My names Grump and I along with Kamakiri will be running Videokarma

We just wanted to welcome you all to the new board.

Please be patient with us as there are many bugs to work out. If you have suggestions by all means contact us about them. Thanks

Grumpy

Ha Ha ! 1st post....

Darn! Day Late....

:wave: Cool new site!

Nice site!

Thanks to Grumpy and Kamakiri for putting this together!

Wow Sandy, brand new site and over 3300 posts already! ;)

Dave

So who's gonna get to break a bottle of bubbly over her bow? Welcome VideoKarma! :wave:

Hello

Sandy has VERY special posting techniques.

Howdy everyone! :wave:

Cool--one post equals 203...must be all of my video posts over at AK.

Confirmed...the "top" posters are the TV folks! :banana:

Just checking in....

Thanks, Grumpy, Kam, and all involved. Very much appreciated.

Tom

Hi, I appreciate having this forum. Two quick comments:

1. Threads after 8/15/2009 don't seem to have transferred over. Should I assume that they will eventually reappear, or start a new thread to replace one that was ongoing as of, say, yesterday (9/8/2009)?

2. The link from the old Audiokarma forums page is broken. I got here by manually entering the URL http://www.videokarma.org/forums/ .

Phil Nelson

Hi Grumpy- Thanks for this site, it is excellent to see it.

:yes::thmbsp:

Hi, I appreciate having this forum. Two quick comments:

1. Threads after 8/15/2009 don't seem to have transferred over. Should I assume that they will eventually reappear, or start a new thread to replace one that was ongoing as of, say, yesterday (9/8/2009)?

2. The link from the old Audiokarma forums page is broken. I got here by manually entering the URL http://www.videokarma.org/forums/ .

Phil Nelson

Good question! 3 weeks of posts gone :tears:

Diggin the new change! Love how much more topics and forum rooms we have!

But, yeah there are a few glitches, my old avatar is back.. The whole site is as it sat 3weeks ago. I changed my avatar and some info on my User CP previously that is back to the way it was before.

But I know admins will fix, this is the best site ever!
Audiokarma (Videokarma), you are my coffee!!!

I like that av...tie-dyed roundie!

GOSH !!! WE just keep getting BIGGER AND BETTER !!!!!
James

Let the scotch flow and the music begin! :D

I used to be able to move freely from discussions of old TVs to giving tips
about picking classical recordings, now I have to log into two different forums
to do it. Great progress, but I guess there were some good reasons for doing
it...

And it looks like all posts after August 14 are in some kind of limbo!

Wow... now it's like we have our own little town... apart from the big city. Funny to think... when I first found AudioKarma years ago, there were only a few hundred members at most. I'm sure this new VideoKarma will grow as well with time. :)

I used to be able to move freely from discussions of old TVs to giving tips
about picking classical recordings, now I have to log into two different forums
to do it. Great progress, but I guess there were some good reasons for doing
it...

And it looks like all posts after August 14 are in some kind of limbo!

Yes, and attachments uploaded after August 14th are gone also.
I had to log in again to reply to this message even though it supposedly remembered me.

It's nice to have the seperate videokarma. Thanks!

John

Yes, and attachments uploaded after August 14th are gone also.
I had to log in again to reply to this message even though it supposedly remembered me.

It's nice to have the seperate videokarma. Thanks!

John

I would rather have the old situation with all those 3 weeks of posts
intact than the current one. I hope everyone realizes that humans
do spend time writing these contributions.

So, the two of you joined up together again, hem?

Gotta be a success.

Best of luck to this new endeavour of yours.

Jorge

I'm reserving judgment until I've had a chance to get used to the new site for a while. I didn't see this coming (probably my fault since I've only been frequenting the vintage TV forums on AK lately) and I don't know the reasons for the change.

It would have been nice to archive/read-only the old TV posts on AK for a little while at least. They appear to be all gone and the link on there to this place doesn't work either.

Can anyone offer any insight as to the rationale for the move?

Just bugs that need to be fixed. He mentioned that with the first post. I'm confident that they will fix all the glitches. I used to manage a site and trust me it's a pita.

Hi, I appreciate having this forum. Two quick comments:

1. Threads after 8/15/2009 don't seem to have transferred over. Should I assume that they will eventually reappear, or start a new thread to replace one that was ongoing as of, say, yesterday (9/8/2009)?

2. The link from the old Audiokarma forums page is broken. I got here by manually entering the URL http://www.videokarma.org/forums/ .

Phil Nelson

1. Please see this post http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?p=3018537&posted=1#post3018537

2. we are aware of and working on repairing the link.

I'm reserving judgment until I've had a chance to get used to the new site for a while. I didn't see this coming (probably my fault since I've only been frequenting the vintage TV forums on AK lately) and I don't know the reasons for the change.

