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bandersen
09-17-2010, 09:34 PM
While the weather is still nice, I'm going to try and squeeze in a couple cabinet refinishings. Specifically, a Philco 49-1040 and a GE 810. The tops on both are badly damaged and need new veneer :tears:

Here's the original listing for the Philco at a local antique shop. My first thought was that the CRT was shot, but oh-no - that's all dirt!
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3422/3865996378_d5c3502a74_o.jpg

Arrival at my place
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4105/4999667003_7bb69b8664_b.jpg

This turned out to be the dirtiest set I've ever worked on. There was a thick layer of black soot and pine needles covering the insides. Maybe a nearby Christmas tree went up in smoke ?
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3450/3898039576_f5c01acca0_b.jpg

Here's the delightfully filthy chassis.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4090/5000272934_126ba582a7_b.jpg

Here's the equally filthy CRT. It really cleaned up nice, but all the DAG fell off :( More importantly, it tests good.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2520/3897260797_beed40b076_z.jpg http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2555/3898043738_82ee4d6a29_z.jpg

First up, I'm going to tackle the cabinet. The chassis can wait until winter.

bandersen
09-17-2010, 11:15 PM
I noticed that the top was made up of several strips of veneer. So, my first thought was to just replace the bad ones.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2490/3898124540_35fc4df5cf_z.jpg

I was concerned that the new strips would stand out too much so took it all off. I tried heat and steam, but no luck and reverted to brute force.
I saved the large scraps to use as patches elsewhere.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4088/4999766317_d432b375a9_z.jpg

My next thought was to go old school and join the edges of my veneer strips with veneer tape and try to glue them down while maintaining a tight seam. Then I saw jeyurkon's Sylvania restoration project and the large sheet of veneer he used. I inquired and found out it came from veneersupplies.com. So I ordered up a nice 2' x 8' sheet of facecut veneer. More than enough for this set and my GE 810.

First, I had to patch up all the dings from my forceful top removal. I also tightened up some loose joints.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4152/4999767495_3ea3e2306c_b.jpg

Here I've cut a new piece with a 2" overhang all round.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4091/5000371308_8a9faa6662_z.jpg

I'm going to use the technique I picked up from Reece (http://www.videokarma.org/showthread.php?t=247848) of coating both surfaces with diluted wood glue and allowing to dry.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4125/4999768055_31a5d715b5_z.jpg

I used some clothespins to make sure it was centered over the cabinet before using an iron to re-activate the glue.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4125/5000371872_231d78eeda_z.jpg http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4086/4999768601_b05289ba60_z.jpg

Finally, I carefully trimmed it down to size with a utility knife and small block plane.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4086/5000372416_8202681324_z.jpg

That left patching a few damaged areas. Here's the worst one. I cut away the damage until I had a clean edge. Then rubbed over it with the side of a pencil to make a template.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4103/4999769125_87d22426e3_z.jpg

I used that to cut a patch from some of the old veneer I saved from the top and glued it in place.
I brushed on a little clear shellac to seal the veneer. I'll be adding a few more layers and sanding down to fill the grain. I need to darken up that seam too.
I think it turned out well so far :)
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4151/5000372902_18770f2489_b.jpg

Now, how to deal with that control area :scratch2: Then on to some toner lacquer.

ha1156w
09-18-2010, 12:39 AM
What species of wood did these sets take? Mahogany?

bandersen
09-18-2010, 01:38 AM
Yes, it's Mahogany. The legs, screen frame, and control area are solid and very pink when sanded.
The rest is veneer and lighter in color. I was concerned the new veneer wouldn't match well, but once I sanded the old veneer it was a good match.

Sandy G
09-18-2010, 09:56 AM
Aww,man ! That's Bee-Yoo-Tee-Full !

ChrisW6ATV
09-18-2010, 02:14 PM
You have done another excellent job on that cabinet, both the work itself and the documentation. I also have a 49-1040, and mine has a flip-down panel covering the controls below the screen. Does (or did) yours have one as well? I cannot see any hinge points in the pictures.

bandersen
09-18-2010, 06:48 PM
Thanks guys. Nope, no control door.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4113/5002209765_e987165596_b.jpg

It cleaned up fairly well with Howard's Mahogany Restore-a-Finish. I'll see what I can do about touching up the finish in this area to avoid refinishing.
I hope to preserve these decals.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4086/5002816522_7730f5b2e5_b.jpg

bandersen
09-19-2010, 01:25 AM
Now where am I gonna find a Philco dealer :scratch2:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4092/5000370204_ec3fc31b70_z.jpg

mbates14
09-19-2010, 05:48 PM
any youtube videos on it?

bandersen
09-19-2010, 10:46 PM
any youtube videos on it?

