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ctc17 03-02-2010, 07:34 PM So this is the new thing... I am seeing it all over LA. on every street. Every sense digital there have been crt sets everywhere on the streets, now someone is busting every single one open and stripping them. They take everything including the crt neck.
I guess its better than the whole thing going to the dumb but this is just messy.
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radiotvnut 03-02-2010, 07:46 PM This action is nothing new around here. It's really bad at the county green boxes (which are about to be done away with in favor of curbside pick-up). Most of what I've seen destroyed was '80's and later crap; but, I did see the busted remains of one '50's Zenith console.
This older guy that I know called me from his cell phone to say there was a '50's Zenith B&W console at the dump and it looked decent. He had no help and was in his car. Otherwise, he would have brought it to me. I rushed over to the dump and by the time I arrived, all that was left was a busted cabinet and some broken glass from the CRT.
In the early '90's, I would often bring home 3 or 4 TV's at a time when I'd visit the dump. Then, the "copper grabbers" got real active and I swear all they do is make the rounds from dump to dump seeing what they can destroy.
A friend of mine, who used to have a TV shop, would often put junk TV's outside for the garbage. More than a few times, he'd hear noise behind the shop only to find someone about to swing the hammer or proceeding to dismantle the set for the chassis. He would always tell them, "Either you take the whole set or you take none of it because you're not leaving a busted mess for me to have to clean up"
bandersen 03-02-2010, 07:46 PM I see that all the time too. They're going for the copper in the yoke.
radiotvnut 03-02-2010, 08:02 PM A lot of these TV's that are being destroyed probably worked just fine or could have easily been fixed. It used to burn me up, back when used TVs were still a somewhat hot item, to see a nice set that I could have gotten good money for had some idiot not busted it to pieces.
zenith2134 03-02-2010, 08:13 PM Pretty funny that there's a packet of smokes in one of those gutted BPC sets...
Copper thieves strike again! They'll take anything made of copper, illegal or legal....kind of crazy how bad it's gotten...
zenithfan1 03-02-2010, 08:18 PM packet of smokes.
Never heard one say it that way:thmbsp::D
We have them here too, I call 'em the "copper smashers" and boy do they make a mess. I can't wait until I catch one smashing a tv in front of my house.
They won't be happy..:no: I just missed one a while back and he was lucky I wasn't around with a bat. My house sits very close to the road so I get more pissed than most about this kind of stuff. That and I'm sick of all the kenosha losers.
Findm-Keepm 03-02-2010, 08:23 PM Although the copper prices have gone down, several enterprising folks here in Norfolk make quite a bit from TV and copper scrapping - we're talking about 400-600 dollars a week! One gent I met at the metals place gets every bit of copper out of a TV - chassis, yoke and degaussing coil. We discussed the "best" sets to scrap - he agreed that Sony puts the most copper in sets. He also likes the projection jobs - easy to gut on the curb.
He hooked me up with an Admiral black and white 15" tube portable - not much in the way of copper, or tubes - it was missing all but the RF amp tube in the tuner.
What we see as a missed opportunity, he sees as income.
Me, I sell copper from BPC sets and the occasional extension cord I find when trash pickin' - but most of my metals are aluminum chassis parts from gutted test and computer equipment and aluminum cans from my Diet Coke addiction. :beer:
Cheers,
radiotvnut 03-02-2010, 08:24 PM A while back, we had a serious issue with copper grabbers stealing the copper pipes and wiring from homes and other buildings that were under construction (and some that were already built). It got so bad that they passed a law where the only way you can sell copper at the junkyard is to show a valid ID and valid car tag. I think they also take your picture and take down other information. Once it's been determined that your copper was obtained legally, the scrap yard will mail you a check. Otherwise, law enforcement will come haul your butt to the pokey.
radiotvnut 03-02-2010, 08:31 PM Never heard one say it that way:thmbsp::D
We have them here too, I call 'em the "copper smashers" and boy do they make a mess. I can't wait until I catch one smashing a tv in front of my house.
