I picked up this GE 212 AM/FM radio after receiving a tip that it has the same look as a GE 810 TV. The only obvious defect is the dial pointer. I could see the thin red pointer floating behind the glass but the hub it mounts to had disintegrated. Apparently, it's a common issue with these radios.

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I removed the back and was treated to an AM loop antenna that had separated from the backer. It's made from thin rectangular stock bent into concentric rectangles.
It should be fun to glue back down while avoiding a single short!
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The speaker and dial are in good shape. Just some residue from the old dial pointer to clean off.
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I figure I can flatten out and reuse the red piece. Perhaps I can use an old cream colored knob for the rest.
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The underside is nicely charred around the 35W4 rectifier. Nothing too serious I hope.
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probably from alot, and i mean ALOT of use.

If it turns out half as nice as your 810 it will look amazing! Can't wait to see this one get done.

Here's a closer look at that blackened corner.
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My first thought was the filter cap had gone bad and the 18 ohm flexible resistor going to it had fried. Nope. I removed it and it's fine.
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35W4 tests fine as do the other components in the immediate area until I rotate this cap around. One end breaks off and I see a charred interior.
It must have really smoked when it failed!
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I'll try cleaning up that area using some QTips and alcohol.

I had been considering restuffing the paper caps until I tried melting out one of the SEALDTITEs. They're not the usual paper tube sealed with wax.
More like a hard resin tube with a paper label. Smells horrible when melted :yuck:

So, I'm just soldering in new caps. Should be ready for a powerup tonight.

With all that soot you might want to check resistance between tube socket terminals after cleaning. Some of the nasty might have got in between the wafers.

I finished recapping - it's surprising how many caps they crammed in there! I didn't have any 75 mfd caps on hand so just tacked in some 68 mfd. The correct caps should arrive shortly.
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I used some mineral spirits and q-tips to clean up the corner and made sure it was completely dry before powering it up.
The cap that burned up was going from the AC line to ground. I replaced it with a proper safety cap.
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I slowly powered it up and just got static on AM, but FM showed signs of life. I cleaned the volume control with deOxit and hooked up a proper dipole FM antenna. Finally, music came booming through :music:
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AM is still not working but that's probably because I don't have the internal loop antenna plus trimmer cap connected.

I always learn from your posts,, very nice work.

off topic: Hey, Where did you get that humongous spool of solder in your second pic?

off topic: Hey, Where did you get that humongous spool of solder in your second pic?

Surplus Sales of Nebraska. It's a 1 lb spool of Multicore SN63. It's OK, but I actually prefer Kester "44" becuase it's rosin works better. I have 2 lbs of that on the way. It should last me a long, long time.

thats what I had was kester. i went through a 1lb spool in about a year.

I've hooked up an antenna and AM is still really bad. I can tune in a few stations, but they are very garbled and noisy.

Since the AM/FM circuits share so many parts there isn't much to check.

First, I checked the tubes. The 19T8 combo FM descriminator, AM detector and audio amp was weak so I replaced it.

No change.

Moving on the the other tubes I was surprised to discover a 12BA6 in the place of a 6BH6! That's the limiter and since FM is working fine it must be a valid substitute.
I popped in a 6BH6 and there was no noticeable difference. I suppose a 12 volt filament tube might be good to keep in there to compensate for higher AC outlet voltages :scratch2:
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Next, I checked the two AM IF cans and their associated resistors and caps. They all check out including the IF windings. All measure around 15 ohms as indicated on the schematic.

Then, I tried a little aligning by ear but got no improvement. That leads me to suspect bad mica caps inside the IF cans. I popped the shield off one and discovered they are riveted to the bottom.

Retrochad repaired IF transforms just like this in a recent YouTube so I have a good idea what's involved. Only one problem - the values are not marked on the schematic or caps :(

I do have a part # at least M76J433-1 188. Does anyone know what those caps values might be ? Is suppose I could determine them experimentally if it came to that.
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I just ran into the same problem with an AA5-I imagine there is a ballpark value for these micas, you'll just have to align the if slugs again.

I did some experimenting with loop antennas and the AM reception improved quite a bit. I still have some work to do on the damaged one that came with this radio though. Hopefully, once that's done my AM reception woes will be over.

I really don't want to have to rebuild those IF caps :no:

Another 212 popped up on eBay with an intact dial pointer: http://cgi.ebay.com/VINTAGE-BAKELITE-GE-GENERAL-ELECTRIC-MODEL-212-RADIO-NR-/160512582654

There are some good reference photos that I've saved to my computer.