Not yet. I have about an hour of raw footage though. I'll try to edit it down to something interesting.

mbates14
09-20-2010, 08:03 PM
i like watching your youtubes. as motion pictures are worth a million words.

bandersen
09-24-2010, 01:01 PM
I'm just about done with grain filling and leveling. I'm using clear shellac and lots of sanding. Tedious and messy, but essential to get a smooth finish.
It looks like a splotchy mess right now, but a coat of lacquer sanding sealer will take care of that.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4090/5021063780_1ce1135ae7_z.jpg

The real challenge will be matching the new finish to the old.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4149/5020481599_61b02b9bc6_z.jpg

bandersen
09-25-2010, 01:52 AM
any youtube videos on it?

Here's the first two parts. Enjoy.

part 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHWYMuP2Jl4)

part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUVDLDxS3Cs)

bandersen
09-30-2010, 02:29 AM
I finished grain filling and moved on to the lacquer. I thoroughly cleaned the control area and gave it a couple coats of Deft sanding sealer lacquer to protect it then masked it off.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4132/5038136050_69c2942c31_z.jpg.

Finally, time for some toner.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4089/5037516347_d2f9d16a99_z.jpg

My plan was to use Mohawk Dark Red Mahogany, but only had 3/4 of a can left :sigh:
That was just enough for one even coat over the whole cabinet. One more coat would have been perfect!

Luckily, I had a couple cans of Red Mahogany / Cherry on hand :thmbsp: It's not as dark so I had to use about four more coats. It's not really that dark - the lighting is poor out on the back porch.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4145/5038501192_810fc7fb9d_z.jpg

Here it is in some better lighting.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4087/5037972941_91a575a6f5_b.jpg

I think the new finish is a pretty good match for the old. I will be touching it up a bit then giving the whole cabinet 4-6 coats of clear gloss Deft.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4125/5038591058_ea96386243_b.jpg

That leaves the screen frame. Piece of cake after that big heavy cabinet.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4084/5037972821_7e44c1deb1_z.jpg

cwmoser
09-30-2010, 05:47 AM
Bandersen, your skills are impressive. Wish you were my next door neighbor - like to come over and learn from you. That old TV cabinet looks fantastic.

BTW, I really appreciate all the detailed photos and write up you presented here. If you do a video on cabinet refinishing, let us know.

Carl

bandersen
09-30-2010, 11:48 PM
Thanks. I think practice and patience is the key. It took hours to fill in the grain and sand it smooth. Now, I need to wait a few days to let the lacquer fully cure before rubbing it out.

As for the toner - you just need to practice on some scraps. Once you get the right distance, speed and spacing of your passes with the spray can, it's pretty easy.

I posted a couple videos on the project to my youtube channel. I'll put up part three soon.

bandersen
10-01-2010, 11:35 PM
A friend stopped by today and commented on the design of this set's four long legs. It hadn't occurred to me, but I guess this is a fairly unique design. Sort of a tabletop with it's own table built in :)

Were there other sets with long legs like this ?

ha1156w
10-02-2010, 12:49 AM
That is some seriously impressive veneer work. I applaud your skills!

bandersen
10-22-2010, 12:57 PM
I've been slowly touching up the control area and working on the "picture frame".

The were many dings on the slats and around the control decals.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4113/5002209765_e987165596_z.jpg

I used Howard's Restore-a-Finish to clean and work out the blemishes.
Then, I used a small brush and lacquer (clear or toned depending on the damage) to fill the dings in.
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1151/5105516984_af6405f2b7_z.jpg

Once dry, I sanded them flush being careful not to break through to the wood. It took several passed to fill the deeper ones.
A more traditional (and quicker!) method would be to melt a tinted shellac stick into the dings, but it's something I've never tried.
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1104/5104921751_510f574665_z.jpg

Then, I clear coated it with several coats of semi-gloss lacquer.
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1231/5105518494_0821040a98_z.jpg

Loads of dings in the frame too. I used some mahogany wood filler on the larger ones and shellac on the smaller.
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1216/5105517452_7096e77def_z.jpg

I spruced up the front panel with some red mahogany minwax stain.
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1163/5104922251_2f2f2a0958_z.jpg

That leaves one major task - mask off the frame and paint the inside bead metallic gold.
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1361/5105518044_0d7ece3cab_z.jpg

jr_tech
10-22-2010, 01:15 PM
WOW!!! :thmbsp:
Another amazing restoration!
jr

Phil Nelson
10-22-2010, 08:16 PM
Were there other sets with long legs like this ?
Sure, my Westinghouse H-181. Oh, wait -- the chassis is stamped Philco in the back!