They won't be happy..:no: I just missed one a while back and he was lucky I wasn't around with a bat. My house sits very close to the road so I get more pissed than most about this kind of stuff. That and I'm sick of all the kenosha losers.
I'd tell you to move to Mississippi; but, we probably have just as many losers down here.
About 2 weeks ago, I stuck a dud 2003 HP computer monitor out on the curb. Some guy pulled up in a clunker Cadillac and picked it up. He wouldn't have wanted to face the wrath of my Mother had she looked out and caught him smashing it. We have enough problems with garbage blowing in our yard from all the idiots in the neighborhood who don't have sense enough to tie up a trash bag.
There is one guy that I call when I have a load of crap and he comes and haules it off and acts like he's glad to get the crap. I told him the kind of stuff I was looking for and he said he'd save any that he found. So far, nothing has surfaced.
Findm-Keepm 03-02-2010, 08:37 PM A while back, we had a serious issue with copper grabbers stealing the copper pipes and wiring from homes and other buildings that were under construction (and some that were already built). It got so bad that they passed a law where the only way you can sell copper at the junkyard is to show a valid ID and valid car tag. I think they also take your picture and take down other information. Once it's been determined that your copper was obtained legally, the scrap yard will mail you a check. Otherwise, law enforcement will come haul your butt to the pokey.
Here too! Here, no copper wire bigger than 4-ought (0000 gauge) can be sold without a business registration. Keeps the utility workers legit. They also get your drivers license info when selling. But they pay cash...
Reece 03-03-2010, 04:54 PM This is so sick and a sign of the times. Druggies and other useless will do what they can (besides getting a job) to support their habit. Used to be that if we found some electronic gear on the street we would try to fix it. I got several TV's that way that we used for years. If something turned out to be unfixable, the good parts were stripped out and the rest disposed of properly. Lately they've let the hooligans out of their cages. Here a couple of years ago one cutie got his trying to take down a big copper overhead catenary line. Ditto the geniuses stealing copper out of street lighting. Darwin at work.
Findm-Keepm 03-03-2010, 08:05 PM This is so sick and a sign of the times. Druggies and other useless will do what they can (besides getting a job) to support their habit. Used to be that if we found some electronic gear on the street we would try to fix it. I got several TV's that way that we used for years. If something turned out to be unfixable, the good parts were stripped out and the rest disposed of properly. Lately they've let the hooligans out of their cages. Here a couple of years ago one cutie got his trying to take down a big copper overhead catenary line. Ditto the geniuses stealing copper out of street lighting. Darwin at work.
I don't condone the thieves, but not everyone scrapping and selling copper is a druggie or useless. I've been the victim of the copper thieves - they stole the copper flashing right off of our church a couple years back. But TVs on the curb are for anyone to take and do as they please, just not right there. I've snagged sets only to find a bad fly, bad CRT or munged tuner that was beyond economical repair - and I happily scrounged the copper and aluminum to sell. If only ferrite had a market!
I guess it's kinda like yard sales - early bird gets the worm.
Reece 03-03-2010, 08:35 PM Oh, sure, legit scrap metal recycling is OK, done it myself. I was just on a rant about druggies and mess makers. If you clean up after yourself I give my seal of approval! In fact, I had a big coil of old used copper pipe with some holes in it , about 60 ft, I think, a couple of years ago, that I got about fifty bucks for. I was amazed.:eek:
AUdubon5425 03-04-2010, 04:07 AM It got so bad with copper thieves after Katrina - they were stealing the water pipes before homes were finished and cutting them off at the slab, so a plumber had nothing to hook onto. I know of two houses near me that were sold to the state and torn down rather than restored because of this. Some folks ran Pex through their attics.
There's a decommissioned power generating plant in the city (Market Street power plant) that was (is?) being targeted - the thieves were lowering themselves down into the massive generators with ropes and cutting out the copper with torches mounted on their backs.
Kiwick 03-04-2010, 04:11 AM This was a big problem here too, at least until last year, there was almost no way to get a TV in one piece, as soon as it was laid on the curb, someone came, smashed the CRT to rob the yoke, and often also mangled the chassis to remove the large wound components.
