the fur)......"

Um.....I can't see it.....

yeah dont worry, u will get your chance, the bank just accepted my offer on a 3,000 sqft house *plenty of room for all my crap and future crap* :D
once i close, im going up north, renting a massive u-haul, and pulling all my cool old shit you guys havent seen yet, even at ak, and bringing it all down here, dont worry, there will be a disgusting amount of pics for the "stereorob re-united with all of his toys from years past" thread, not just a bunch of stereos, but lots of old antique radios, 20 or so consoles, and all the other wierd electro-junk i have! :D :banana:

Adam
12-09-2011, 12:50 AM
Yep, I'm a big fan of 1939-42 Philcos. The only real downside is all the rubber wire with crumbling insulation that you have to replace. I used to also have a 42-690, with the BOL phono, but the cabinet was badly water damaged, and the chassis had a mouse nest in it made from that pink insulation, so I just parted it out. My all-time favorite console is the 42-1016P, with the mystery control, BOL, and old FM band. I've always found it kind of disappointing that Philco didn't continue using the BOL and mystery control after the war.

You can really crank up the 41-295 too, with the push-pull 42s it has. I've recently gotten into weightlifting, and with it heavy metal, (listening to Ray Conniff and Herb Alpert 1960s-easy-listening-type-stuff that I usually listen to doesn't really work as well when you're trying to bench press) It is some kind of height of weirdness, to be listening to 1980s heavy metal, from mp3 files on my 2000 computer, through my homebrew tube AM transmitter (built on a 1959 Magnavox console amp chassis), on my 1941 Philco radio.:D

stereorob
12-09-2011, 01:00 AM
hell, ive played death metal and gangsta rap through a 1926 everready model 1 radio with a horn. now that was just strange :D

AUdubon5425
12-09-2011, 02:06 AM
Once upon a time I attempted to play "Metal Machine Music" (on 8-track) in my car. Then it caught fire...

DavGoodlin
01-04-2012, 05:14 PM
This Philco 42-1009 found at at a flee market by the trash pile
Now I need knobs and speaker to complete it. The

The other one is my best Philco, a 501X from 1934. Phono is 33 and 78 rpm
That 42 is one sweet output tube!

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magnasonic66
01-05-2012, 09:20 PM
Remember Ward Cleaver's hi-fi from Leave It To Beaver? Here's a fair screen capture of June playing a record on it. It has no receiver in it, was available with and without that year. General Electric "Canterbury", 1961. I'm looking for one preferably with the radio and Vacu-Magic tone arm.

Celt
01-05-2012, 10:34 PM
Here's a 1960 GE stereo console that I rebuilt for a customer a few years ago.
It has a Voice of Music changer with a Sonotone cartridge and a new rubber idler pulley.
All new caps in the amp and speaker crossovers and all new tubes. Has Aux inputs and a tape loop!

http://videokarma.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=172772&stc=1&d=1325820686
http://videokarma.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=172773&stc=1&d=1325820699
http://videokarma.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=172774&stc=1&d=1325820699

larryderouin
01-07-2012, 03:03 PM
As you can see, I'm a sucker for a FISHER.......6 or 7 depending on whether you count the 560 extension as a separate or not.

1951 FISHER CORONET in the WARWICK Cabinet.
http://www.videokarma.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=172799&stc=1&d=1325966323

1965 FISHER Custom Electra VIII
http://www.videokarma.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=172801&stc=1&d=1325966505

1965 FISHER FUTURA VI
http://www.videokarma.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=172800&stc=1&d=1325966412

1969 Magnavox Chairside with Extension
http://www.videokarma.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=172798&stc=1&d=1325966101

1963 Nordemende Isabella
http://www.videokarma.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=172797&stc=1&d=1325966024

1961 DUMONT Tanglewood.
http://www.videokarma.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=172796&stc=1&d=1325965919

Cont'd next post......
Larry

larryderouin
01-07-2012, 03:26 PM
Now for the Rest.

1958 RCA SHF-5
http://www.videokarma.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=172802&stc=1&d=1325967026

1959 FISHER 510 Consolette with the 560 companion
http://www.videokarma.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=172803&stc=1&d=1325967323

1961 FISHER Coronet II (Cabinet with 400 installed)
http://i408.photobucket.com/albums/pp168/torskdoc/FISHER-%20The%20Ensigns%20-%20Console/100_1900.jpg

1964 FISHER Custom Electra VII

1965 Grundig 590
http://i408.photobucket.com/albums/pp168/torskdoc/Grundig%20KS590%20Console/100_2319.jpg

1967 Magnavox Forest Hills (1p3700)

1969 FISHER Royal electra
http://i408.photobucket.com/albums/pp168/torskdoc/Fisher%20R-494%20Royal%20Electra%20Console/Fisherconsole1.jpg

I'll try and get some pics of the CE VII and the Maggie. My camera is down right now.

Larry

stereorob
01-09-2012, 12:35 AM
IVE ALWAYS LOVED THE FISHER CONSOLES. ive had a few over the years. but sadly they dont last long in one piece around my house if they have stand alone tube receivers built into them. :D

wa2ise
01-09-2012, 10:28 AM
Here's a Steelman console I have. AM radio and record player.
http://www.wa2ise.com/radios/steelman1.jpg

holmesuser01
01-09-2012, 10:36 AM
Other than the Magnavox consoles that neighbors had in the neighborhood, I have never seen any of these Fisher, VM, or any DuMont consoles. I've got an old mono RCA console in the garage.

The Fishers were really lovely units. I had, and donated, a GE Vacuumatic console. The thrift store got some good money for it, too, and I was happy.

dieseljeep
01-09-2012, 11:25 AM
Here's a Steelman console I have. AM radio and record player.
http://www.wa2ise.com/radios/steelman1.jpg

Some of those basic models sound remarkably good.

Kamakiri
01-09-2012, 09:05 PM
You guys are inspiring me, and causing me to start getting packed in! :D

I just brought home a six foot long Zenith/Voice of Music console stereo. Somewhere along the line, it's been modified with very heavy duty adjustable crossovers. Price was $25 in a beautiful Danish Modern cabinet with not a scratch on it.

Seller said that it didn't work, and the reason why was stupid.....somewhere along the line, someone disconnected all of the speakers. I assume that there must have been, making this 2 for 2, some external speaker hookup.

I removed the huge back to expect to find a small Voice of Music 6BQ5 amp similar to what's in the RCA I just got. Nope. Push pull stereo 6L6's, on an amp that's got to have a footprint of about a foot square. This is serious audio. And what amazing sound!

I'll post pics tomorrow :)

Kamakiri
01-09-2012, 10:17 PM
Turns out that this is a Voice of Music console, model 816-2, from 1960. It's got a Zenith label on the front lower left corner that has a pilot light, and has a Zenith stereophonic tube tuner. Here's a picture of what it looks like:

http://www.thevoiceofmusic.com/popup_pics.asp?FOLDER=modelfinderpics/c&FILE=816.jpg&TITLE=816

Reece
01-10-2012, 07:08 AM
So somebody modded it with the crossover and Zenith tuner? Maybe had no tuner at all originally? Sounds hefty!