Phil

http://antiqueradio.org/art/temp/WestinghouseH181An.gif

bandersen
10-22-2010, 08:22 PM
Animated GIF - very nice :D Are other Westinghouse models re-branded too ?
I've head these guys referred to as a "tabletop on stilts".
I'm a little surprised at how many variations of this set they cranked out. It seems like a somewhat primitive design for 1949 :scratch2:


WOW!!! :thmbsp:
Another amazing restoration!
jr

Thanks! Of course, I still need to get it working :sigh:
The chassis is nasty looking, but I think it's in good shape underneath the gunk.

leadlike
10-22-2010, 08:47 PM
I'm pretty excited about this resto-I have seen a lot of these, but they are always trashed. We owned a pretty nice cabinet for one for a couple of years, before giving up on finding a chassis and dumping it. They seem to have been fairly popular, so perhaps they filled a niche for people that wanted a cheap floor model (possibly cost just a few dollars more than a table model).

bandersen
10-23-2010, 01:32 AM
Aw, that stinks! Once my GE810 is done, I think I'll tackle the Philco 60 I just picked up then jump into this chassis.
I fear it's going to take a while...

Eric H
10-23-2010, 01:54 AM
That is some incredible work Bob!
I think I'll go throw my Westinghouse cabinet away now, I know I can never do a job that good. :no:

As for a Philco connection to Westinghouse, the H-619 I'm restoring in another thread has the Philco style corners on the chassis, where Philco uses the rubber isolation mounts.
I don't know if it ever used them or not though, and since it was probably a patented Philco design I think possibly they built the chassis for WH, or at least did the metal stamping.

Reece
10-23-2010, 03:47 PM
Excellent job, Bob, and great touch-up on the dial area. Whew!

bandersen
10-25-2010, 08:53 PM
Thanks guys! It all would have been a lot easier if I could have broken down the cabinet, but it's built like a tank. Lots of glue blocks and wood screws reinforcing the joints.

I finished off the picture frame this afternoon. I roughed up the lacquer that sprayed onto the inner lip so it would accept paint more readily.
Then masked it off and gave it a few light coats of Rustoleum Specialty Metallic Gold.
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1098/5116411056_8bdb24f238_z.jpg

Here it is with the safety glass temporarily reinstalled. Much classier looking now I think :)
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1097/5116411660_a72e52cf98_z.jpg

I'll touch up the inner screen surround with some "ivory bisque" AKA "off-white". They sure do have a lot of silly paint names these days.
That leaves one cosmetic task. The channel selector plate is in rough shape.
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1415/5116482148_5519466056_z.jpg

I believe the dealer would pop in up to eight tuning strips for your particular area.
How strange that the first position is labeled "1-2" in 1949. Perhaps this plate was used in earlier Philco sets too :scratch2:
The rest of the sequence is 3, 4, 5-6, 7, 8-9, 10-11, 12-13.

I'm considering fabricating a new one from scratch or perhaps someone out there has a spare one in better condition ?

Red Raster
10-25-2010, 10:58 PM
WOW! from a train wreck to a proud display set. I have three eye sores hidden in the basement, now i'm all guilt ridden.

Findm-Keepm
10-25-2010, 11:06 PM
I'ts a MUSEUM piece! With your restoration talents, you SHOULD quit your day job! Glad to have the likes of you and Phil Nelson around!

Joe L’Erario and Ed Feldman could really learn sumpin' from you!

Cheers,

bandersen
10-25-2010, 11:55 PM
WOW! from a train wreck to a proud display set. I have three eye sores hidden in the basement, now i'm all guilt ridden.

Thanks! Don't feel guily though. It's a messy, nasty process. Lots of fumes too.

I'ts a MUSEUM piece! With your restoration talents, you SHOULD quit your day job! Glad to have the likes of you and Phil Nelson around!

Joe L’Erario and Ed Feldman could really learn sumpin' from you!