The fact that i often spotted TVs while riding my horses and had to come back with my car to pick them up made things even worse as they'd often be wrecked by the time i came to pick them up.
I was very lucky in that i saved a really nice Phonola tube B/W before the wreckers got at it.
Luckily this doesn't happen much anymore now, Credit Crunch i guess, and maybe some changes in the copper market.
Reece 03-04-2010, 05:54 AM I read that in New York they rip the living and breathing copper right out of the walls and heating pipes in tenements. In new construction, the contractors paint the copper pipe black in the hopes that nobody will steal it "thinking" it's iron. They weld bars across the entrance doors so they can't steal the appliances on new construction. Law of the jungle.
AUdubon5425 03-04-2010, 11:53 AM I almost forgot - thieves stripped the copper wiring from a newly completed 2-mile road a few years ago - they ripped out all the wiring for the freestanding streetlights. While the circuits were hot.
Of course, the road was a shortcut through the woods to the back end of a VERY large subdivision that has turned into a ghetto, so I guess I wasn't totally surprised.
peverett 03-04-2010, 12:24 PM I was in Oklahoma recently and saw a item on the news that homebuilders there do not install the air conditioners in new houses untill someone is ready to move in. Theives make off with them otherwise.
Carmine 03-04-2010, 03:53 PM Yes... Welcome to the new third-world America where we scrounge through the debris of prior generations of prosperity so that we can sell the raw materials to more technologically advanced nations. If we're lucky, the finished goods will return to the hands of the ever-shrinking middle class, and the cycle shall continue until all wealth is exhausted.
zenithfan1 03-04-2010, 07:35 PM Sad but true.
zenith2134 03-04-2010, 09:15 PM Yep, redistribution and all that. it is sad indeed.
holmesuser01 03-04-2010, 09:48 PM Someone snatched my central air conditioner condenser last summer and left the case sitting there. The unit was in a fairly hidden place. It happened when I was out of town, and the neighbor, who lives 10 feet from where it sat didnt hear a thing.
When I replaced it, I moved it to the back of the house. It's more out in the open, now.
I hate how brazen people are becoming! It's like "I want to take what you have, and you cant do anything about it!!"
ctc17 03-05-2010, 10:44 AM I thought maybe they were after the metals in the crt guns. They are now encouraging recycling light bulbs and they even have bins in front of Home Depot.
After the few ounces of copper in the yoke....thats desperate!
Jeffhs 03-05-2010, 01:41 PM I almost forgot - thieves stripped the copper wiring from a newly completed 2-mile road a few years ago - they ripped out all the wiring for the freestanding streetlights. While the circuits were hot.
How did they do it without being electrocuted? :scratch2:
Jeffhs 03-05-2010, 02:29 PM I guess we're fairly lucky here in my small town of 3215 population as I haven't seen any ruined TVs (or any televisions, period) here, on the curbs or otherwise, in years. The last time I saw a junked TV in this neighborhood was about eight years ago. It was a 1978-vintage RCA Colortrak 25" console, all in one piece. Haven't seen anything like it here since, although now that TV is 100-percent digital I had expected to see CRT sets being trashed left and right since June 12 last year--but it hasn't happened yet.
Another thing I haven't seen much of--yet, anyway--is trashed flat-panel sets, although there may not be that many such sets in this town yet, almost nine months after the DTV transition. Perhaps a lot of folks around here are using converter boxes with their old reliable analog sets and have no intention of getting a FP set anytime soon; however, I am surprised I haven't seen more FPs in the trash here (if the truth be known, I haven't seen any such sets on the curbs yet) with broken screens since the end of football season, or sets that have been smashed accidentally when they fell off of or were knocked off their stands. My RCA XL-100 analog table set, which weighs something on the order of 50 pounds, has fallen off its stand once since I've had it (ten years), the only damage being a bent shadow mask in the CRT. I was able to repair it in five minutes with a couple of sweeps across the screen with an old speaker magnet; the set has worked flawlessly, with an excellent picture, ever since. Had this been a flat-panel set, however, it would likely have been ruined the second it hit the floor, :yikes: despite the fact that the floors in my apartment are carpeted.
