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ANTIQUE PICTURE TUBE RECEIVER SCOTT PROJECTION TV

OVERVIEW:

The Scott TV appears to be the model 6T11(there is no model number on it at all), in this case is a television from the late 1940's built by Scott Radio Laboratories from Chicago Illinois.
This table top television functions by using a vertical tube to project the received image to a mirror which then reflects the image onto a ground glass screen for viewing.

SPECIFICATIONS:

* Scott projection TV
* Black & white television, channels 2 - 13
* 31 tubes, UNTESTED
* Controls: focus, brightness, contrast, volume
* Ground glass screen size: 19" wide x 13" high, 23" diagonal size
* Wooden chassis
* Overall dimensions: 25" width x 22.5" depth x 14.5" height
* Input power: 105 - 125 volts AC 60 Hz, 1.9 amps rating

Unit appears to be complete, still might have some parts missing, tubes are untested, comes with everything as pictured.

Also comes with photofact folders with a large folded schematics for the TV, adjustment of optical system, dissassembly instructions, removal of projection tube, parts list and description.

GOOD CONDITION! vintage condition, has some scratches, overall pretty clean and good cosmetics for it's age. Viewing screen(frosted glass) has some damage with faded painting on.

USED, UNTESTED, NEEDS WORK, SOLD AS FOUND.

FREIGHT SHIPPING AT YOUR EXPENSE OR LOCAL PICK UP ONLY.

Tritium Electronics: 414-475-007, www.beercityaudio.com

Location: MILWAUKEE WI
it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests

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Seems overpriced by a factor of 5 to me?
Otherwise, nice set.

Odd that it's in Milwaukee, but he's posting on the LA craigslist. Maybe he figures there are wealthier collectors on the coast ?

Then again it could be a scam, there's lots of that going around on craigslist.

The owner contacted me months ago wanting to sell the set. We exchanged a few emails. He never did state a price, and got huffy when I mentioned that this heavy, fragile item would need to be shipped in more than one container, since I'm located halfway across the USA.

His parting shot was a crack about not being interested in any "lowball offers." I got the impression that his business is a mixture of audiophool junk and glorified pawnshop.

Phil Nelson

They have it list at this site as well: http://www.beercityaudio.com/index.php/antique-picture-tube-receiver-scott-projection-tv-6t11.html

I wouldn't mind owning one of these but not for $2500!

Steve

I have actually seen this Scott set and met the jerk that is selling this. He is an old school electronic tech. In recent years he has been selling ULTRA HIGH end audio stuff to the tube audio fanatics. You know the kind of stuff, esoteric bizzare turntables that sell for $12K and tube amps that sell for $25K. I guess the bottom has fallen out of the market with the poor ecconoimy and the jerk is selling stuff off that he has acquired over the years. Mostly tube audio stuff and over priced high end speakers. Here is a link to the kind of BS he perveys...a bunch of BS smoke and mirrors. A lot of psuedo-scientific flim flam.

http://www.triphazer.com/Home.html

http://www.merchantcircle.com/business/Tritium.Electronics.414-475-0007/picture/gallery

And here is an honest review of the BS Triphazers performance. On a scale of 1 to 10 they rate a big fat ZERO, oh yes and they sell for $800/pair. It just goes to prove a sucker is born every day, and this guy is the PT Barnum of electronics.

http://www.enjoythemusic.com/magazine/equipment/0900/triphazerunit.htm

I have been to his place (bought some carbon comp resistors on ebay and picked them up at his shop) It's called Tritium Electronics and is on the south west side of Milwaukee just south of 84th and National by a couple of blocks.

The story is that he got the Scott set from a fellow that worked for years at Allen Bradley. The fellow got the set from AB when they had no use for it any more. The interesting thing is that the engineers at AB made a custom color wheel conversion adapter for the Scott set using a ColorTel converter adapter box. (but it seems he is not selling the color wheel with the Scott) I saw the custom made color wheel and somehow it evidently mounts inside the Scott and spins in front of the Protelgram projector window.

All this is very interesting, however the old fellow who has the set and runs Tritium Electronics is so full of himself it isn't funny. A real BS artist who thinks the world revolves around him and thinks everything he has is worth a fortune. I made him a fair offer, and he basically laughed at me in a most disrespectfull way. I told him to sell it to some other idiot who wants to overpay for the thing. The reason for my post is to warn all collectors to stay away from this con artist. He is an obstinate and arrogant jerk, and you best have no dealings with this guy.

And BTW, Last month I purchased one of these sets in the blonde finish, already restored electronically for about 1/5 the price this guy is asking.

I think it will be a cold day in hell before anybody pays $2500 this guy's set.

