I got the opportunity last Sunday to pick up this 22 inch Westinghouse color set from a local collector to restore. I finished recapping it this evening. This set is the exact same model as the one owned by Jr-tech posted in another thread. It is rather ironic that two of these sets are being posted in just a few weeks of one another.

The CRT tests strong and overall the set is in good condition. I have included some preliminary screen shots. I have yet to do a major set-up. There are still some issues with it. There is a bad case of video smearing that is next to address. So far the convergence is not bad. In fact, it is better than some roundies that I have seen. I will add updates when I get some of the problems worked out.

Steve

Wow... that is absolutely AMAZING! The 22EP22 itself must have been pretty good... here we see 2 for 2 having good emissions. That's better odds than the earlier 15 inch tubes! The brightness on those tubes look better than most 21" roundies!

What can I say? Fantastic!

Now I will speculate: It has be supposed that he reason this 22" rectangular set "failed" was that the convergence was "no good". But I offer another hypothesis. The convergence was OK, but the cost of the CRT was high, and by 1958, the color TV market had hit rock bottom. By the next year, only RCA fielded a set, using their round CRT. No manufacturer wanted to spend any more money to develop or market a rectangular CRT into a color TV market that was loosing money for everyone. So for the better part on a decade, the easy to produce round CRT, funded and developed mainly by RCA, was the CRT available. It was not until the mid 1960s that the burgeoning color TV market justified reinvestment in development of a next generation rectangular CRT.

Just my theory of how it was....

Bravo!!!! :thmbsp::banana::yes:

It Is really amazing to see this set in action, and so very close to producing a great picture! Good job!

jr

OMG! What an awesome experience to be able to restore one of those, great work!

I'm floored! A joy to behold!! Darnit, I love vintage color sets! Thanks for the pictures!
Kevin

Holy smoke!

Congratulations, Steve!

Please post some more photos of the set!

Kind regards,
Eckhard

Hey, that's great news! Coincidently, I found one of the auxiliary knobs that fell off that set before (local collector) bought it from me. I think has 1 of the 3 on it, and 1 was missing when I found the set. Now the next question: How in Sam Hill did you get that out of the house?

Charles

Homina Homina Homina....(Eyes bulged out & babbling incoherently...Grin)

Hey, you're off to quite the start !! Would NOT mind owning one of these....excellent.

Fantastic Steve!!!!! The picture is looking better and better. And I know it looks much better in person than the screen shots show

When you get around to it, could you take some shots of the rear of the chassis from several angles so we can see what the machanicals of this set look like.

Do I see what appears to be a field neutralizing coil, or is it a degausing ring. Does it also have purity magnets around the front of the screen?

Nice Work Steve!!!

That is so cool, and bizarre, to see color pictures on a screen that looks like it should be B&W!

Wow, so awesome to see a 50s rectangular tube colour TV in operation, awesome restoration work Steve!!! :) Look forward to seeing this set completely restored and put together! :)

That is absolutely amazing! First I find out they made a rectangular color crt before the 15gp22 then I see two of them show up within 2 weeks of eachother, both crt's are good too!
My hats off to you on a great restore!

The Westinghouse rectangular color CRT did NOT pre-date the 15GP22. The 15GP22, 15HP22, 19VP22 and 21AXP22 all came before.

There is a bad case of video smearing that is next to address.
Steve

Steve, Any idea where the smear may be coming from? (Wondering if it could be tuner, IF, video, or some combination.)

Bob:

It has a field neutralizing coil and there is a purity magnet at each corner.

Wayne:

The smear is coming from the tuner. When I sub it I get a great picture. I am waiting for some new tubes for it. I HATE working on tuners and this one looks like a cheap one. I may try to do a better set-up with the subber in place. I will post more pictures then.

Steve

These 2 sets are a great way to kick off VK! Really amazing. Eventually another one will come out of the woodwork-my eyes are always open!

These 2 sets are a great way to kick off VK! Really amazing. Eventually another one will come out of the woodwork-my eyes are always open!

Yeah; I guess I'll have to post up some pics tomorrow when I go pick up the two blond ones, and the console version... One has a loose vertical hold knob, so I may leave that one behind :smoke: NOT!

Seriously, I want to congratulate Steve K again for getting that set going! I had it sitting here for 10 years, and did nothing with it but check the tube. He gets sets done, and WELL. I tend to take decades to get around to them, and by then, usually a more exciting project has come up. But at least I don't start them and leave them 1/2 done and sell, which some collectors in the past have been known for.