I didn't look at the schematic, but if it's like most AA5 etc. radios, the loop antenna is a necessary part of the tuned antenna circuit and the radio won't work without it on AM. Time to glue that mess back together!

I finally straightened that antenna out! I worked from the outside in, gluing it down a loop at a time. I used 5-minute epoxy at first, but that was taking forever so I switched to hot glue.

So does it work ? Yes! I am able to pull in stations from all over. Next, I plan to tweak the trimmers and coils using the RCA WR-50B RF generator I just picked up.

All together it took about 4 hours :drool:
Definitely not something I ever want to do again!
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Good show! Like a heart or brain surgeon, one can't have coffee for 2 days before attempting a job like this...nerves of steel...

Thanks. Definitely no coffee before working on this!

The correct electrolytics showed up and I restuffed the can.
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I also replaced the nasty old AC plug. The cord is a bit stiff, but seem sound enough.
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So that's it for the electrical restoration. That leaves the dial pointer and the cabinet.
kbmuri is working on reproducing the dial hub and the cabinet will have to wait until spring.
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The correct electrolytics showed up and I restuffed the can.
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How do you get the can flange to peel back nice and even like that?

Patience, good tools and some great advice from drh4683 (http://www.picturetrail.com/sfx/album/view/22501148) and Zenithfan1 (http://www.videokarma.org/showthread.php?t=231914&page=2)

Essentially, I used a small pocket knife blade to pry the seam open. Then, I switched to a small flat bladed screwdriver and worked my way around. Getting it started is the hardest part.

It's looking great. I also see that you use the same mouse that I do. I like not having to move the mouse itself to do things.

This little radio will look nice in your collection.

Bruce

It's looking great. I also see that you use the same mouse that I do. I like not having to move the mouse itself to do things.

This little radio will look nice in your collection.

Bruce

Thanks. Yes, no carpal tunnel for me ;)

I found some time to do an FM alignment and work on the cabinet this weekend.

One of the three sections of the tuning knob was broken off when I received the radio. It looked like someone had tried to glue or melt it back together but failed. I went hunting for some glue and found this 2-part epoxy formulated for plastics. It smells, looks and feels different than epoxies I've used before. I figure that's a good sign because those others didn't work so well on plastic.

I roughed up the surfaces, mixed the glue and applied a small amount the both surfaces. Although it takes 20 minutes to cure, I only had to hold it together for about a minute for it to hold in place.
I let it sit for a couple hours just and it's good as new :D
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Now for a dunk overnight in some cleaner. All the old dirt and gunk fell right off.
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The plastic cabinet trim was held on with some metal clips. I was able to remove three of them without trouble, but the fourth post broke off. Good thing I have that glue!
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I carefully bent back the tabs on the brass bezel and removed it along with the dial glass. The logo was held on with another metal clip and I got it off undamaged. Time for some cleaning.
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The brass polished up real nice. I sprayed it with the brass lacquer and will let it cure for a couple days.
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That leaves the plastic trim piece. I've buffed it with Novus and will attempt to fill in the recessed lettering with a lacquer stick or some paint.

Time to deal with the disintegrated dial pointer. I flattened the red pointer with some heat and pressure. I couldn't salvage anything from the white plastic hub though.

So I dug through all my knobs and came up with this guy.

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I cut down the shaft, drilled it larger and cut a slot.
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Then, I filed off all those nubs, sanded it smooth and polished it up.
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Here's a test fit. Not to shabby I think. The tuning shaft itself is off center. I think there are some adjustments screws for that.
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The cabinet face was held on by wood screws just like it's GE810 cousin. That made it a lot easier to avoid damaging the grille cloth.
I went over the cabinet with Howard's Restore-a-Finish Walnut followed by Feed-n-Wax.
There are areas of finish loss so it could benefit from a refinishing, but that can wait until summer.
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Here's a before and after. I tried using gold to fill in the recessed lettering, but it was hard to see so I went with black.
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Here it is on top of my GE 810.
Yes, I'll replace that burlap grille cloth on the 810 someday ;).
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Beautiful. Its just beautiful!

The kinda job I like on that pointer! Great.

Thanks guys. I dug up a picture of a set with an intact dial pointer.
I guess my replica isn't too shabby after all.

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Always a pleasure to see your work. I hope fare half as well on some of my own projects waiting their turn.