They have it list at this site as well: http://www.beercityaudio.com/index.php/antique-picture-tube-receiver-scott-projection-tv-6t11.html

I wouldn't mind owning one of these but not for $2500!



I hope that 'add to wishlist' button is for the seller. AKA the 'I wish someone would be stupid enough to pay $2500 for this thing!' button.

:D

Those Trip Hazer folks (the way I like to spell it!! :D ) are just suede-shoe tricksters. Never trust anybody who wants lots of money from you and can't spell (they keep using it's as a possessive instead of the proper its in their ads.) My head was spinning after reading their stuff. I wish the reviewer had axed open a unit to see what was in there.

I'm going to show this dude's audio doo-dad to a couple of HW engineers I work with today, hoping to give them a :lmao: You'd think for 799 clams the connectors would be gold plated hahaha.

I'm not sure if this is the guy, but a couple of years ago I wrote an email to someone similar, calling his stuff fraudulent and asking him how he could sleep at night. I got into a long email exchange, and offered him this deal:

We jointly pick an independent, credible research facility, such as a university, to test his gadget. I would pay for the test. If they determined that the device made a measurable difference, I would donate $10,000 to his favorite charity. If they determined that the gadget didn't work, he would reimburse me the cost of the test and put a summary of the test results prominently on his website.

At first he accepted, then sent me an email saying that no test was necessary, since he had all the evidence he needed because so many people had bought his gadget.

no test was necessary, since he had all the evidence he needed because so many people had bought his gadget. Guys like this are great judges of human character and know that there are plenty of gullibles out there with deep pockets.

It's the Emperor's New Clothes again. All those people who bought his stuff fooled themselves into believing BECAUSE they had spent the money and subconsciously (or maybe not so subconsciously) didn't want to appear to be fools. Same people spend hundreds on wooden control knobs, AC receptacles, and thingies to elevate their speaker cables off the floor.

It's faith based Audio, you believe it works so it does.
What's to keep someone from hacking open one of those little boxes and duplicating it anyhow, not that there would be much point in it.

What really bugs me is the price of certain tubes being driven up astronomically because someone said that Black plates, or Square Getters, or Brown bases etc... sound so much better.

Funny thing is there are claims like that for almost any configuration of tube you can imagine. The ones that sound best are always the ones they are selling. :yes:

Hey Bob G. How come you only mentioned his good points? When I lived in Milwaukee, I stopped there. That was one strange bird. I knew he was a clown you couldn't deal with.

damn high price tag but cool as all hell! i never even knew eh scott made tvs let alone a projection tv from the 1940s??!!? very very cool!!

Offer him 999 for it and watch him turn beet red... :gigglemad

OOPS - it's gone...

Somewhere I remember reading that E.H. couldn't or WOULDN'T pony up the money for an RCA license to build TVs, so he bought them from a jobber & re-did 'em a bit & put his name on 'em. Not only that, but they were NOT "RCA" or "Zenith" quality, generally speaking-Kinda bad when EH Scott stuff was marketted as a "Premium" brand. EH certainly got a raw deal by the people in his company, but reading between the lines, he may have had a somewhat "Prickly" personality, & perhaps RCA didn't want to fool w/him & just told him to "P!ss Off"...

E.H Scott left the company in 1945 and had nothing to do with Scott TVs or other postwar products. Scott's chief engineer left a year or two later, to work on the RCA Berkshire.

The postwar company was called Scott Laboratories. It produced the 800B radio which is nice quality, but not a world beater like the best prewar stuff. The company was bought in 1950 by Meck, which basically milked the name for a few more years.

I thought the Scott projection set used the Philips system. Might be wrong about that.

Phil Nelson

What about HH Scott? I have a pair of bookshelf speakers that sound great.

What really bugs me is the price of certain tubes being driven up astronomically because someone said that Black plates, or Square Getters, or Brown bases etc... sound so much better. :yes:

Like these on evilbay 190508612468 :screwy:

E.H Scott left the company in 1945 and had nothing to do with Scott TVs or other postwar products. Scott's chief engineer left a year or two later, to work on the RCA Berkshire.

The postwar company was called Scott Laboratories. It produced the 800B radio which is nice quality, but not a world beater like the best prewar stuff. The company was bought in 1950 by Meck, which basically milked the name for a few more years.

I thought the Scott projection set used the Philips system. Might be wrong about that.

Phil Nelson

Oh, yeah, that's right...EH was given Das Boot B4 TV got big. My bad...(grin)

Like these on evilbay 190508612468 :screwy:

Speaking of screwy, check out these same jokers' auction for a 6X5G:
190536586135

I may like GM enough to own no less than two of their cars, but this auction will have you buying International Rectifier or Sarkes Tarzian selenium units instead...