Steve has definitely upstaged a minor surprise job I did on a set at my place for the 'other collector' who owns the Westinghouse...

Charles

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Visited Steve K. yesterday. I was thrilled to see the 22" Westy in person. Steve K. has done a terrific job of restoring this set to working condition. While several problems such as a fussy tuner and some edge purity issues remain, I'm sure these will be corrected very soon. The turner may need alignment and the purity problem will probably go away when a complete setup is done as a final step in the process. I'm sure the purity will need futher adjustment after the set is transported back to the owner's home. The color is vibrant, especially the red, which appears to be a true red to my eye. The set produces a bright picture with good convergence from center to the edge of the screen. The convergence will also require slight tweaking in final setup. Even from a viewing distance of four feet small text was easily readable on the screen. It was as good an image, if not better, then I have seen on many 50's era 21" roundies at this stage of restoration. Watching color on the rectangular, much like a b&w 50's era shaped screen, was a bit strange at first. The full image is seen and even with the mask in place, none of the screen is cut off as with the roundie.
The chassis is sensibly designed with easy access to most componets and tubes and fully labeled, finger turned, no tools, service controls via a removable side panel. And, with the picture tube and chassis combined as one unit, when removed from the cabinet, there are no extension cables required to adjust or service any functions. The cabinet reminded me of RCA's entry level CTC-5 "Aldrich" model, perhaps slightly larger, Pretty much a vinyl clad Mahogany box with very little to set it apart from it's b&w cousins. As noted in other posts, no color logos or script indicating "color" on the front of the set. All in all a remarkable find and a great working example of this receiver. Hopefully, jr. will have the same good results with his 22" Westinghouse color. Thanks Steve K. for inviting me over.

-Steve D.

Thanks guys for the compliments on the restoration. Here is an update so far. I did a purity set-up today and the results are pretty good. I will post pictures of this and a few of the chassis. The chassis pictures were after I pulled out the tubes. The bottom view is of the chroma section. I am still waiting for some tubes so there is not much more I can do at this point. I touched up the convergence some but it still needs work.

Some of the pictures have lines in them which is from the camera and not actually on the screen.

Steve

Purity pictures

Yahoo!

Unbelievably marvelous!
Fess up - where did you find the time machine?

I have new respect for Westinghouse!

Excellent job Steve! It looks like you don't have much further to go to get it perfect.

Darryl

Gorgeous work Steve! I too have a lot more respect for Westinghouse, at least on this endeavor. The color is beautiful on that tube! I bet it looks stunning in person.

I've never seen a Westinghouse like this at all. It makes really nice pictures.

Cliff

WOW!!!:banana::banana::banana::banana:

I am Green and Red and Blue with envy!... gotta get to work!!

jr

That's awesome... absolutely awesome!!! :ntwrthy::ntwrthy::ntwrthy:

:grnbounce:nutz::banana::nutz::grnbounce

I gotta ask....the photo of the chassis underside... was that taken after you did your work??? Or is that a before shot?

Charlie:

That's a before shot. The only difference now is that I changed those three tubular caps. I did not restuff any of the caps.

Steve

Well, in either case, it looks like brand-spankin-new under there... as if it just came off the line!!! That set certainly wasn't found in any barn... that's for sure!

Purity pictures

I'm grabbing a red-eye to so-cal to personally make sure you didn't Photoshop those purity pics!

Pete

What really amazes me is how they achieved rectangular color with so little under the chassis.

Me thinks they may have had the better technology....hmmm:scratch2:

What really amazes me is how they achieved rectangular color with so little under the chassis.

Me thinks they may have had the better technology....hmmm:scratch2:

Area 51 technology?

Charlie, no barn. They had it in Warehouse 13!

Sorry, I just have had my fill of reality today. :alien:

John

What really amazes me is how they achieved rectangular color with so little under the chassis.

Me thinks they may have had the better technology....hmmm:scratch2:

Did they get rectangular by extending the corners, or cutting off the sides? How does the width of this tube compare to a "21" roundie?

Nice job Steve :thmbsp:

What really amazes me is how they achieved rectangular color with so little under the chassis.

Me thinks they may have had the better technology....hmmm:scratch2:

Keep in mind that's just the chroma circuit in the photo.