The foregoing is only one of several reasons I am in no hurry to replace my TVs with flat panels--which I refuse to do as long as the old sets work as well as they do. The older analog sets were more durable and will take much more abuse than today's flimsily-built flat panels. Strike the screen of any recent-vintage or older analog set and you'll get away with it most of the time; try the same thing with an FP and the set will be made into an instant pile of junk. The fact that flat-panel TVs, in particular the Chinese and Korean off-brands (Vizio, Haier, et al.) no one ever heard of until very recently, do not last nearly as long as the older analog CRT sets did :no: bothers me as well, but that's material for another thread.
Breaking the necks off CRTs and throwing rocks at the screens of otherwise restorable televisions is nothing new. By the '90s this was fairly common in the Cleveland suburb where I used to live, but since I moved here I've only seen two TVs in the trash, the 25" Colortrak I described above and one 1980s-vintage RCA 12" portable. I did see two large stereo consoles in front of a house just down the street from my apartment about three years ago (one was a Morse Electrophonic, the other a GE, IIRC). The stereos seemed to be in excellent shape from the looks of the cabinets (no scratches, doodles or other destruction that I could see), so I guess if there are any copper thieves in this town they are steering clear of these. Stereo consoles, even solid-state ones, have transformers with copper wire in the windings, but they probably aren't as desirable as TV yokes; the latter, after all, have much more (larger gauge) wire in them so they will fetch more money than the small-gauge wire in transformers.
ha1156w 03-05-2010, 10:08 PM Here in north TX, they've been stealing the wiring between live streetlights by hooking a truck to the cable and pulling it all out, a half mile at a time. They've even hit the lights along freeways. Lots of dark neigborhoods.
The neighbor across the alley from me was renovating post flood (attic mounted water heater leaked, molding up all the walls) and someone stole his copper sink from his kitchen!
We've even had an instance of a substation that got its inch-thick live wiring stolen. The guys know what they're doing to avoid electrocution and have professional tools to do it.
Reece 03-06-2010, 06:53 AM These ruffians should be taken out and summarily shot. Just my humble opinion, thank you. If you don't want to live by the rules of decency and society, then get out of it.
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PioneerGuy75 03-28-2010, 01:52 PM This discussion keeps reminding me of this video :lmao:
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Findm-Keepm 03-28-2010, 07:16 PM I saw lots of modern CRT sets with smashed backs, and missing yokes, CRTs, or chassis. I don't think I saw a single intact TV this year.
Copper spiked after the Haitian and Chilean earthquakes - much like the cost of drywall spikes up after a hurricane. Our metals company that buys our aluminum and copper shut down until things settled back down. He wasn't going to pay high prices, only to lose it later. They settled down, but only by a margin of a few cents off the high. I haven't sold any copper recently, and when I do, it's just the cheap stuff - old extension cords folks throw out all summer and the like. Highest I've seen it was in June 2008 - about $3.75 a pound. It's getting close to that now, I imagine. It was 2.76 a pound before Christmas. A Sony XBR set gives up over 3 pounds of copper - yoke, d-coil, common mode choke, the pincushion transformers and even the IHVT - they buy those as "motors and transformers". Gotta say, we see treasure, and they see tomorrows paycheck. :worried:
This to shall pass.....this too shall pass.....this too shall pass.......
62SY4 03-28-2010, 08:20 PM In the Pgh area on Thursday No.2 Copper was $2.50 No. 3 was $1.10 small electric motors were paying $0.95. Thats an awful lot of busted TVs to pay for lunch.
Findm-Keepm 03-29-2010, 04:34 PM Just checked here - we have two yards, one which sells to the other! The highest payning of the two was 3.17 a pound for #2 wire. Could be that because we are near the port (where the copper gets shipped to God knows where) there are less transportation costs? Electric motors and transformers are 95 cents a pound here too. IHVT flybacks get that price.