Kamakiri
01-10-2012, 08:48 AM
Y'know, I'm not sure exactly what was done, or if this is the way it came from the factory. Here's the unit itself:

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f9/hondacuraworld/IMG_5340.jpg

Here's the tuner/pre setup, below the preamp are the two crossover adjust knobs :

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f9/hondacuraworld/IMG_5341.jpg

There's a Zenith OEM decal on the back that has the tuner model number and a tube layout. It also seems that someone added a mono/stereo knob on the back with again what looks like a factory decal, but someone had to notch out the vent holes in the waferboard for it. I'd take more pics, but my camera's out of charge......

This is an interesting find indeed. Figuring what it is, alone, is worth the $25 I paid for it :)

Nick_the_'Nole
01-10-2012, 09:20 AM
If you look closely around the side edges of the tuner, the wood seems to be a different color... which would indicate to me that something else was in there originally. It may not have been a tuner though, it's more likely it was a little record bin or something.

I would think the 'proper' tuner for that thing is the V-M 1413. It was intended as a drop-in upgrade for the phono-only consoles.

Kamakiri
01-10-2012, 11:00 AM
Spoke to a very nice gentleman at http://www.thevoiceofmusic.com/ this morning.

He informed me that the 800 series never came with a tuner, but that there was a slot for adding one. Apparently whoever had this, added the Zenith one.

Trying to figure out what to do with the unit now.......

stereorob
01-10-2012, 11:59 PM
here are a few i have in storage in my long forgotton teenage hangout garage of yesteryear. when i went up north last year, i snapped these. these consoles have not seen power, or the light of day in 10+ years. someday i will go back for them..

maggie providential

http://i1119.photobucket.com/albums/k637/stereorobb/ROOTS/MAGGIE1.jpg

note the garrard TT, clearly not original, but not my work.

http://i1119.photobucket.com/albums/k637/stereorobb/ROOTS/MAGIE2.jpg

monkey wards airline..

http://i1119.photobucket.com/albums/k637/stereorobb/ROOTS/GHJYUKU.jpg

on the bottom of the stack, you can see the top of my zenith tube tv/stereo console

http://i1119.photobucket.com/albums/k637/stereorobb/ROOTS/NITH.jpg

stereorob
01-11-2012, 12:00 AM
http://i1119.photobucket.com/albums/k637/stereorobb/ROOTS/EHG.jpg

Kamakiri
01-11-2012, 06:46 AM
Is that breadbox shaped thing in the above shot on the upper left a radio or a UHF converter? Whatever it is, it looks pretty beefy....

magnasonic66
01-11-2012, 09:00 AM
Wow Rob, if I had the Magnavox, I'd slip that Garrard into a period correct base, and stick its Webster changer back in it. The Airline's changer shows up on the VM site. Here's my next to my last console:

stereorob
01-11-2012, 11:00 AM
kam, the breadbox thing is a am radio/ 78 only phono combo. i have aboud a dosen of these. it needs a cap job cause all it dose is hum.

magna, when i go back up to get it, and when i bringit down here, im gunna give it a full restoration with a period correct TT.

btw i have a magnavox concert grande in there too. can you see it?

stereorob
01-11-2012, 11:03 AM
Spoke to a very nice gentleman at http://www.thevoiceofmusic.com/ this morning.

He informed me that the 800 series never came with a tuner, but that there was a slot for adding one. Apparently whoever had this, added the Zenith one.

Trying to figure out what to do with the unit now.......

kam, with the x-over knobs, more than likely the speakers were upgraded early in its life, theres probubly something really cool in there. have you looked yet?

stereorob
01-11-2012, 11:04 AM
Wow Rob, if I had the Magnavox, I'd slip that Garrard into a period correct base, and stick its Webster changer back in it. The Airline's changer shows up on the VM site. Here's my next to my last console:

mag, even though its SS, ive always loved a good old astro-sonic maggie! hows it sound?

stereorob
01-11-2012, 11:06 AM
You guys are inspiring me, and causing me to start getting packed in! :D

I just brought home a six foot long Zenith/Voice of Music console stereo. Somewhere along the line, it's been modified with very heavy duty adjustable crossovers. Price was $25 in a beautiful Danish Modern cabinet with not a scratch on it.

Seller said that it didn't work, and the reason why was stupid.....somewhere along the line, someone disconnected all of the speakers. I assume that there must have been, making this 2 for 2, some external speaker hookup.

I removed the huge back to expect to find a small Voice of Music 6BQ5 amp similar to what's in the RCA I just got. Nope. Push pull stereo 6L6's, on an amp that's got to have a footprint of about a foot square. This is serious audio. And what amazing sound!

I'll post pics tomorrow :)

wow 6l6 upgrade amp?! that thing is probubly a monster! :D

magnasonic66
01-11-2012, 04:25 PM
My Early American Astro has a good sound, unfortunately it needs a cartridge and the tape input/output needs work. I can play CDs through it with a transmitter in the meantime. I have a French Provincial in the same spot right now, with the last model of the sharp pot metal arms and charcoal grey paint. The player on that was fantastic, just three months into ownership, it needs cleaning and lubing. First real Micromatic failure I've ever had:tears:.

relaximus
01-13-2012, 01:02 PM
1956 Fisher Custom Futura
http://www.videokarma.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=172854&d=1326477602

http://www.videokarma.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=172855&d=1326477602

http://www.videokarma.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=172858&d=1326477735

1963 Fisher Custom Electra
http://www.videokarma.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=172856&d=1326477634

http://www.videokarma.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=172857&d=1326477634

Dave

relaximus
01-13-2012, 01:06 PM
1958 Motorola
http://www.videokarma.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=172859&d=1326477920

http://www.videokarma.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=172860&d=1326477920

1961 Motorola
http://www.videokarma.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=172861&d=1326477920

http://www.videokarma.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=172862&d=1326477920

Dave

relaximus
01-13-2012, 01:09 PM
1961 Motorola
http://www.videokarma.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=172863&d=1326478049

http://www.videokarma.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=172864&d=1326478049

http://www.videokarma.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=172865&d=1326478049

1963 Motorola
http://www.videokarma.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=172866&d=1326478104

http://www.videokarma.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=172867&d=1326478104

http://www.videokarma.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=172868&d=1326478104

Dave

relaximus
01-13-2012, 01:13 PM
1961 Grundig Majestic
http://www.videokarma.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=172869&d=1326478286

http://www.videokarma.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=171752&d=1317334960

http://www.videokarma.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=172870&d=1326478286

http://www.videokarma.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=171753&d=1317334960

Dave

dewdude
01-13-2012, 02:21 PM
Let me admit before I begin....I don't have any actual consoles.

What I do have, however, are pulled amps from Motorola consoles. A pair of hs-619 amps to be exact. Bought them from an AK member. Completely rebuilt and refurbished. They're my first tube amps and....wow. I used to think consoles had crappy sound systems in them, the Moto amps have REALLY changed my opinion of them. Excellent, solid amp design. A real joy to listen to.

I can't embed the pictures as I don't remember the filenames, however, they're in a folder on my www...

http://dewdu.de/moto-amps

Reece
01-13-2012, 02:27 PM
Wow, Relaximus, what beautiful (and many!) consoles. Looks like a showroom, and they're all in top notch looking shape. Thanks for the pix.

relaximus
01-13-2012, 02:41 PM
Thank you for the kind word Reece. I've been quite fortunate to have obtained some true survivors. Most of these have come from the home of their original owner. All but the '63 Motorola have been recapped and get regular use. As much as I enjoy listening to my various stereo systems, there is something I find very comforting in the sound of an old console. It tends to transport me back to my childhood.