I thought the Scott projection set used the Philips system. Might be wrong about that. Phil Nelson

The Scott 611 does use the Philips Protelgram projection unit and when everything is clean optically and lined up, the picture is quite acceptable.

I would love to see a picture of the color wheel installed in the AB set. It would probably be OK to watch in a very dark room. 90% of the CRT brightness gets lost coming through the spinning wheel.

Cliff

I gotta get out my tube caddy. If I could sell what I have at those prices, I could retire tomorrow

What about HH Scott? I have a pair of bookshelf speakers that sound great.

HH Scott is great too Nick but a completely different thing than EH Scott. Herman Hosmer Scott specialized in hi-fi's, very good ones too and didn't really start coming to market strong until the mid-late fifties. By that time, it was Avery Fisher that Herman Hosmer was chasing and catching rather than the company with the similar name. I've seen some late fifties Scott Radio Lab stuff and it was OK but nothing like it was.

I have an 800b. It is the best radio I own, by far.

The Scott 611 does use the Philips Protelgram projection unit and when everything is clean optically and lined up, the picture is quite acceptable.

I would love to see a picture of the color wheel installed in the AB set. It would probably be OK to watch in a very dark room. 90% of the CRT brightness gets lost coming through the spinning wheel.

Cliff

Unfortunately Clifff, I did not take a photo of the color wheel. It was definately a custom affair. From what I remember, it was made from 2 nicely machined circular aluminum plates. The color wheel was evidently in between the 2 aluminum plates and on the back side of one of the plates the motor was mounted. I can remeber what type of motor it was (induction or ac/dc brush type) but it was painted black and was about 3 inches in diameter. There was a "window" machined into the plates where the image from the protellgram was intended to shine through the spinning wheel. Now that I have one of these sets of my own, I can see how the color adapter probably just sat inside the set on top of the cover panel that sits above the chassis components in the cabinet. All you would have to do is position the window in the aluminum plates above the opening in the pannel where the protelgram shines through. The electronics was a standard Colortel chassis. I saw the chassis and the guy actually had the original Colortel literature that came with the Colortel unit. Sorry I don't have a photo, but if I should have an inclination, perhaps I could go and take a camera shot of it. But I would not hold my breath because this guy is a real nut job, and probably would not allow a photo.

But I would bet you could easily make one of these with your skills. The concept is very elegant and I would bet you could adapt a color wheel like this to any set that used a protelgram projector unit. The interesting part about this concept is that the image comming out of the protelgram is not very large when you are close to the protelgram projector lens and you can keep the color wheel rather small at that point. AFter the image passes through the color wheel the image expands until it is projected onto the reflector mirror and then to the back of the viewing screen.

It would be an interesting project but I don't have any expertise in color wheels. I recall there was a protelgram projector set that went rather cheeply at last years ETF acution. You are so good with this stuff Cliff, you should get your hands on a protelgram set and embark on this project. It would be a neet "show and tell" demonstration for one of the ETF conventions.

Unfortunately Clifff, I did not take a photo of the color wheel. It was definately a custom affair. From what I remember, it was made from 2 nicely machined circular aluminum plates. The color wheel was evidently in between the 2 aluminum plates and on the back side of one of the plates the motor was mounted.

Cliff, you should get your hands on a protelgram set and embark on this project. It would be a neet "show and tell" demonstration for one of the ETF conventions.

I can "see" how the wheel mounted in the Scott set by your description. I want to build a color protelgram with a Norelco set I got over the summer. That set is sitting next to the CT-100 I'm trying to re-capacitor at the moment.
Too many TVs, not enough time. Thanks for the information.
Cliff

E.H Scott left the company in 1945 ...

What about HH Scott?...
There was also a company called M.H. Scott around 1980 or so. They made a couple of large CB radios with a tube for the transmitter power output (all four watts, though they could be modified for more). Their brand name was Dak, and the radios themselves were made by Samsung before that company was the high-tech powerhouse it is now. I doubt M.H. Scott had anything to do with either of the earlier names.

I am 99% sure I met the seller of the Scott TV when I picked up a Collins branded 390 boat anchor set I bought on ebay back in about 2005.

I got to hear some of his high end audio stuff and his $10k custom made turn table. The place was an old brick factory full of shelves of stuff. He was a nice fellow to me on the visit as I recall. I had to ring a buzzer outside to gain access. Looking at some satellite photos I am pretty sure its the same building. All the specifics in the photos match my memory of the place.

I drove my 1965 Pontiac Star Chief the 200 miles up there then swung down to Chicago by Loyola College and also picked up an original Sparton console.