One of my favorite trash pickin places is a post-WWII neighborhood with narrow streets and on-street parking. The copper crowd with their wide trailers can't fit, and so the stuff is left for the folks like me. I got my Portacolor in that neighborhood, and also a 6-year old roto-tiller that needed some TLC. :thmbsp:
Guys around here don't just go for the copper - it's aluminum and steel too, albeit not as profitable as copper. I make a mad dash on Wednesday mornings in the summer to get stuff before the copper crowd. My wife is into it as well - she trash-picked one of those plastic playhouses that was only a few months old and being discarded as part of a military move. Still, I'm in it for sets and parts (if it's something trashed already or too large for me).
Cheers,
bandersen 04-30-2010, 10:29 PM Found another one in the alley today. At least they did a neat job of it.
AUdubon5425 05-01-2010, 03:51 PM I stopped to look at a set on the curb a few days ago - it was an '88 Samsung 19" in a neighborhood where you'd think this kind of stuff would occur. It doesn't seem like anyone is yanking yokes out around New Orleans, not yet.
rpm1200 05-04-2010, 09:34 PM I don't usually see this here in Rochester (people do pick up sets, but usually no one does the smash and grab). We do have a lot of scrappers and they are apparently after steel - I threw out a stack of cheapo 90s VCRs and it was gone the next day. However I saw a good curbside yoke removal victim today, 36" late 90s Zenith (so the tube was probably trashed before the TV was thrown out). The carpet is a nice touch. I grabbed the main board prior to taking the picture.
bandersen 05-06-2010, 08:32 PM Damn scrappers got to this vintage capehart-farnsworth ! At least someone saved what they could. That would be quite a challenge to bring back to life.
http://www.bobandersen.com/images/misc/capehart.jpg
Whirled One 05-06-2010, 09:01 PM In my area, I never saw this kind of stuff happen until just this year during the annual "spring clean-up" bulk-trash days. Before this year, the scrappers would clip off the power cords (and coax, VGA cables, data cables, etc.) off anything they could find, but apparently never realized that there's a lot more copper in a TV set than the power cord. In fact, it wasn't unusual to see a console TV with the back removed and the yoke just sitting there in place on the CRT in plain sight-- completely unmolested-- even though the scrappers had made off with the power cord and sometimes even the (clipped off) yoke and/or convergence harnesses.
This year, however, it appears that some of the scrappers in the area have discovered TV yokes, as I've seen a fair number of TVs and computer monitors on the curb with their backs *bashed* in, busting off the CRT necks to remove the yokes. Bleehhh... :no: I suspect it's only a few scrappers at this point, because the "bashed-in" sets on the curb always seem to appear in clusters within a few blocks. Fortunately, I haven't seen anything potentially "collector-worthwhile" ruined by the scrappers in that particular manner-- they've mostly gone after cheap modern "BPC" TVs and the occasional computer monitor.
This year I've also seen several TVs and computer monitors on the curb with destroyed CRTs, but not because of zealous scrappers. Looks like some kids think it'd be entertaining to throw rocks or whatever at the face of a CRT TV to see what happens. Double bleehhhh... :no: Amazing how those tension bands around the CRT really do seem to keep the glass from flying too far when the face gets smashed in though.
I'll post more about spring clean-up trashday finds in a separate thread once I finally get around to taking pictures and writing up something..!
peverett 05-07-2010, 03:03 PM I cleaned out a TV shop that had many TVs with the yokes missing. It was not scrappers, this was years ago. The serviceman had cannablized the sets for parts to fix other sets.
site123a 05-08-2010, 06:17 PM There's not a lot of scrappers in my neighborhood, however this is what happens from time-to-time (mostly from kids):
http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/2/21/804535/Forums/KilledTV.jpg
Hopefully the kids who did this got some glass thrown in there faces (it's a 32" Proscan by the way)...
bandersen 05-27-2010, 11:42 PM This is the first old electronics pick-up day for the city that I can recall.
I'm expecting to find many raped sets around the city Saturday :tears:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4011/4646234825_1329b9e453_b.jpg
AUdubon5425 05-28-2010, 04:01 AM We had a mayor who liked to put his name on everything too. That was many years ago. Now everything that still has his name on it is pretty run down, beat up and/or broken.