Dave

relaximus
01-13-2012, 02:44 PM
... I used to think consoles had crappy sound systems in them, the Moto amps have REALLY changed my opinion of them. Excellent, solid amp design. A real joy to listen to.
I must agree. Although I enjoy listening to all of my consoles, the Moto's have the best sound of them all. Especially my big '61.

Dave

relaximus
01-13-2012, 03:38 PM
Almost forgot to post the latest edition. This one needs a bit of love. And yes, at > 68" long it's a beast!

1967 Zenith YT960
http://www.videokarma.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=172871&d=1326486954

http://www.videokarma.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=172872&d=1326486954

http://www.videokarma.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=172873&d=1326486954

http://www.videokarma.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=172874&d=1326486954

http://www.videokarma.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=172875&d=1326486954

At some point, it will hopefully look similar to this:
http://www.videokarma.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=172876&d=1326487056

Dave

maxhifi
01-13-2012, 11:53 PM
that pop up reel to reel is awesome - never seen anything like it

larryderouin
01-14-2012, 01:26 AM
Hey Dave; What Changer is on the 56 Futura. The Cabinet looks a lot like my 51 Coronet.

Larry

relaximus
01-14-2012, 08:12 AM
Hey Dave; What Changer is on the 56 Futura. The Cabinet looks a lot like my 51 Coronet.
Larry:

My research says that it's a Webcor Magic Mind TT equipped with a GE VRII cartridge. I still need to find the little red knob for the stylus selector.

Dave

stereorob
01-16-2012, 11:13 PM
Almost forgot to post the latest edition. This one needs a bit of love. And yes, at > 68" long it's a beast!

1967 Zenith YT960
http://www.videokarma.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=172871&d=1326486954

http://www.videokarma.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=172872&d=1326486954

http://www.videokarma.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=172873&d=1326486954

http://www.videokarma.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=172874&d=1326486954

http://www.videokarma.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=172875&d=1326486954

At some point, it will hopefully look similar to this:
http://www.videokarma.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=172876&d=1326487056

Dave

i actually had a shot at scooping one of these not long ago. but the flipper that had it wante too much for it and i didnt have the room :tears:

DavGoodlin
02-15-2012, 08:56 PM
Relaximus, that Zenith is a great piece and so is the Motorola. Does that have the 2 6BQ5 (center channel amp) just for the low freq?

I attached a photo of my friend's Zenith, a cousin to yours.
173337

173338

My RCA speaker has a 15" woofer, I need to find the HiFi half .:scratch2:
173339

173341

larryderouin
02-16-2012, 12:58 AM
Dave: Your speaker's' pretty much a match for my SHF-5 except she's not set up for stereo.

Larry

http://www.videokarma.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=173344&stc=1&d=1329371836

Kiwick
04-27-2012, 06:54 PM
My 1962 Italian made Philco Windsor console stereo, this beast has a Graetz OEM chassis, goodmans speakers and a Lenco L70 turntable with a Shure magnetic cartridge (originally used a Ronette Binofluid crystal cartridge, i had to replace it as it skipped even with a new stylus)

Needless to say it sounds great... not much top end since the speaker system lacks a real tweeter. but VERY warm and pleasant

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/5674/philco2.jpg

http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/3533/img1029wu.jpg

http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/6471/img1033x.jpg

http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/3121/img1028jp.jpg

ggregg
04-27-2012, 10:39 PM
Here is one I found at Savers for $20. Hoffman. Sounds surprising GREAT!

maxhifi
04-28-2012, 03:36 AM
My 1962 Italian made Philco Windsor console stereo, this beast has a Graetz OEM chassis, goodmans speakers and a Lenco L70 turntable with a Shure magnetic cartridge (originally used a Ronette Binofluid crystal cartridge, i had to replace it as it skipped even with a new stylus)

Needless to say it sounds great... not much top end since the speaker system lacks a real tweeter. but VERY warm and pleasant

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/5674/philco2.jpg

http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/3533/img1029wu.jpg

http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/6471/img1033x.jpg

http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/3121/img1028jp.jpg

This is a beauty - my guess is that if you replace the capacitors feeding the tweeters and mids, a lot of the missing top end will appear. Once they start to deteriorate, it slowly kills the top end and messes with the frequency response.

Kiwick
05-09-2012, 04:27 AM
This is a beauty - my guess is that if you replace the capacitors feeding the tweeters and mids, a lot of the missing top end will appear. Once they start to deteriorate, it slowly kills the top end and messes with the frequency response.

The capacitors are still good apparently, they tested fine on my ESR meter.

relaximus
05-09-2012, 12:24 PM
Purported to be a 1949 model, this will be joining my console collection later this month. Does anyone know anything about these? The one thing that confuses me a bit is its lack of FM. All of the print ads I've seen tout this as having FM. Also, does anyone know who may have made the dual-tonearm phonograph?

http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/5449/dsc4227o.jpg

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/5869/dsc4216e.jpg

http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/2441/dsc4214q.jpg

http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/4184/dsc4224t.jpg

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/2870/dsc4225.jpg

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/4830/207570.jpg

Dave

Electronic M
05-09-2012, 02:27 PM
The thicker arm is likely a record cutter arm for recording. That is the case for mose phonographs (though there are some dual arm philcos and zeniths where the extra arm is for LPs)

That cabinet style could be a holdover from before the ad and before they started putting in FM tuning as a standard(if that is the case yours could predate the ad).

Just my 0.02$

relaximus
05-09-2012, 05:36 PM
I think you may be right. Zooming in on the picture reveals this:

http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/2903/buttonsu.jpg

Notice the word RECORD on the left-hand knob. Also, the left-most preset is labeled PHONO./F.M. ?EC. It's looking more and more like that 2nd arm is a cutter.

Dayum, I can't wait for this thing to arrive!

Also, any ideas on what wood the cabinet is made from?

Dave

holmesuser01
05-09-2012, 06:17 PM
I bet they didnt sell many FM models at first. Around here, we had no FM until the early 1960's.

My grandparents had a complete set of National Geographics up through the late 1970's. Loved all the print ads there for the Musaphonics. They looked so regal!

Look forward to seeing what would make me want to own one... Interior pictures...

Bruce

magnasonic66
05-09-2012, 07:30 PM
The cabinet is by Baker, a very respectable firm. I can't wait until you get it either, it looks like it would blow the house down.

Electronic M
05-09-2012, 07:52 PM
betcha a doughnut it reads F.M. TEL.(short for television). It was a popular marketing gimmick before the war to sell radio consoles as being TV ready. It probably has a connector on the back to connect an FM tuner, TV audio feed, or any other device that outputs an audio signal.

relaximus
05-10-2012, 08:05 AM
Well, the mystery of the 2nd tone arm is solved. I received this email from the lady I'm getting it from:
Yes! It has the ability to record! AND it also has the original microphone! The microphone alone made me gasp as it gorgeous and huge!! OMG!!! And there's a box with 2 blank records. There is a headphone (microphone?) jack in the right storage side (seems oem) and other stuff in there too.
Dave

relaximus
05-11-2012, 04:13 PM
To say that I am obsessed with finding information about this thing before it arrives would be an understatement. I think I may have found it here (http://www.radiomuseum.org/r/general_el_60.html) on RadioMuseum.org, listed as a 1942 model having the extremely rare JM-1C changer/recorder.