Cheers,

LOL "The Furniture Guys". I had to look those names up :o

I grew up watching Roy Underhill on the Woodwright's Shop. Probably why I rarely use power tools :)

I wish I could quit the three jobs I'm currently juggling. I just don't have the time to sling much solder right now.

On the other hand, my jobs involve sitting in front of a computer at all hours of the day and night so I get to post a lot and search for more treasures on ebay ;)

mbates14
10-26-2010, 07:36 PM
you almost need a DIY vented paint booth for that kind of work, that way you could do it all seasons.

kvflyer
10-26-2010, 09:16 PM
Hi Bob,

Well, I picked a GE 810 and a Philco 49-1040 tonight. So I will continue to follow this thread and the GE 810 thread with great interest! Nice work so far. I hope I can do as well.

bandersen
10-28-2010, 12:10 AM
Yeah, a paint booth sure would be nice :)

I picked up some reproduction rubber corner mounts. I've used these in radios before and they work great but was wondering how well they would work on this heavy chassis.

Mystery solved as soon as I pried off one of the rock hard old ones. There are metal insert reinforcing them.
I slid these into the new mounts and they work great! The control shafts line up perfectly with the cabinet holes now.
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1228/5116487115_c25242e026_z.jpg

Next up, I'm cleaning the knobs. It's nice to have a complete set for a change.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4012/5121347093_ddd2ebed13_z.jpg

Note that this set has an aftermarket "channel adjuster" control added onto the contrast control
That's a potentiometer with a switch wired up like this.
http://www.bobandersen.com/images/philco%2049-1040%20restoration/channel%20adjuster.jpg

Reece
10-28-2010, 08:07 AM
What does the Channel Adjuster control do?

kvflyer
10-28-2010, 10:11 AM
Yeah, a paint booth sure would be nice :)

I picked up some reproduction rubber corner mounts. I've used these in radios before and they work great but was wondering how well they would work on this heavy chassis.

Mystery solved as soon as I pried off one of the rock hard old ones. There are metal insert reinforcing them.
I slid these into the new mounts and they work great! The control shafts line up perfectly with the cabinet holes now.
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1228/5116487115_c25242e026_z.jpg



Bob,

I have the same issue. Did only two of the rubber mounts have a metal piece in it? I only found two in mine (Don't know which locations) and who knows what has happened over the years.

While I won't be able to start work on mine, I did check the CRT and it is low emission. But that will be good for a start.

bandersen
10-28-2010, 01:46 PM
What does the Channel Adjuster control do?

Fine tuning. Seems to have worked like a varactor diode somehow. I guess they figured owner's wouldn't need fine tuning originally.

Bob,

I have the same issue. Did only two of the rubber mounts have a metal piece in it? I only found two in mine (Don't know which locations) and who knows what has happened over the years.

While I won't be able to start work on mine, I did check the CRT and it is low emission. But that will be good for a start.

All four had the metal shims. Maybe you can fabricate a substitute ?

wa2ise
10-28-2010, 06:45 PM
Note that this set has an aftermarket "channel adjuster" control added onto the contrast control
That's a potentiometer with a switch wired up like this.
http://www.bobandersen.com/images/philco%2049-1040%20restoration/channel%20adjuster.jpg

Looks like an AFC circuit in an FM radio. This can only work if the TV set does not use the intercarrier trick (4.5MHz sound IF taken off the video detector diode).

kvflyer
10-28-2010, 08:13 PM
...


All four had the metal shims. Maybe you can fabricate a substitute ?

Thanks Bob. I suspected that! And yes, should be easy with patience to make "New" ones! Great thread...

bandersen
10-28-2010, 09:55 PM
Looks like an AFC circuit in an FM radio. This can only work if the TV set does not use the intercarrier trick (4.5MHz sound IF taken off the video detector diode).

Right you are. It's a split carrier with a sound IF of 22.1 Mc.

bandersen
10-31-2010, 12:40 AM
I decided to repaint the metal outer knobs. Kona Brown was the closest paint I could find. I stripped them with some citrus stripper. Some of the ol dpaint was really stubborn so I just sanded them smooth. Then, primer, Kona Brown and a clear coat. I used Simichrome metal polish on the knobs.
I think they turned out pretty nice.
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1434/5129873741_09995fb8bf_z.jpg http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4072/5129873933_f46ac3b908_z.jpg http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1417/5129874163_a16eee04b1_z.jpg http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4088/5130383605_9a8a2b7476_z.jpg

mbates14
10-31-2010, 10:25 AM
yea they look new again.

