View Full Version : Bakelite Motorola $50 BIN


Eric H
01-19-2011, 01:09 AM
Suddenly there's a bunch of TV's on eBay at sane prices.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Motorola-Television-/220726860074?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item336458992a

bandersen
01-19-2011, 01:39 AM
That's the same cabinet as my "Frankenrola" set (http://www.videokarma.org/showthread.php?t=248580). I saved all the pictures for future reference.

GuyIncognito
01-19-2011, 03:47 AM
I put a lowball offer in on this item, and it was instantly accepted (....??).

One more project to throw on the pile!

Let's see if it arrives in one piece...

50scraze
01-19-2011, 04:10 PM
Glad you got it, many of the sets on ebay are wayyyyy overpriced! I hope you have better luck with the shipping then iv'e had...

GuyIncognito
01-26-2011, 03:36 PM
So...yeah.

I hope you guys are sitting down for this--it showed up wrecked (the cabinet, anyway). But for a bent control shaft, the chassis seems ok (quick preliminary check). I'll probably be able to do a passable job gluing the thing back together (lots of epoxy and fiberglass) one day (when tinkering time is at less of a premium), but it remains to be seen how terrible the cracks will look. The knobs were smashed to smithereens, more or less.

Oh, well--live and learn. I certainly won't be making this mistake again. The seller is looking into getting compensation from "insurance coverage".:sigh:

Still not entirely sure what it is...I think it is a 17T-something. The label is missing. The chassis is marked "TS-314" (I think--the stamp is pretty smudged) and it has a 17" CRT.

Follow the eBay link at the beginning of this post to see the "BEFORE" pictures!!

....double sigh...

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DaveWM
01-26-2011, 03:42 PM
can't see the pics.

indeed, bakelite rarely survives shipping esp old TV's I aways pass unless is close enough to pick up.

DaveWM
01-26-2011, 03:54 PM
Ouch....

bandersen
01-26-2011, 04:02 PM
Ugh. I imagine mine survived because it was shipped without a chassis.

I believe this is the set - 17T5E

http://www.tvhistory.tv/1952-Motorola-17T5E.JPG

GuyIncognito
01-26-2011, 04:53 PM
I thought it was the 17T5E too--but the "tvhistory" site notes that it has a TS-196 chassis, whereas mine seems to have a TS-314. That's why I'm not so sure...I don't have a supply of schematics to compare the two.

There are what appear to be two gigantic bright red resistors poking up above the chassis. I don't think they are a later modification (they look "factory" to me), and the one on the left is actually socketed (using those fittings that some radios use to connect the loop antenna--you can just see one of them in the photo).

The chassis also seems to lack a power transformer. Clues to the identity, perhaps...?

Adam
01-26-2011, 05:02 PM
I've got a spare cabinet for one of these, if you want it. It's slightly different, but I think it'll work. see pic below.

GuyIncognito
01-26-2011, 05:41 PM
Hi Adam--PM sent.

bandersen
01-26-2011, 05:52 PM
TS-314 is the correct chassis for model 17T5E according to Beitman's service info for 1952.

GuyIncognito
01-26-2011, 06:30 PM
Much obliged for an extremely fast and definitive reply--well done!:yes:

wa2ise
01-27-2011, 04:32 PM
Stuff needs to be packed so you can toss the box down a flight of stairs and feel certain that it won't get broken...

oldtvsandtoy
01-27-2011, 07:43 PM
Ok on the other side of the coin, check this one out. They must have some good drugs out there.

Item number: 350434860127

bandersen
01-27-2011, 08:07 PM
Hey! They lowered the price. it used to be $1399 IIRC :screwy:

Dave S
01-27-2011, 08:31 PM
So...yeah.
I hope you guys are sitting down for this--

Sorry to see that. And it's all too common. I wouldn't want to tell you how many times this happened to me before I finally wised up. Don't hold your breath on receiving any insurance settlement (but please do let us know if it does work out for you!) They usually disallow if it wasn't packed according to their recommendations. And sellers don't EVER seem to read those recommendations.

--Dave

jr_tech
01-27-2011, 08:45 PM
When the seller sez something like this:

"I can't promise safe arrival. The biggest box I have for it will only allow a couple inches of padding at best. And this sucker is HEAVY +60 lbs."

It is NOT a good sign. :no:
jr

stusnyder
01-27-2011, 09:20 PM
Ok on the other side of the coin, check this one out. They must have some good drugs out there.

Item number: 350434860127

I want what he's smoking:smoke:
ebay can be good or bad....many times I inquired about a item on craigslist, and a common answer is " I saw one like it on ebay that was going for ---dollars....so thats why I'm asking ---- for it.

Eric H
01-27-2011, 09:57 PM
I want what he's smoking:smoke:
ebay can be good or bad....many times I inquired about a item on craigslist, and a common answer is " I saw one like it on ebay that was going for ---dollars....so thats why I'm asking ---- for it.

It started at $1200, When it get's down to $50 maybe I'll bid.