Dave

holmesuser01
05-11-2012, 04:26 PM
:banana:This is going to be something different!:banana:

Electronic M
05-11-2012, 04:59 PM
To say that I am obsessed with finding information about this thing before it arrives would be an understatement. I think I may have found it here (http://www.radiomuseum.org/r/general_el_60.html) on RadioMuseum.org, listed as a 1942 model having the extremely rare JM-1C changer/recorder.

Dave

If that is the model than it is really going to be something! 4 6L6 output tubes (likely in push-pull-parallel) like my 1946 Magnavox, and a total of 22 tubes should make for a really hot receiver with good POWERFUL audio.

The down side if it is a 1942 model is the possibility of only having the pre-war FM (FM really changed freqs in 1941 because of TV taking over it's old spectrum). There are ways of getting pre-war FM sets to work (some good threads here about that too), but it can be a hassle.

relaximus
05-12-2012, 07:49 AM
Well, I got some more pics. Turns out that it is a Model 60!

http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/3816/dsc4287t.jpg

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/4437/dsc4289.jpg

http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/5010/dsc4288d.jpg

Dave

holmesuser01
05-12-2012, 11:00 AM
You know we are all hating you, with love, right now. We all want this thing.

That said, I can't wait to see it when you get it into your hands!!!

Bruce

Electronic M
05-12-2012, 02:46 PM
Dang, you done real good!

relaximus
05-15-2012, 07:45 PM
PIcked up this '58 Fisher C-800 Contemporary on Saturday. These pics were taken when I first unloaded it. I hadn't had a chance to clean it up yet and it's obvious the dial lights need to be replaced. Other than that, it works quite well and handily bests my '56 Fisher Custom Futura in sound quality.

http://img594.imageshack.us/img594/5110/14954012.jpg

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/1834/80398948.jpg

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/6516/42616197.jpg

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/9809/51986047.jpg

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/2396/62780620.jpg

http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/9184/35829571.jpg

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/1648/1003464ea.jpg

Dave

gmann77
05-22-2012, 11:08 PM
Drove an hour to pick up this Nordmende Sterling Caruso 583D for the princely sum of $20. The owner was a fellow radio geek trimming his collection for an upcoming move. The best part about this console is that all the tubes have been replaced. The only item it appears to lack is a new idler for the turntable. I'm not complaining. :yes:

http://www.videokarma.org/picture.php?albumid=595&pictureid=3263

Electronic M
05-23-2012, 01:47 AM
Tubes tend to usually be good as found in most radios, and maybe just a tiny fraction bad in most TVs.......If you find a set in the wild with a large portion of the tubes bad then you may want to worry about the possibility that some calamity caused their destruction along with other parts.

To illustrate I have a Blauplunkt console from around that vintage that had the cord cut and most of the tubes blown......After replacing them it worked great except for the AM band which is dead....Someday I'll try and track the issue down, but most likely it got hit by lightning or a power surge while running on the AM band.

relaximus
05-30-2012, 04:40 PM
Got the R-20 chassis of my Fisher C-800 cleaned up:

Before
http://img806.imageshack.us/img806/3308/1003465k.jpg

After
http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/3497/1003473.jpg

Replaced the dial lamps:
http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/4255/1003506cb.jpg

Also got the turntable cleaned up, lubed and working perfectly:
http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/1369/1003482d.jpg

Currently hooked up to my Rectilinear III's as I look for replacement grill cloth:
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/2232/cimg1199t.jpg

Dave

relaximus
05-31-2012, 06:27 PM
Well, it got delivered today. I pulled the back off and was surprised to see Jensen speakers inside. The amp chassis looks to be mounted from underneath. This thing weighs more than 250lbs, so getting that chassis out should be fun. I haven't been able to find any dates codes yet. Did I mention just how cool the microphone is? :D

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/1081/cimg1215u.jpg

http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/7043/cimg1216p.jpg

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/5985/cimg1220f.jpg

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/3358/cimg1217a.jpg

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/8451/cimg1221u.jpg

http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/3739/cimg1222d.jpg

http://img805.imageshack.us/img805/2401/cimg1218b.jpg

http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/4193/cimg1219f.jpg

relaximus
05-31-2012, 06:28 PM
Here's a better look at the turntable and the record-cutting head.

http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/4200/cimg1223q.jpg

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/6470/cimg1224z.jpg

Dave

relaximus
05-31-2012, 06:28 PM
This chassis must weigh 50lbs by itself. The tubes appear to be the original 4 GE 6L6G's and 2 5U4G's. I don't think I've ever encountered transformers quite this big.

http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/8420/cimg1225v.jpg

http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/5549/cimg1226j.jpg

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/7776/cimg1227e.jpg

http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/7996/cimg1228q.jpg

Dave

holmesuser01
05-31-2012, 06:32 PM
Yippie! I want one, too!!

magnasonic66
05-31-2012, 08:14 PM
That's just too perfect for words. Are the Jensen speakers original to the set?

relaximus
05-31-2012, 08:22 PM
That's just too perfect for words. Are the Jensen speakers original to the set?
As far as I know.

relaximus
06-20-2012, 11:11 AM
What a testament to the pride and craftsmanship that Americans put into their work years ago. I thought I owned some pretty decent furniture/pieces, but this puts them all to shame. Here I am, some 70 years after this was made and with very little time and effort, it looks like this. No plywood, no MDF, no pressed-industrial-waste. Just good, clear American hardwood. And under the hood is just as robust if not more so. I truly can't imagine what it might cost to produce this today or if it would even be possible.

http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/3641/cimg1315c.jpg

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/6379/cimg1316gz.jpg

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/6897/cimg1318c.jpg

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/1831/cimg1320p.jpg

http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/6821/cimg1322y.jpg

Dave

Electronic M
06-20-2012, 03:46 PM
Wow, that is a lot of eye candy right there!

Holy crap, does that thing have a tuning eye in the changer compartment?

relaximus
06-20-2012, 08:06 PM
... Holy crap, does that thing have a tuning eye in the changer compartment?
That's used for the recording level when cutting a record.

Dave

Jeffhs
06-20-2012, 08:28 PM
What can go wrong with the cutting heads used in those old record cutters? I read a post in another VK forum recently in which a member whose family owned a Wilcox-Gay "Recordio" radio/record cutter said the cartridge in the record cutter "burned out", and a replacement could not be found. Was that part something special, even when these units were new in the (I'm guessing) '30s-40s? What if anything can burn out in them that will render the record cutter unusable? :scratch2: I'm guessing that cartridge had rather high voltage across it and was reasonably well insulated when it was new, but over time, as the insulation began to wear out and deteriorate, the voltage would arc across the cartridge's connection terminals (or even inside the cartridge itself), damaging the cartridge in an instant. Or did these cartridges just deteriorate on their own over time, to the point where the output of the cartridge, which I am guessing is crystal (not unlike the cheap crystal phonograph cartridges found in kids' phonos of the '50s), just dwindled down to zero or close to it?