Did they get rectangular by extending the corners, or cutting off the sides? How does the width of this tube compare to a "21" roundie?

Isn't it the roundies that are cutting off the corners of the rectangular picture?

Oh man, I want one of these even more than a CT-100!

Maybe the pictures are deceiving but the chassis doesn't seem big enough for a color set! It looks like a B&W chassis that through some Voo Doo makes color pictures.
Did Madman Muntz ever work at Westinghouse?

How does it compare in size and heft to say a CTC7, (which is huge)

Didn't really notice this before, but looking at the top of the chassis again, I noticed they've laid out several of the larger paper/wax capacitors (perhaps .1mfd@200 or .05@600) nice and neat on top of the chassis instead of stuffing them underneath. That must make things much easier for changing caps!

I think someone at Westinghouse corporate made a very seriously bad decission back when this set was developed. The decission to scrap this color tube design and get out of color back then very likely allowed RCA to continue monopolizing the color market with roundies for years to come.

If Westinghouse had stayed the course they very likely could have taken the lead away form RCA back then, or at least prospered greatly from design royalties from this tube design.

I think it is likely that the developement of rectangular color crt's was delayed for years, while other manufacturers waited for the design patents that Westinghouse no doubt had on this tube, to expire.

What a major strategic error Westinghouse made back then to drop the production of this color tube.

The pictures you posted are nothing short of astounding Steve. FANTASTIC JOB!

Wow Steve! Amazing work and such perfect purity! I agree! If Westinghouse stuck with it they would have revolutionized the color CRT early on!

Westinghouse probably made the best decision they could at the time. Between the tooling /setup charges at Corning Glass for an all new panel and funnel plus expenses tooling up the CRT plant, it would have been cost prohibitive. Apparently CBS-Hytron was months behind Westinghouse in development and was not yet in a position to share any tooling cost. Also, demand for color sets was low at the time due to lack of programming and there were high costs in purchasing and maintaining color sets. And if it is true that these tubes had to go through a overnight exhaust cycle (a typical cycle at the time was probably no more than three hours) it tells me that rejects were high, life test was poor, and CRT engineering could foresee no easy way to solve these problems, thus putting the cost per good tube out of sight. I have been in CRT engineering for over 36 years and have been in this same position. Believe me. It's no fun. I guess that's why they call it work.

Akent36,

I think that both you and John Folsom addressed the reasons that Westinghouse didn't persue futher developement of this tube quite accurately. Perhaps the right tube at the wrong time sums it up. The other factor that comes to mind is the long term reliability of this tube. While Steve K. has done a remarkable job in solving most of the convergence and purity problems, I wonder how this receiver and it's circuits, tuner, as well as the rectangular tube stood up as a daily watcher back in the 50's. Powered up for several hours each day for months may reveal short comings in picture quality and a very unhappy viewer dealing with multiple service calls. In this regard. Most of these 22" sets may have had a short life span. Westinghouse certainly would have known this very quickly and discontinued production and promotion of these sets in short order. While all early color sets required fairly frequent maintenance, the Westinghouse may have been even lower in reliability, over time, then most. I don't suggest putting this to the test. Keeping these sets in good, low hour, operating condition as long as possible should be the goal here.

-Steve .

I'm glad it all worked out the way it did. Think about it... had the 22" rectangular tube become the standard at that time, there would be far fewer interesting roundies. This would likely make it very difficult for us to find 21AXP's, CYP's and maybe FBP's today. It's also possible that FBP's and FJP's might have not come into existence as we know today. The 21AXP's and CYP's could have turned out to be as hard to find and a 15" round tube. Being that roundies would be so few and far between, many of us here on VK would not be today.

So, I'm glad it worked out the way it did. :)

And to think I was impressed when the Sears Tower opened!

Now we know that with few exceptions the early color sets did a fantastic job.

Now if I could just rent a time machine to go back and buy a few and bring them home.

Here is finally an update on the Westinghouse. I fixed the video smear problem and did a basic IF alignment (after I had to buy a new scope).

I might have discovered the major problem with these sets. As seen in my earlier posts, the color and convergence is really very good. However, a few days ago I suddenly lost purity. The only way to get a good pure red, blue, or green screen was to pull the yoke all the way back, just the opposite of normal. As I was messing around with it the purity popped back in. After discussing this issue with John Folsom we decided that this may be due to the shadow mask distorting. Darn. If anyone knows what else could cause this please let me know. I have tested eveything else I could think of.