Of course, the Daleys have been in power for so long there's probably a horse-drawn garbage wagon somewhere with that name on it :)
Rodzilla 05-30-2010, 11:20 AM yup it's going on everywhere...you gotta wonder at the intelligence of those breaking into live substations tho...yeah there's tons of copper...almost all of it live and in use,there's gotta be some particular combination of guts and sheer stupidity involved in something like that
there was even a rash of thefts last year of copper line from homes,now these lines were actually the feed lines from outside heating oil tanks...a few feet of copper line at best...never mind the complete nightmare inflicted on the homeowner who loses a tank of oil spilled in thier yard..
AUdubon5425 05-30-2010, 12:09 PM I finally spotted 3 or 4 raped BPC sets last night outside of a TV shop - they just broke the cabinets and left a mess.
Findm-Keepm 05-31-2010, 10:10 AM I finally spotted 3 or 4 raped BPC sets last night outside of a TV shop - they just broke the cabinets and left a mess.
Liability issue prevention, most likely. When my Dad threw out sets from his shop, he had to smash sets to prevent their re-use and avoid the liability issues. The military calls it "de-militarization" - we used a system:
No knobs, no cords or interlocks intact, CRT neck broken, and the back was put back on with all the screws. After a few were taken, suddenly no one wanted his junk anymore.
Cheers,
radiotvnut 05-31-2010, 11:51 AM There was a TV shop in a neighboring town that would smash the neck on most sets that they tossed. Someone brought me 2 or 3 of such sets from his trash to give me. One was a 19" Sharp with a busted CRT; but, I had a tube on hand that would fit. After replacing the tube, all that was wrong with the set was a shorted diode and open fusible resistor. I said to myself, "why would a shop attempt to destroy such a set that only needed minor repair?" I think I sold that set for $100 (and, that tells you how long ago that was).
Back in the '90's, there was a local TV shop that I would pass on the way to school. Almost always, there were several TV's sitting beside his building. I always checked these sets out and never once found one with a chassis still inside the cabinet. It didn't matter if it was old, new, B&W, or color. He would always remove the chassis. I don't know if he was pulling the chassis as a source for parts or if he was doing it to prevent someone from fixing the set.
The sets that the Zenith dealer would toss were a mixed bag. Some still had the chassis and some didn't. It usually depended on how old the set was or how good of condition the chassis was in. They would usually either scratch the word "JUNK" into the cabinet (that was often hard to explain when I was trying to sell such a set) or they would spray a blob of red paint on the back of the set, which I could deal with much better. Then, someone I know took over as the main video technician there and he saved all the rejects for me. I was probably getting 20-30 sets a month from them. Then, the place went out of business due to competition from places like china-mart and Sears.
When the same guy that worked at the Zenith place had his own shop, he said his biggest problem was with scrappers wanting to smash the set and leave the mess. He said that he's ran more than a few off, telling them, "you either take the whole TV or you take none of it and you're not leaving a big mess behind my shop".
As for me, I've never tried to ruin a TV or anything else that I tossed. If someone can get some good out of what I'm tossing; then, more power to them. I did get to the point where I'd place some kind of mark on the back of the set so I'd recognize it if it came back my way.
radiotvnut 05-31-2010, 12:04 PM I remember one story about a TV from the Zenith dealer that I picked up when I was about 16 or 17. It was a first generation Zenith system 3 console from '78 and they had scratched whe word "JUNK" on the top and side of the cabinet. Well, I brought it home and fixed it. I don't remember what was wrong with it; but, I'm sure it was a simple fix. My Dad, who was a woodworker, told me, "Son, you'll never get $100 for that set with the cabinet scratched up. Let me sand that cabinet down and refinish the top and side and then you can ask $125 and give me $25 for my efforts". I agreed and he sanded down the top. Before he could get a chance to finish the top, some guy came to look at the TV and he didn't care about the top. He was in love with the picture and wanted to know how much. I told him $125 and he pulled out the money without blinking an eye. My Dad thought it was funny that the guy bought the set before he had a chance to finish the cabinet and he didn't want the other $25.