BTW, I used the turntable and tone arm (the latter containing a cheap crystal pickup) from an old, beat up kids' phono from the 1950s-early sixties in a Part 15 AM radio station I had for a short time in the early 1970s, before I got my ham radio license. I removed the amplifier and connected the cartridge directly to one input of a 4-channel microphone mixer. It worked well as far as being able to drive the transmitter (a 3-tube Lafayette Radio KT195 "wireless broadcaster") well enough to be heard on the pipsqueak output signal, fed to a 10-foot length of wire in my basement. I doubt, however, if I'd have had nearly as good results had I used a turntable with a magnetic or other type of cartridge that ordinarily requires the use of a preamplifier stage ahead of it, to give the next stage enough signal to work with.

holmesuser01
06-20-2012, 08:36 PM
That was probably my post. Dad tried for several years to find a replacement cutting head for his Recordio.

A friend of mine that passed on a few years ago had a really nice record cutting machine, and he had the cutting head rewound twice during the time I knew him.

I'd like to aquire a Recordio today, now that I could easily work on it.

Jeffhs
06-21-2012, 12:05 AM
That was probably my post. Dad tried for several years to find a replacement cutting head for his Recordio.

A friend of mine that passed on a few years ago had a really nice record cutting machine, and he had the cutting head rewound twice during the time I knew him.

I'd like to aquire a Recordio today, now that I could easily work on it.



I think you just answered one of my questions: what may have burned out in the record cutter head on your dad's Recordio. It must have been a coil, if his was anything like your friend's record cutter. I guess those coils had a habit of burning out, depending on how much the record cutter was used. The one in your dad's Recordio, as I mentioned, must have been a very special type of part if he searched for several years (with no luck) to find a replacement. Strange. I thought those cutting heads were pretty much all alike, with one universal part fitting just about any type of record cutter available at the time.

Keep your eyes open on eBay and CL if you are looking for another Recordio. I'm sure they turn up on either site now and then.

Jeffhs
06-21-2012, 12:15 AM
For Holmesuser01:

I saw a W/G Recordio on eBay just a minute or so ago. Search the eBay site using keyword "wilcox-gay" to see the listings. There is at least one listing for a portable version of the unit. There are also several listings for discs recorded on these machines.

holmesuser01
06-21-2012, 08:05 AM
Thanks for the heads-up on the eGray listing. I'll watch it.

Bruce

NewVista
06-24-2012, 07:49 AM
1959 Zenith

NewVista
06-26-2012, 05:37 PM
Blonde Philco (Electrostatic satellite spkrs + center-channel LF drvr) , early 60s.

holmesuser01
06-26-2012, 06:21 PM
Blonde Philco (Electrostatic satellite spkrs + center-channel LF drvr) , early 60s.

Interesting. I've never seen one of these!

relaximus
06-27-2012, 02:47 PM
Blonde Philco (Electrostatic satellite spkrs + center-channel LF drvr) , early 60s.
Very cool! Do the satellites work?

Dave

zenithfan1
06-28-2012, 02:03 AM
Can we see a pic of the whole thing?? I love console Hi-Fi. I have a '62 Motorola 3 channel and LOVE it :smsex: http://videokarma.org/showthread.php?t=169924

relaximus
06-28-2012, 12:43 PM
... I have a '62 Motorola 3 channel and LOVE it :smsex: http://videokarma.org/showthread.php?t=169924
That's one of my favorite Moto's!

Dave

NewVista
06-28-2012, 02:03 PM
Philico's ESL Satellites either sit in little lower spaces &
fire thru cream grille fabric doors or expand outward w/
supplied extender cables. (note 12" common woofer
in top left of cabinet)

NewVista
06-28-2012, 02:06 PM
I have a '62 Motorola 3 channel

Does your Motorola have same bevelled grilles/pilasters as this one ?

Edit: Just caught the link to your model: Different Cabinet , but same
massive 3 ch PP 6V6 chassis and multiple speaker complement !

NewVista
06-28-2012, 02:25 PM
Finally have pic of '59 Zenith up (scroll up to post)
It's P/P 6BQ5 Stereo + Mono FM w/ variable reverb
Stunning French Provincial cabinet.
Have replaced all wax paper caps so she runs well

NewVista
07-04-2012, 12:10 AM
1947 Magnavox has FM option, strong P/P 6L6 Amp, dual 12" EM speakers

radiotvnut
07-04-2012, 01:55 AM
These are all fine looking models. One day, I'll get together some pictures of mine.

radiotvnut
07-04-2012, 04:19 PM
Here are two I just picked up. The first one is a '68 Magnavox Astro-Sonic that an elderly couple at my church gave me because they are wanting to move to an assisted living center. The next one is a GE from around '46-'47 that has the early version of their VR magnetic cartridge in it.


http://i538.photobucket.com/albums/ff341/radiotvnut/magnavox005.jpg

http://i538.photobucket.com/albums/ff341/radiotvnut/magnavox002.jpg

http://i538.photobucket.com/albums/ff341/radiotvnut/magnavox003.jpg

http://i538.photobucket.com/albums/ff341/radiotvnut/magnavox004.jpg

radiotvnut
07-04-2012, 04:22 PM
Here's a BOTL '66 Arvin solid state consolette record player with a BSR record changer.


http://i538.photobucket.com/albums/ff341/radiotvnut/2006_0203arvin0001.jpg

radiotvnut
07-04-2012, 04:25 PM
Cheap Tonecrest console from '64.
http://i538.photobucket.com/albums/ff341/radiotvnut/2011_1126tonecrest0001.jpg

http://i538.photobucket.com/albums/ff341/radiotvnut/2011_1126tonecrest0002.jpg

http://i538.photobucket.com/albums/ff341/radiotvnut/2011_1126tonecrest0003.jpg

http://i538.photobucket.com/albums/ff341/radiotvnut/2011_1126tonecrest0004.jpg

http://i538.photobucket.com/albums/ff341/radiotvnut/2011_1126tonecrest0005.jpg

http://i538.photobucket.com/albums/ff341/radiotvnut/2011_1126tonecrest0006.jpg

radiotvnut
07-04-2012, 04:29 PM
Probably the nicest console I own, a 1960 Motorola.



http://i538.photobucket.com/albums/ff341/radiotvnut/2011_0226motorola0001.jpg

http://i538.photobucket.com/albums/ff341/radiotvnut/2011_0226motorola0002.jpg

http://i538.photobucket.com/albums/ff341/radiotvnut/2011_0226motorola0003.jpg

http://i538.photobucket.com/albums/ff341/radiotvnut/2011_0226motorola0004.jpg

http://i538.photobucket.com/albums/ff341/radiotvnut/2011_0226motorola0005.jpg

http://i538.photobucket.com/albums/ff341/radiotvnut/2011_0226motorola0006.jpg

radiotvnut
07-04-2012, 04:31 PM
1960 GE Phonograph console

http://i538.photobucket.com/albums/ff341/radiotvnut/2011_0122stereo0003.jpg

http://i538.photobucket.com/albums/ff341/radiotvnut/2011_0122stereo0004.jpg

http://i538.photobucket.com/albums/ff341/radiotvnut/2011_0122stereo0005.jpg

http://i538.photobucket.com/albums/ff341/radiotvnut/2011_0122stereo0006.jpg

radiotvnut
07-04-2012, 04:32 PM
Early '60's Packard-Bell console.

http://i538.photobucket.com/albums/ff341/radiotvnut/2010_1102sylvania0001.jpg

http://i538.photobucket.com/albums/ff341/radiotvnut/2010_1102sylvania0002.jpg

http://i538.photobucket.com/albums/ff341/radiotvnut/2010_1102sylvania0003.jpg

radiotvnut
07-04-2012, 04:34 PM
Circa 1957 Magnavox mono record player consolette.