I have added some more pictures. some of which show it in the cabinet. The purity is bad now. I will add a few more pictures when it flips back.

Steve

Shadow mask distorting?? Can you go into a little more detail Steve?

John refered to it as "oilcanning". I'm not sure if that is just what he calls it or not but it means that the mask can pop in and out at the center.

Steve

What video had you been running when the purity "popped" and what did you then run until it popped back? If it is the shadow mask, it seems like it must be some really sudden movement due to thermal expansion and "oil-canning." This is the first I have heard of a tube popping out of purity suddenly. Usually overheating causes "doming", a gradual loss of purity in a bright area like the white patch on composite color bars.

Wayne:

I had the cross-hatch pattern on from the NTSC generator. I really want it to be something else but I don't know what it could be. When I first got it working I adjusted purity the normal was, yoke back, center red, etc. Thenk when it went bad I could only get a red screen with the yoke all the way back. I get good color in the middle 12 inches or so of the screen but off colors all around. I just tried it a few minutes ago and it came up good for about 5 minutes then went ouot.

Steve

Wow... that would be one hell of a tube defect! Seems if it was indeed due to heat, seems like the set would have to cool back down before the mask would pop back into the original position. Was this something that showed up only after putting everything back into the cabinet? If it happens more often while in the cabinet and less often or none at all while out of the cabinet, then it would certainly be something heat related.

Wayne:

I had the cross-hatch pattern on from the NTSC generator. I really want it to be something else but I don't know what it could be. When I first got it working I adjusted purity the normal was, yoke back, center red, etc. Thenk when it went bad I could only get a red screen with the yoke all the way back. I get good color in the middle 12 inches or so of the screen but off colors all around. I just tried it a few minutes ago and it came up good for about 5 minutes then went ouot.

Steve

In # 17 you said it has a field neutralizing coil - maybe that's the problem - either losing all current or something shorting and putting in too much

I know we have all said it..but WOW even with the "oil can" just seeing this set ALIVE is about as close the the holy grail as you can get!

Hi Steve,

the purity on the photos still looks good. There are some minor tinted spots in the corners, but IMHO they are acceptable with such a special set.

I had shadow mask troubles with the early A63-11X. One tube had a bended mask, and it was impossible to get a good purity. If the left part of the screen was clean, the right part of the screen had changed colors and so on.

The GE Porta-color crackles inside the CRT when the shadow mask is warming up.

IMHO your observed fault depends on the mounting brackets of the shadow mask inside the CRT. The CRT was not used for decades. With a rigid restraint of the shadow mask, it is not possible to get a good purity all the time. Mounting brackets and shadow mask need some compliance, otherwise the shadow mask will be tilted with warming up. IMHO the interaction of the mask and the mounting brackets is not well balanced. This could be due to the long time of quiet. I suggest tests with further operating of the tube with low beam current for 15 minutes, with normal beam current for ten minutes, and if you do not get significant results, with high current for five minutes. What are the results? Perhaps these data might more isolate the problems.

This is the procedure which I run for CRTs with bad purity.

Question to the others: is this a suitable way of testing or is there a chance of an irreparable damage of the CRT?

Kind regards,
Eckhard

I am hoping it's the field neutralizing current. Was the crosshatch white lines on black background? That should not cause enough heating to make the mask change.

I agree on the field neutralizing circuit. If it's the shadow mask, then temperature should affect it. Have you tried putting a big fan behind the set to cool it down, and see if the mask pops back into shape? I've seen a 40" Mitsubishi CRT do that, although it had been clobbered (loosened the mask from it's mounts, or something). as the set warmed up, you'd hear "Boi-oi-oi-oingggg", and the purity went to heck. You could also give it the fist in front, and it would look like a stone thrown in still water with color ripples.

That Westinghouse got slammed around in a rough ride in my TV room in '94, and nearly fell off where it was sitting. I found it wedged between the wall and a console set, and it had been shaken up pretty badly. A couple of the knobs that fell off, got under a file cabinet and were crushed. If the mask is dislodged, blame the Northridge Quake :( .

Did (present owner) give you the correct volume knob? I don't remember seeing it on the set last time I was at his place...