Then, we bought a new refrigerator from that dealer and my Dad had to run his mouth to them about how I fixed that TV that they tossed and he got a real nice "well, I'm glad he could get some good out of it and I'm proud of him" speech. It wasn't a month later that they put out a Zenith CCII console that had a decent cabinet with no "JUNK" carvings in the wood. When I opened it, every module was busted in half and the connecting cables from the tuner to the chassis had been cut. Not to be outdone, I splced all the wires back and repaired the cracked modules. Once that was done, a new tripler got the set back going. And, I told my Dad to keep his mouth shut. I guess it's things just such as I described that I have a problem with destroying, or attempting to destroy something, where it can't be fixed.
AUdubon5425 05-31-2010, 02:12 PM Liability issue prevention, most likely. When my Dad threw out sets from his shop, he had to smash sets to prevent their re-use and avoid the liability issues...
Well, what I saw was a mess - I've passed that shop for years and they always put their garbage out neatly stacked, not cabinet parts strewn across the driveway.
1993ctc175 06-20-2010, 03:01 AM RE: Raped Curbside Sets
Also, I took a few pic of raping a set in progress will be posting pics soon.
zenith2134 07-07-2010, 04:36 PM I recently came across a large pile of old tv's I stacked behind my garage years ago. We were re-shingling the entire garage so they had to be moved. Mostly Panasonic colorpilot's and other 80s sets which I found and saved for some reason in 2004-05. What I did was pull all of the deflection yokes and put em in a big box after stripping them of their wires and plastic parts.
In addition to the bunch of copper pipes I've salvaged over the years, this 15-16 pound box of yokes is a nice addition to my 'copper-mine' .... of course I would never destroy a collectible or valuable set this way though.
Doesn't it say something that the copper is being saved from the landfills? :scratch2:
bandersen 11-12-2010, 11:09 PM I just found another tonight :( It's just a little Sansui.
http://www.bobandersen.com/images/ruinedtvs/sansui%2001.jpg http://www.bobandersen.com/images/ruinedtvs/sansui%2002.jpg
1993ctc175 11-13-2010, 02:52 AM Yes I have notice a TV Rapist (Scavenger) who was raping a set while in progress, I have photographed and here are the pictures
Reece 11-13-2010, 06:07 AM RadioTVNut: great stories about fixing "junk" and pasting the boards and all back together!
holmesuser01 11-13-2010, 10:04 AM For some unknown reason, people seem to think that the garbage dumpster at my movie theatre is a public trash dump. Thursday, I arrived to find about 15 silver 20-27 inch TV's all broken up and piled all around and inside the dumpster.
It took us over an hour to clean up all the broken glass.
We are installing a camera over the dumpster, and will be including it in out security systems.
Whoever did all this mess should be raped.
ctc17 11-13-2010, 12:17 PM An update...
Curbside crt sets have tapered down to almost nothing. When I started this thread they were at their peak, I would see several every time I went out. Now I hardly see any.
I guess there could be another wave after the holidays.
radiotvnut 11-13-2010, 05:04 PM I have not seen a TV on the street or besides a dumpster in ages. I'm sure the flatscreen people have already gotten rid of their CRT sets and the CRT sets that remain will continue to be used until they die.
AUdubon5425 11-13-2010, 09:44 PM Oddly, four out of the last five sets I've seen curbside were busted open. This is in the last two months. That fifth set probably was raped eventually - that kind of neighborhood, you know.
bgadow 11-13-2010, 10:53 PM For some reason folks around here haven't caught on to this. I will occasionally see a set on the curb and noboby ever seems to bother with them. I've never seen one apart. I did talk to a guy once who said he was grabbing sets and selling the yokes but he didn't seem very motivated.
wa2ise 11-14-2010, 05:54 PM http://www.videokarma.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=168564&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1289638967
I don't think I'd dumpster dive wearing shorts. The odds of getting cut on something would be rather high.