http://i538.photobucket.com/albums/ff341/radiotvnut/2009_0905magnavox0005.jpg

http://i538.photobucket.com/albums/ff341/radiotvnut/2009_0905magnavox0004.jpg

http://i538.photobucket.com/albums/ff341/radiotvnut/2009_0905magnavox0003.jpg

http://i538.photobucket.com/albums/ff341/radiotvnut/2009_0905magnavox0001.jpg

http://i538.photobucket.com/albums/ff341/radiotvnut/2009_0905magnavox0002.jpg

radiotvnut
07-04-2012, 04:36 PM
1960 Magnavox console.


http://i538.photobucket.com/albums/ff341/radiotvnut/2009_0203magna0001.jpg

http://i538.photobucket.com/albums/ff341/radiotvnut/2009_0203magna0002.jpg

http://i538.photobucket.com/albums/ff341/radiotvnut/2009_0203magna0003.jpg

http://i538.photobucket.com/albums/ff341/radiotvnut/2009_0203magna0004.jpg

NewVista
07-04-2012, 11:28 PM
I like these historic pieces that recapture an era
The BIG Motorola's offered serious sound for an aspiring
affluent mid century middle class.
Inspires me to get my Motorola running (one advantage is
they use ceramic Caps, so no paper caps to change)

DavGoodlin
09-14-2012, 11:23 AM
Model SC374K from 1971. This seems to be the only appropriate location to post. Price tag says $25. :yes:
I know its not a tube set but it is very clean looking early American cabinet, stamped on back " cabinet made in Canada" and has a Garrard turntable and slider vol-bass-treble controls.

I was going by the Goodwill near home the other day and it was calling to me "help- here I am, old and lonely - nobody likes me here among the BPC"

I will post pics, visiting it for 2nd time on way home.

Sylvania anything is rarely found here and IMAO, unfairly
underrated, with GE getting way too much credit and sales.

Should I rescue it?:scratch2:
176184

176185

176186

Phototone
11-14-2012, 10:36 AM
What can go wrong with the cutting heads used in those old record cutters?

There were 2 types of cutter-heads used in home record recorders. Probably the most common was a Crystal cutter head, which used a Rochelle salt crystal similar to the crystal in common phonograph cartridges of the period, only much larger. It would deform under voltage and thru a mechanical link to the cutter stylus provide the drive to cut the signal in the acetate blank disc. As with all Crystal (not ceramic) cartridges, the crystal element deteriorates with time and in most cases is not useable at this point.

The other common style would be a magnetic cutter head. It works just the same, and unless the coil is open should be a candidate to repair.

Both types would have rubber suspension parts that would be deteriorated and hardened and would need to be replaced. The armature that holds the cutter needle would be cradled in a rubber sleeve of some sort.

Most of these cutters designed for consumer recorders were designed to be driven by relatively low-power amplifiers, in general the same amplifier that provides the play-back audio.

Replacement cutter heads were still offered in Allied and Lafayette catalogs as late as 1965, but these may have been remaining stock.

dieseljeep
11-14-2012, 01:52 PM
:thumbsdn:Cheap Tonecrest console from '64.
http://i538.photobucket.com/albums/ff341/radiotvnut/2011_1126tonecrest0001.jpg

http://i538.photobucket.com/albums/ff341/radiotvnut/2011_1126tonecrest0002.jpg

http://i538.photobucket.com/albums/ff341/radiotvnut/2011_1126tonecrest0003.jpg

http://i538.photobucket.com/albums/ff341/radiotvnut/2011_1126tonecrest0004.jpg

http://i538.photobucket.com/albums/ff341/radiotvnut/2011_1126tonecrest0005.jpg

http://i538.photobucket.com/albums/ff341/radiotvnut/2011_1126tonecrest0006.jpg

How cheap could it be! Look at the size of that power transformer!
It's better than some of the Zeniths I've seen. :thumbsdn:

nynick52
11-26-2012, 07:55 PM
[QUOTE=radiotvnut;3040992]Probably the nicest console I own, a 1960 Motorola.

Do you have the model number on this unit? I have one in excellent condition that I want to restore but the badge is missing. I am looking for an owners manual as well.

Thanks,

Nick



http://i538.photobucket.com/albums/ff341/radiotvnut/2011_0226motorola0001.jpg

nynick52
12-01-2012, 12:14 PM
Does anybody have any information on this unit? The model number tag is missing from the back. I managed to get it working, not 100%, but working nonetheless.

I would love to have an owners manual for it so that I know what parts to get, etc. Willing to purchase.

The one tag on the back says Winner Mahogany Award, 1960.

I found the VM cartridge replacement after a long search and just installed. The sound is a little muddy, although it could be years of being spoiled by digital clarity. Plenty of bass, but lacking on treble.

If anyone can help, I would appreciate it.

Nick

nynick52
12-01-2012, 12:51 PM
I would lie to replace these speakers as well. There is a 6x9 and a 4" in each door and they are run through a capacitor. Does anyone have an recommendations on what I could use?

The speakers are wired through the hinges as contacts since there are no wires to the hinged speaker doors. Do these contacts need to be cleaned as well?

Nick

dieseljeep
12-01-2012, 08:04 PM
Does anybody have any information on this unit? The model number tag is missing from the back. I managed to get it working, not 100%, but working nonetheless.

I would love to have an owners manual for it so that I know what parts to get, etc. Willing to purchase.

The one tag on the back says Winner Mahogany Award, 1960.

I found the VM cartridge replacement after a long search and just installed. The sound is a little muddy, although it could be years of being spoiled by digital clarity. Plenty of bass, but lacking on treble.

If anyone can help, I would appreciate it.

Nick
If there's no model number on it, you'll have to use the chassis numbers, to get the service information.
Regarding the speakers, I wouldn't replace them. That 6X9, with the inverted magnet isn't all that common. Try to clean the corrosion off, using some kind of solvent. Try not to breath it, as it's somewhat poisonous. :sigh:
Also, clean the hinge pins for the best contact.

nynick52
12-01-2012, 08:56 PM
If there's no model number on it, you'll have to use the chassis numbers, to get the service information.
Regarding the speakers, I wouldn't replace them. That 6X9, with the inverted magnet isn't all that common. Try to clean the corrosion off, using some kind of solvent. Try not to breath it, as it's somewhat poisonous. :sigh:
Also, clean the hinge pins for the best contact.

Thanks. So that's corrosion, eh? I wondered what all that white powder was. There is none on the 4" speaker.

Reece
12-02-2012, 09:57 AM
Those magnet-in-front-of-the-cone speakers (the oval) were a Motorola thing. Are those the only speakers or are there woofers in the main cabinet? The capacitor is to allow only high frequencies to go to the smaller speaker.

EDIT: I just looked back and there's a hefty woofer in the main cabinet. So the oval is a midrange and the 4" is the tweeter.

nynick52
12-02-2012, 10:08 AM
Those magnet-in-front-of-the-cone speakers (the oval) were a Motorola thing. Are those the only speakers or are there woofers in the main cabinet? The capacitor is to allow only high frequencies to go to the smaller speaker.

EDIT: I just looked back and there's a hefty woofer in the main cabinet. So the oval is a midrange and the 4" is the tweeter.