Reece
11-01-2010, 07:26 AM
"Don't touch that dial..."

kvflyer
11-01-2010, 09:44 AM
Thanks guys! ...
That leaves one cosmetic task. The channel selector plate is in rough shape.
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1415/5116482148_5519466056_z.jpg

I believe the dealer would pop in up to eight tuning strips for your particular area.
How strange that the first position is labeled "1-2" in 1949. Perhaps this plate was used in earlier Philco sets too :scratch2:
The rest of the sequence is 3, 4, 5-6, 7, 8-9, 10-11, 12-13.

I'm considering fabricating a new one from scratch or perhaps someone out there has a spare one in better condition ?

Bob,

Can't tell you how good it looks. :yes:


It is with great curiosity that I watch this phase of your restoration. The one that I have on my 49-1040 could be a twin of yours! I unfortunately will not be able to work on it for a few months. Got houses to sell and moving to do. Not looking forward to that.:tears:

bandersen
11-05-2010, 03:24 PM
Hey, there's someone selling an empty 49-1150 cabinet (http://cgi.ebay.com/Antique-1949-Philco-49-1450-Television-Cabinet-Art-Deco-/390259742799).

Looks like it's walnut. I had no idea they came in anything other than mahogany.
http://i.ebayimg.com/10/!B7vmZwgB2k~$(KGrHqV,!ksEy+jC)vsmBM1GVLSSE!~~0_3.J PG

leadlike
11-07-2010, 04:00 PM
I've seen a number of them painted white, as well. Can't be too sure if that was ever a factory finish, or just part of the painted furniture fad.

bandersen
11-17-2010, 09:23 PM
The last item to paint was the screen surround trim.

I sanded down the old paint then masked it off from the outside. That way I could spray from the inside. Mush easier than trying to mask and spray from the front.
The Ivory Bisque turned out too bright so I switched to Navajo White.
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1020/5185750665_701cb433bb.jpg http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4127/5186352984_1930cc1370.jpg http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1038/5186352392_6e2fc2964a.jpg

So that's that!
Now, I just need to make it work ;)
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1294/5185750877_8652afc808_z.jpg

bandersen
11-23-2010, 07:39 PM
I recently saw a classified ad for a 49-1040 parts set. Only problem - local pickup much too far away. Luckily, the seller was nice enough to remove the channel plate plus tuner and ship them :) They just arrived today.

The channel plate is a slightly different style, but it's in better condition. Also, much easier to spruce up because the lines and lettering are recessed. A little white paint rubbed in will do the trick.

Personally, I do like the original gold paint screened one, but I'll go with the donor one for now.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4084/5203150754_1c87966f64_b.jpg

I don't know if the new tuner will work any better, but it certainly is cleaner. Also, I now have a complete set of channel plug-in modules - plus plenty of spares :)
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5163/5203150968_bb1cda793a_b.jpg

I noticed the front modules (osc?) are all correct 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 9, 11, 13 but the rear modules are scrambled. I wonder if someone was playing games ?
Here channel 3 and 11 are mixed.
http://www.bobandersen.com/images/philco%2049-1040%20restoration/tuner%20mismatch.jpg

Eric H
11-23-2010, 08:03 PM
Bob, what's wrong with the tuner?

There's not a lot to go wrong, a lot of the sensitive parts are located on the removable strips.

On my 1280 I removed the tuner to replace the rubber mounts, (record player motor mounts work perfect) while it was out I completely disassembled it and cleaned it.

I washed that dirty area in our parts washer at work, everything in there is pretty well sealed or made of plastic and reasonably impervious to a brief hosing down.

bandersen
11-23-2010, 08:34 PM
Bob, what's wrong with the tuner?

There's not a lot to go wrong, a lot of the sensitive parts are located on the removable strips.

On my 1280 I removed the tuner to replace the rubber mounts, (record player motor mounts work perfect) while it was out I completely disassembled it and cleaned it.

I washed that dirty area in our parts washer at work, everything in there is pretty well sealed or made of plastic and reasonably impervious to a brief hosing down.

Sorry, should have been clearer. I don't know that there's anything wrong with the existing tuner. It's just dirty, rusty and missing a couple modules.

I'll definitely try cleaning and using the original one first and pick any bits I might need from the spare.

Thanks for the tip about the mounts. I think they might work in my Philco 60 radio too. Better order up a bunch.

Speaking of mounts... As I feared the weight of that power transformer mushed down the new chassis mount in that corner. I'll shim it up with some hard rubber strip insulation.