Findm-Keepm 11-14-2010, 07:19 PM http://www.videokarma.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=168564&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1289638967
I don't think I'd dumpster dive wearing shorts. The odds of getting cut on something would be rather high.
I dumpster dived in shorts as a kid. Naive, yes, but the odds of finding something outweighed my self-preservation instincts. My earliest finds were dress patterns, sold to the flea market lady for 10 cents a piece, netting me 30 bucks as a 12 year old.
At 17, I was pulled out of a dumpster by a cop who promptly dragged me to my old man, who defended me and told the cop about my windfalls from dumpster diving. When I got my drivers license, I gave up DD'ng altogether and took up curb crawling. 30-some TVs later, I'm still at it. Nothing lately for me, but the wife got some 300 or 400 new commercial clothing hangers out of a skip outside a closed clothing store. Dunno if she was wearing shorts.....:D
Cheers,
marty59 11-14-2010, 07:45 PM In my neighborhood anything is for grabs once it's placed by the curb. The scrappers always come by the day before pick up and take things whole which is fine with me. They gotta' eat too and the regulars will come by with their trucks/trailers and will haul off most anything!
I parted out a rear axle..gone! My neighbor had a junk engine block, no problem..gone too. I don't mind saving up scrap to make it worth my time but it sure is convienent with the handy haul away service!
Not that I'd be guilty if something catches my eye...
rpm1200 12-29-2010, 11:48 AM I'm still seeing TVs thrown out around here but nothing too interesting. I'm also seeing a lot of empty LCD TV boxes, more of those than discarded TVs.
Around here scrappers still pretty much leave TVs alone but I've got one guy who grabs anything with steel and cuts off power cords on anything I throw out. I really wonder what the power cords are worth vs. the gas he uses driving his pickup around looking for them...
ctc17 12-29-2010, 02:31 PM I explored this abandon minimum security prison complex out in the desert that closed down about 5 years ago and you wanna talk about RAPED.
Every ac unit was ripped apart and the coils pulled out, looked like they were pulled off the roofs with a winch. The power poles in the housing area were chain sawed down to get the transformers and light fixtures. Every single building (85 or so) was tore half down to get the copper wire and pipe out. There was a bank of crt sets mounted on the wall that had been raped in place for the copper.
Im talking about an entire small town sized institution just completely destroyed for the copper. Its like killing someone for their gold fillings. The place looked like a war zone, good photo op though.
No one is even interested in the local dumped crt sets. There is one of the 27" 90s black plastic things thats been sitting down street on the curb for a month.
bgadow 12-29-2010, 09:13 PM Last week an ad showed up in the local paper, looking for old appliances and TV sets. So I called the guy, he is covering a pretty large area, all for scrap. I told him about my hobby and he said he would definately call if anything older turned up. I offered him anything late model in return. (I have an 80s set right now that's ready to go)
radiotvnut 12-29-2010, 09:54 PM Last week an ad showed up in the local paper, looking for old appliances and TV sets. So I called the guy, he is covering a pretty large area, all for scrap. I told him about my hobby and he said he would definately call if anything older turned up. I offered him anything late model in return. (I have an 80s set right now that's ready to go)
There's a guy like that around here that gets my later model junk for the same reasons. I've asked him to save any older stuff for me and I told him that I was willing to buy the stuff if it was anything I can use. So far, all he's done is blow hot air. Comments such as, "I found an old house out in the woods that's full of those old TV's like what you want and I'll bring them to you this afternoon". This afternoon has not gotten here, yet. Frankly, I think he's stringing me along; hoping that I'll keep giving him junk. I don't mind giving him my junk, as he's the only "free" disposal option left for me. If he can make a few dollars off the copper; then, I'm happy for him. I just wish he wouldn't promise me the world on a silver platter if he's not going to deliver.
AUdubon5425 12-29-2010, 11:13 PM When I got home yesterday I saw a free ad on CL - "several old TVs on sidewalk, may still work..." I didn't bother venturing down there 9 hours after posting - in that neighborhood, I'd bet fifty bucks they were smashed up by lunchtime.
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