Yes, there's a 15" and a smaller speaker in the center (I haven't measured that one). I understand that the woofer is mono and the left and right are stereo from what little I've been able to find out.

The mid and high range are not that great which is why I wanted to swap them out. I just don't want to make a mistake and put in the wrong speaker.

Celt
12-02-2012, 11:18 AM
That white powder is cadmium and is carcinogenic, so be careful around it.

holmesuser01
12-02-2012, 11:24 AM
I could sure use the lid off of a cabinet like the one pictured. Mine came without one, and I couldn't let it go to the dump. If nothing else, I do have the hinge for the stereo!!

I replaced the capacitors in mine. The new ones really changed the fidelity for the better, and now the power transformer doesent get as warm as it did.

nynick52
12-02-2012, 05:10 PM
That white powder is cadmium and is carcinogenic, so be careful around it.

Thanks...good to know.

DavGoodlin
12-03-2012, 03:27 PM
177106177107
Picked this up last week at estate sale across the road. Left a bid of 5 clams for kicks and of course, I got a call the next week:sigh:. I also relieved the owner of the RCA empty 12" cabinet I posted in classifieds.

It is a 1974 model but was still totally made in Indy!:tresbon: Now I need to go find some 8-track tapes :D

The speakers are a mystery as they have biscuits around them.:scratch2:

Its in dire need of a complete DeOxit treatment but I manage to get great sound from it anyway. The owner's manual claims "200 watts of peak music power", which probably means 50 watts RMS per channel at the most:lmao:

mpatoray
12-12-2012, 12:27 PM
OK I will add my Zenith 10-S-155 to the mix. I know I am missing 2 knobs, this came out of my grandma's basement, it had been in the workshop of my Step Grandfather, covered in paint and junk. It works quite well after a full recap.

Matt

ggregg
12-12-2012, 05:20 PM
[QUOTE=

Its in dire need of a complete DeOxit treatment but I manage to get great sound from it anyway. The owner's manual claims "200 watts of peak music power", which probably means 50 watts RMS per channel at the most:lmao:[/QUOTE]




A lot closer to 10 watts RMS than 50.

DavGoodlin
12-15-2012, 08:17 AM
A "wanted poster" at the Habitat ReStore led to me getting a call on this.
it says: Windsor-Cabinet by Drexel on the Door and listed as model 306H
Funny thing - it has a Webcor record player, I just need to make an offer:scratch2:
177239 177240

Jody Thornton
12-30-2012, 02:48 PM
Cheap Tonecrest console from '64.
http://i538.photobucket.com/albums/ff341/radiotvnut/2011_1126tonecrest0001.jpg

http://i538.photobucket.com/albums/ff341/radiotvnut/2011_1126tonecrest0002.jpg

http://i538.photobucket.com/albums/ff341/radiotvnut/2011_1126tonecrest0003.jpg

http://i538.photobucket.com/albums/ff341/radiotvnut/2011_1126tonecrest0006.jpg

I do like the V-M changer in it. Does it work well?

Jerryhawthorne
03-22-2013, 09:33 PM
Hi, new here and will try posting pictures of one of my consoles.

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn129/JerryHawthorne/Image032.jpg

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn129/JerryHawthorne/Image001-8.jpg

Hope this works out! My 800B was lacking the turntable and I just happened to have a Dual 1229 doing nothing. My other console is a Maggy, will post pictures if this works out.
Regards, Jerry

Nick_the_'Nole
03-22-2013, 09:38 PM
Nice work on the retrofit there. Good TT too, should do good justice for the EH Scott equipment in that thing.

Was it a drop-in fit, or did you have to modify the cutout?

Jerryhawthorne
03-22-2013, 09:45 PM
Nick, the base board actually had two sheets of wood one on top of the other with different cut outs. It was obvious someone had added a different changer after the original but it wasn't there. I removed both sheets and put in a single cut out from the paper template that came with the turntable when we bought it somewhere around the late 60's. Never throw away that stuff.
Jerry

DavGoodlin
03-22-2013, 09:52 PM
There a few turntables worthy of living in that Scott. I bet that sounds fantastic. What cartridge are you using?

How is the cartridge headshell doing on that Scott?
I have two 1009s and both give me contact trouble.

larryderouin
03-23-2013, 01:19 AM
Adding to my Stable of FISHER's....

Model 950 1963 Executive VIII. Italian Provincial. Got the cabinet for free, with the turntable and speakers. Added my 800-C, traded faceplates with a friend who had a 800-C with Executive on it.

Wife LOVES IT!!! Has the original Garrard Type A MKII. Tempted to swap in my Miracord 50H as the garrard is too noisy for me. Haven't decided yet. Or a DUAL 1009 I have laying around doing nothing.

In the living room just after re-assembly.
http://www.videokarma.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=178167&stc=1&d=1364015678

Garrard Type A MkII. Works perfectly after cleaning. The Foam between the platter's had rotted out so I cut 2 circles of small bubble wrap and used 3m 770 spray adhesive to glue them to the top platter. Works really nice.
http://www.videokarma.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=178168&stc=1&d=1364015678

All closed up and in Dining Room.
http://www.videokarma.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=178169&stc=1&d=1364015678

Left side. This one came with Record dividers. Anyone got a AMPEX 1250 R2R?
http://www.videokarma.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=178170&stc=1&d=1364015678

EDIT: 21NOV2014: About 6 months after I got the cabinet the previous owner and I made a deal where I would get the original 800-C for this console. So it is now complete except for the K-10 expander. I'm still looking for a AMPEX 1250 R2R.

Larry

Jerryhawthorne
03-23-2013, 01:52 PM
Dave, I'm running a Shure RXT-4 Cartridge in my Dual and have yet to have any problems with the connection pins. Certainly begs the question, "How does that work with the Scott?". When I picked up the console, it had a preamp attached.
Jerry

radiotron
03-23-2013, 07:45 PM
OK I will add my Zenith 10-S-155 to the mix. I know I am missing 2 knobs, this came out of my grandma's basement, it had been in the workshop of my Step Grandfather, covered in paint and junk. It works quite well after a full recap.

Matt

i used to have one of those from the indianapolis police department.

Tubejunke
11-27-2013, 03:08 AM
These images are of a 1939 RCA VICTOR Model K-80. My actual radio is actually in much better shape than this one, but the triplet image gives a better pictorial of my radio and some issues that I wouldn't mind dealing with if possible.

For the sake of the topic, my grandfather brought me this radio back in the early 80s from PA to VA. I suspect he picked it up at some auction as he was doing a lot of that back then. At the time I was in high school and taking electronics. I always had a strange attraction to radios of about this vintage and later television sets. Nobody knows why really; not even me. I was born with a desire to obtain and sort of give new life to long forgotten and neglected gadgets of all sorts, but primarily electronic ones.

Anyway, the radio came to me with no speaker and by that time I had obtained and parted a number of basket cases, so I had a large speaker sitting around. The problem that I was presented with was that many radios then had the audio output transformer mounted on the speaker with a plastic plug. Basically I was able to cobble what was needed out of a smaller speaker with the transformer and plug. I was able to transfer the parts to the large speaker and rig up a way to mount the parts. Also, the speaker was not quite as large as the original which I believe is 12", so it hangs to this day on one mounting stud.

