View Full Version : I guess the "good ole days" pretty much sucked for most people...
JB5pro 04-27-2011, 01:35 AM This documentary makes me happy to be young today and not then. I wonder if anybody can identify the stereo console? I never heard The Beatles sound awful before and while my heart goes out to everbody in it I just get depressed watching it. I guess I feel watching it is respecting those who suffered so much. Hopefully they did not know how awful there lives seemed. I guess everbody in this is dead and gone now:
http://youtu.be/uQdQPtcX9Y8
Kamakiri 04-27-2011, 06:57 AM You mean the lives of the people in the video or the salesman?
If you're talking about the people in the video, that's not how some people lived back then, that's how some people have always lived. Replace the stereo console with a 60" plasma screen TV, and you're in South Buffalo.
Replace the book salesman with a rep from Time Warner, and you're in 2011. Guess we need some clarification of your disdain, hoss.....
magnasonic66 04-27-2011, 08:35 AM General Electric stereo console, in spite of the "poor" people in the vid, the room seems rather well furnished and clean for the time period. The sad part is the man playing the record in the middle of the sales pitch, unless he was trying to dis the salesman. I was expecting a lot worse, and have seen such.
JB5pro 04-27-2011, 09:10 AM You mean the lives of the people in the video or the salesman?
If you're talking about the people in the video, that's not how some people lived back then, that's how some people have always lived. Replace the stereo console with a 60" plasma screen TV, and you're in South Buffalo.
Replace the book salesman with a rep from Time Warner, and you're in 2011. Guess we need some clarification of your disdain, hoss.....
How you can read "disdain" into what I wrote is beyond my understanding as I am trying not to assume any ill is intended towards me. My words clearly indicate that I am an empathetic and compassionate person to all in the film. I am such to all everywhere, in all walks of life and in all time periods.
My sharing the film is about wanting others to consider helping others live better before they die.
Both the very hospitable customers and the salesman deserved better lives as I can tell they are all good people to say the least.
I am aware that many look down upon the poor and uneducated with disdain and often hatred thinking something like: "they made their own bed and can lie in it...", etc. but I know that they had basic education withheld from them from the earliest time in their development which leads to a predictable outcome.
Apparently most people think in effect that: "Life is unfair and those who have it get it and those who don't lose... ". I assume that based on what is said and the actions taken against the less fortunate.
I defend those who are wronged whenever possible because I know that withholding a decent education is something everyone of us is in part responsible for. I am certain each and everyone of us will pay dearly for what we should do for others but chose not to, at the very least.
People who do the wrong things are either victims of our "dog eat dog" culture or they are mentally ill. Either way they deserve help from all of us who are more fortunate.
As for calling me Hoss... shirley you mean you mean Hoss Cartwright... Thank you kind sir :)
Kamakiri 04-27-2011, 10:19 AM :saywhat:
Okay, now I'm totally confused. I was trying to figure out exactly what you're shaking your head about.
As far as the sentiment in your last post, I'm completely on board:
http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=172891
That might give you a little more insight into how much I agree with you. I just had/have no idea what you were trying to say. It looked to me as if that couple was content?
JB5pro 04-27-2011, 10:48 PM I don't understand "shaking your head at".
I think the lady shows that she has had a very hard life of many disappointments and likely spent much of her adult life in varying stages of depression over many things. The man at the stereo looks content and may be just that. The salesman seems to me to have had a very sad life of loneliness chasing after a retirement that likely never happened.
When I get a chance I will watch the entire documentary which happens to be a highly respected film by a very special man who is still working on great works. Then I will know if my perception is off. I think it is called "Salesman" from 1968.
Eric H 04-27-2011, 11:23 PM Seem like the guy was trying to show off his Stereo System, sounds like he said it was a Tape.
It backfired miserably, his machine sounds like it's in serious need of a good cleaning and oiling! :D
As for his taste in music, well lets just say those Orchestral interpretations of Popular music usually suck pretty badly.
Later his Wife and the Salesman would plot to murder him and collect double on the insurance by making it look like he had fallen from a Train. :lmao:
Kamakiri 04-28-2011, 05:46 AM I don't understand "shaking your head at".
I think the lady shows that she has had a very hard life of many disappointments and likely spent much of her adult life in varying stages of depression over many things. The man at the stereo looks content and may be just that. The salesman seems to me to have had a very sad life of loneliness chasing after a retirement that likely never happened.
When I get a chance I will watch the entire documentary which happens to be a highly respected film by a very special man who is still working on great works. Then I will know if my perception is off. I think it is called "Salesman" from 1968.
If you got all of that from just the clip you posted, you're reading way too much into things and looking to make some kind of societal commentary.
Just sayin. :blah:
AUdubon5425 04-29-2011, 06:55 AM That's a c.1965 GE stereo with Porta-Fi. I know because I had that exact same set 12-14 years ago. Good quality solid state.
AUdubon5425 04-29-2011, 07:03 AM Also, they just seem to be working-class people. The house is neat and clean and not at all out-of-line for the time period. Contrary to popular belief, everyone wasn't walking around in "coat & tie" back then, despite what you saw on Nick at Nite. Perhaps the film itself, being dark & monochrome, lends a "darker" feeling overall but I just don't see why these folks are to be pitied.
magnasonic66 04-29-2011, 08:34 AM They looked a lot like the folks around here back in the day. Casual wear when you weren't at the bank or out to dinner. I'd love to have a console with Porta-Fi, got one set equipped for it, but not included.
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