Charles

I have seen set's that the purity will go out when the contrast is set to high or on a bright white screen at normal settings.
Someone told me the electrons where hitting the shadow mask with a lot of force and it was moving the mask enough to mess up the purity.
Double check the high voltage and the crt screen settings. Then try turning down the contrast to a point where you can just see the red and see if the problem goes away.
Still that is one cool set you have and I hope you find the problem.
Ed

Wayne:

I bypass the neutralization coil and it has no effect.

Ed:

I was just playing with it and if I turn the contrast all the way down it is OK (but not perfect). Just increasing it a little throws off purity. I still have the problem with yoke position however. My screen settings should be OK. I will check HV again but it is not easy with the chassis sitting flat on the bench. The odd thing is is that I didn't have these problems originally and I don't know what I could have done to mess it up. What a piece of junk ;-)

Steve

Hi Steve,

the purity on the photos still looks good. There are some minor tinted spots in the corners, but IMHO they are acceptable with such a special set.

I had shadow mask troubles with the early A63-11X. One tube had a bended mask, and it was impossible to get a good purity. If the left part of the screen was clean, the right part of the screen had changed colors and so on.

The GE Porta-color crackles inside the CRT when the shadow mask is warming up.

IMHO your observed fault depends on the mounting brackets of the shadow mask inside the CRT. The CRT was not used for decades. With a rigid restraint of the shadow mask, it is not possible to get a good purity all the time. Mounting brackets and shadow mask need some compliance, otherwise the shadow mask will be tilted with warming up. IMHO the interaction of the mask and the mounting brackets is not well balanced. This could be due to the long time of quiet. I suggest tests with further operating of the tube with low beam current for 15 minutes, with normal beam current for ten minutes, and if you do not get significant results, with high current for five minutes. What are the results? Perhaps these data might more isolate the problems.

This is the procedure which I run for CRTs with bad purity.

Question to the others: is this a suitable way of testing or is there a chance of an irreparable damage of the CRT?

Kind regards,
Eckhard

I have five porta color set's and all of them make a weird metal moving noise inside the crt when the high voltage comes up. It is vary strange, But there is no problem with the purity.
Ed

Wayne:

I bypass the neutralization coil and it has no effect.

Ed:

I was just playing with it and if I turn the contrast all the way down it is OK (but not perfect). Just increasing it a little throws off purity. I still have the problem with yoke position however. My screen settings should be OK. I will check HV again but it is not easy with the chassis sitting flat on the bench. The odd thing is is that I didn't have these problems originally and I don't know what I could have done to mess it up. What a piece of junk ;-)

Steve

I don't think you did anything to mess it up, It is just a old tv with problems.
Could something be wrong with the yoke other than the position of it?

Steve, perhaps the issues you are experiencing are some of the very same ones that Westinghouse faced when they decided to pull these sets from the sales floors so many years ago. Too bad we can't go back in time as flies on the wall to see exactly what the Westinghouse engineers were scratching their heads about.

When jr tech gets his done maybe we will learn more? Seems like if it was a big problem back when they were new, somewhere it would be documented.

I remember our early 70s GE color console TV when I was a kid would pop and bang all the time; I guessed the grounding spring or maybe the crt shield. I don't think I ever heard another set make such mechanical noises-never noticed a purity problem, though I was pretty young.

This will likely sound a bit far-fetched, but it's just a thought and could be worth something...

This 22" CRT you're dealing with... is the gun assembly in any way similar to a roundie? If so, would it be possible to remove the tube and stick a 21FBP in there (of course it won't mount on the chassis... perhaps make something like a test jig) to produce a picture? If it would, it's safe to assume you wouldn't be able to get a good picture, but if you could get anything at all, you could run it for a while and monitor whether or not there are any sudden changes. If while running a round tube, there's a sudden change in the color or purity (and naturally it's assumed you wouldn't get perfect purity with a roundie to begin with), the sudden changes on a round tube would probably reassure that your issue is on the chassis itself instead of the 22" CRT. If there aren't any sudden changes as you've described before, then you could lean more towards the 22" CRT being the problem.

Like I said... kinda far fetched... but ya never know without asking.

Charlie:

I like your idea. The guns are the same as a 21 inch round tube. The problem is that I really do not want to risk pulling the CRT out. It is not my set and if I break the CRT I am in big trouble! If it were mine I would definitely try that. Unfortunately I can not just pull the deflection and convergence yokes (to put on another tube) either as they are soldered in.