The pictures here show the correct speaker which I would like to obtain if anyone has one that they would be willing to let go of. What I rigged up all those years ago works fine, but I am a stickler for things being completely stock with no alterations. I just had no choice back then, nor did I have an Internet or V-K. Like other electronic goodies I have posted about, this radio is 100% unrestored and works great! I wouldn't hesitate to let it play for hours on end and I do several times a year. I find examples of radio and TV still working normally after so many years completely fascinating and I am proud to own a few examples.

Last, a number of years back I cracked the dial glass. Luckily it is just a lower corner snapped off and is not all that noticeable. If anyone here has an extra dial glass I would be interested in that as well, but the speaker is the most important item.

AlTinkster92
05-23-2014, 07:22 PM
Nice consoles guys! :thmbsp:

AlTinkster92
05-23-2014, 07:23 PM
My avatar is my only console, love it though...

Zenith26kc20
11-20-2014, 11:16 AM
Picked up this Scott the other day. It is brutally heavy! Someone had removed one of the fuse holders and replaced the line cord. I just started working on the amplifier chassis. The biggest problem is... where to put it! It is huge!

larryderouin
11-21-2014, 08:53 AM
I just finished a restoration on a 1949 FISHER Model 24 Anniversary console in the georgian cabinet. See this thread on AK for details and pics. I'll get more pictures next week when I deliver the chassis's and install them in the cabinet.

http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=615901

dieseljeep
11-21-2014, 01:26 PM
Picked up this Scott the other day. It is brutally heavy! Someone had removed one of the fuse holders and replaced the line cord. I just started working on the amplifier chassis. The biggest problem is... where to put it! It is huge!

I have one just like it. The cabinet is known as the Chippendale Grande. A heavy beast, for sure.
When working on the amp and FM IF chassis, be aware of the 4 MFD @ 600 volt capacitor! It's a oil cap with PCB oil in it. I personally, wouldn't replace it.
Also, in the receiver chassis, there's a mess of, what we used to call "bath-tub" capacitors. Those are oil, as well. IIRC, the caps are war surplus. :scratch2:

DeathOpie
04-25-2015, 08:26 AM
Got this for free. rescued it from the curb before it was on the way to the dump. A quick check and it seems that one channel is out. I took the faceplate off to wash when I took the picture, but it says "Computer Crafted" on it. It doesn't have a "volume" control either. It says "loudness". Weird.
Anyway, it's a model VMT 88. Late 60's maybe?

aaronwhite30
05-06-2015, 08:22 PM
A GE E81 and Atwater Kent 60. I was given the GE and only paid $40 for the near perfect Atwater Kent.

However, the Atwater Kent needed some serious component kung fu. The person who sold it to me use deox-it on the volume control thereby destroying the control. They have a wire wound unit and ganged on it is a graphite cardboard connected to the RF front end. I had to cut a new cardboard fitting and painted it with paint overloaded with graphite pencil shavings, works perfect!

Red Raster
10-07-2015, 02:59 AM
Something funny happend on the way to a television set!. I was on the way to a job site in Armstrong B.C. and to a antique shop that had a old admiral tv waiting for me. Falkland is a small town with a collectable boutique shop on the hyway for some reason i decided to stop and have a look and soon was ready to leave, uninspired by some unattractive tabletop radios. before making it to the door a bug eyed lady looking like Kathy Bates from the movie Missery stopped me and insisted that i buy a radio that was hidden in the office. I really was not intrested but she was persistant and yes it is a console with a lovely cabinet. My offer of $150.00 CAD. was excepted and i was on my way. Little did i know what i drove off with and was to be educated as i reserched this dynatron product.

http://www.pbase.com/redraster/image/130990042.jpg
This working rare find remained intact amoung the oblivious
http://www.pbase.com/redraster/image/130990044.jpg
This phono had no usage as it's 50 cycle synchronous motor would
run faster on our 60 cycle household current
http://www.pbase.com/redraster/image/130990048.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/redraster/image/130990059.jpg
Tuning MW and SW stations on this working radio was quite enjoyable
http://www.pbase.com/redraster/image/130990070.jpg
Bottom of image; LF59 amplifier with PP3/250 triodes, coveted by audiofiles
http://www.pbase.com/redraster/image/130990078.jpg
The money shot, These valves have fetched 200+ Pounds apiece!
http://www.pbase.com/redraster/image/130990080.jpg
Image; T69A tuner/preamp
http://www.pbase.com/redraster/image/130990096.jpg
Image;A fine crafted back cover completes the cabinet
http://www.pbase.com/redraster/image/130990102.jpg
Rich sound and luxurious cabinetry worthy of a bold statement
"The supreme Reproducer"

vts1134
10-07-2015, 08:19 AM
:jawdrop:

That's quite a beauty!

zombie1210
04-25-2018, 07:04 PM
Sparton 1867 Triolian. From 1937


https://i.imgur.com/MSAwmqG.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/1hjmasY.jpg?1

JManX
04-11-2019, 05:45 PM
Nice! I have a 1960s GE Console Record player stereo radio thing. The speakers from it are gone, so I'm thinking of just connecting some new ones. It uses those RCA Left-Right Connectors

Dude111
04-12-2019, 04:52 PM
I love this thread everyone!!!!!!!

petervv
12-03-2019, 03:13 PM
Zenith 7S363 and 9S367 from 1939 and a 8S463 from 1940

decojoe67
01-10-2020, 08:18 AM
My 1937 Zenith 8S154 (my fav radio), 1939 Zenith 9S367, 1930 Philco 70 "Baby Grand" mini console, and a rare 1937 Wilcox-Gay A-19. All work very nicely.

Titan1a
01-10-2020, 10:29 PM
I have a Zenith 7S363, 11S474 (broken), Philco 37-665B, 116B-2 (in shop), and Zenith K731. Don't ask about my cassette decks!

maicodoug
07-28-2021, 10:39 AM
Found this in fb market place last Saturday. Been looking for a Zenith x960 forever. Too bad this forum requires one to post their pics somewhere else....anyway everything works after some "fiddling". Caps replacement next after re-finish the walnut veneer, with oil. - Doug

init4fun
07-28-2021, 05:27 PM
.....Too bad this forum requires one to post their pics somewhere else....

Hi Doug, I'm not quite sure what your talking about WRT having to be posting pics somewhere else, here's a pic I'm posting right here, The Electronic Liquid that might as well be liquid gold (price some sometime) :D

ARC Tech-109
08-05-2021, 05:51 PM
Wow there's a lot of very nice consoles still around and what really stands out is the stewardship, all of you really have your heart in them.
At present I have a 1948 Philco (48-1264) "modern" FM band upright with the flip down 78 turntable, a mid 30's United Motors Delco R-1160 that followed me home and a 1970 Astro Sonic combo that is on the audiokarma sister site (https://audiokarma.org/forums/index.php?threads/lets-see-those-vintage-console-cabinets.950547/page-2#post-14905102) that has been in the family since new. I have an opportunity to get a Zenith upright (463) but I'm out of room! It's a "working" upright that needs a full restoration but being complete and free to haul I'm making arrangements.

Keep up the great work and preserve the real American history.

Telecolor 3007
03-31-2022, 10:49 AM
Does the external loduspeakers of the "MagnaVox" AstroSonic camed with the console or they are bought separately?
@ Red Raster : that one of a kind console to have in a house (even in an apartament). But for what country it was made since it was made for 50 Cycles (Hertz), not 60? British made?