Steve

Charlie:

I Unfortunately I can not just pull the deflection and convergence yokes (to put on another tube) either as they are soldered in.


Ahhh... well... just a thought. Maybe after some more thought, someone can come up with a way to pull this off without taking a chance on having an "oops" on our hands. :)

When jr tech gets his done maybe we will learn more? Seems like if it was a big problem back when they were new, somewhere it would be documented.


Well, mine does not "pop" and change purity and never has... but when I got it in the early 80s it was pretty dim (and it is not getting any better with age :tears:), so the beam current is probably nowhere close to what you are getting. The only thing noted by the original owner was the need to tweek the convergence as the set warmed up. He usually just turned it on a half hour or so before he wanted to watch it.

Is the HV stable on your set?

jr

It is not my set and if I break the CRT I am in big trouble!

Steve

Crack-HISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!


(I won't even joke)....

Seriously, how about a set of extend-O-cables? I probably have them, including the anode lead. Is the yoke removable without removing the tube? I can't remember.

Charles

Any old test jig, even rectangular, should work to a degree, right? Sometimes I wish I kept intact my roundie test jig, but of course it took up as much space as a typical set. Better to just use the cables.

Any test jig would work but the problem is that all the wires to the yoke and convergence yoke are hardwired in, they do not plug in. I do not want to try to unsolder everything especially on the convergence panel which is very hart to get to in the first place.

Steve

that could be a real pain, to unsolder all the yoke and convergence wires.... some nice set though!

About the portacolor noises....i just switched mine on and couldn't hear this. Strange. My favorite is the crackle of the yoke absorbing all the static from the neck when a crt is switched off.....oh and BTW, "This Tube Employs INTEGRAL Implosion Protection....Do Not Adjust Your Set!" :D

Well I think that I am going to call it a day with this set. I have an OK picture. Still some purity issues but the convergence is good. I put it back together and took the following pictures. Some of the pictures have curvy lines that are from the camera and not on the screen.

The sad thing now is that I have to return it to its owner.

Steve

Steve,

I think current owner should be very proud to show off this TV, and extremely pleased with your work. I think you have done a fantastic job on the set. And its little purity issues can be looked on as features! Too bad it cannot stay at you house.

Maybe current owner will let you work on one of the many other interesting sets he has.....

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You are right, Andy. But current owner has a house FULL of vintage TVs, and virtually none of 'em work! Where is the fun in that?

Steve,

That receiver could be a daily watcher. Exceptional photos and the convergence is really tight.
Nice job. Don't hurt yourself getting it back into the owner's home.

-Steve D.

Great Job Steve! And I thought I had persistance.....You are a marathon runner and I am a sprinter compared to you.

Wonderful to see this opperating. So neat; so rare!

Awesome job well done! When's moving day? I might have to volunteer... If it's going back where it was, is it going to be tilted & squeezed between the house & the bushes to the back yard, then in the patio door? If not, it'll have to go overhead through the front! Oh boy; the thought of it alone...... Also, Steve, maybe you should thank me for still not having delivered a huge 27" Magnavox comobo that (Westinghouse owner) asked me to temporarily stick in a garage at a house in Chatsworth... (Oops, let me sneak that over and stick it in that room before you get the chance to put the Westinghouse back :D )


You are right, Andy. But current owner has a house FULL of vintage TVs, and virtually none of 'em work! Where is the fun in that?

I've restored or repaired a dozen or two of his favorites, including his DuMont 30" Royal Sovereign, and a CTC-5, and odds & ends. He's into the design and the period of time that the TVs represent to him. He was in high school in the early 60s, and was very fascinated with color TV. He approached me in the early 1980s trying to find a 50s color set, but wound up buying a Magnavox 21" roundie combo in the late 80s, which started his collection. He still has his parents' Motorola 23EGP22 color set too. His interest expanded into other TV sets later on, especially when I was moving to a smaller place, and he bought 100 or so sets from my collection, including several 15" color sets, this Westinghouse, and some 19" CBS sets, etc. He actually has a dozen or so of my sets at his house, which I don't have room for, and he's keeping them in good shape for me. He's a very true collector, and has absolutely no profiteering motives in buying vintage TVs, as (sadly) some "collectors" have been known to do in the past. He's never sold a TV set whatsoever, in the 25 years I've known him.

Charles

That is just an awesome set. Very interesting read here.