It would have been nice to archive/read-only the old TV posts on AK for a little while at least. They appear to be all gone and the link on there to this place doesn't work either.

Can anyone offer any insight as to the rationale for the move?


Some of the info you wanted was touched on in this post http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?p=3018537&posted=1#post3018537

The lack of ability to reach the TV member due to their not wanting to venture in to the Audio or News forums is one of many reasons the site was split up.

Believe me your going to like this site much more since you will not have to abide by the long list of AK rules here such as the ability to sell your hobbyist items in the forums.

As for the missing posts there is little we can do to bring them over here. Not as many threads are gone as you think. Feel free to repost them over here if you like.

...

As for the missing posts there is little we can do to bring them over here. Not as many threads are gone as you think. Feel free to repost them over here if you like.

The problems is not that the missing posts/threads are unavailable here, it
is that they are also gone from Audiokarma, so in practice they are not
available at all. I don't mind that much, but as a person who posted
roughly equal amounts of material in audio and 'video', I am a bit
disappointed and the advantages to me are near zero. Regards.

I think This change is a good idea. Videokarma is a cool name for it too.
Ed

The problems is not that the missing posts/threads are unavailable here, it
is that they are also gone from Audiokarma, so in practice they are not
available at all. I don't mind that much, but as a person who posted
roughly equal amounts of material in audio and 'video', I am a bit
disappointed and the advantages to me are near zero. Regards.


Every TV and radio post ever made between 2002 and aug 13th of 2009 is right here on this site. The amount of posts that are missing is probably less then 50.

I am sorry you feel the way you do but this is the new home for these forums.

Grumpy

Every TV and radio post ever made between 2002 and aug 13th of 2009 is right here on this site. The amount of posts that are missing is probably less then 50.

I am sorry you feel the way you do but this is the new home for these forums.

Grumpy

Thanks for the info. I'd put that figure at more like 500. Way more than 50 just from me :)

I'm curious, why the mid August cutoff ? I'm a web developer by profession and I don't see why you couldn't have copied over all the content or at least disabled posting during the transition period.

I'm going to patch up a couple of my threads from the archive, but unfortunately I can't include the thoughtful, insightful, and informative comments made by other members.

Bob

Thanks for the info. I'd put that figure at more like 500. Way more than 50 just from me :)

I'm curious, why the mid August cutoff ? I'm a web developer by profession and I don't see why you couldn't have copied over all the content or at least disabled posting during the transition period.

I'm going to patch up a couple of my threads from the archive, but unfortunately I can't include the thoughtful, insightful, and informative comments made by other members.

Bob

Here's the simple answer to your question.

Rule number 1: The Boss is right.

Rule number 2: In case the Boss is wrong, apply Rule number 1.

Some people decided this splitup was good, they had the power
to implement it, therefore it was implemented.

Curiously enough if you go to read your private messages after going to videokarma.org anything after aug 15th is gone. But if you go to private messages from audiokarma.org they're all there.

John

Curiously enough if you go to read your private messages after going to videokarma.org anything after aug 15th is gone. But if you go to private messages from audiokarma.org they're all there.

John

I just discovered that as well. All the posts to vintage TV and Radio forums as of last night are still there too. I just copied over a bunch of my posts.

LOL - too true.

Here's the simple answer to your question.

Rule number 1: The Boss is right.

Rule number 2: In case the Boss is wrong, apply Rule number 1.

Some people decided this splitup was good, they had the power
to implement it, therefore it was implemented.

I just discovered that as well. All the posts to vintage TV and Radio forums as of last night are still there too. I just copied over a bunch of my posts.

I tried to do that but failed. How did you get to them?

John

I've been thinking for awhile that such a split would be a good idea, but I didn't want to jump in and say anything. I'm really looking forward to a more open classifieds system since nobody seemed to be using what we had.

I don't like losing posts, not one bit, but I've seen this happen here and on other sites and after some time we will all forget about it. I look for good things to come from this. Thanks to those who made it happen!

Thanks for the info. I'd put that figure at more like 500. Way more than 50 just from me :)

I'm curious, why the mid August cutoff ? I'm a web developer by profession and I don't see why you couldn't have copied over all the content or at least disabled posting during the transition period.

I'm going to patch up a couple of my threads from the archive, but unfortunately I can't include the thoughtful, insightful, and informative comments made by other members.

Bob

So your saying we lost 500 posts in 4 weeks time ? That would mean we lost 3 % of all posts in the TV forums.

It took that long because I had to delete over 2.4 million audio posts from the data base. Sorry if thats not quick enough for you but I run several sites and that was with me working on it night and day ignoring the other 5 sites I should have been working on.

Look I don't mean to sound condescending but you are way over stating how many posts were lost.

Grumpy

The attachments on existing threads aren't showing up.

I cannot upload new attachments. I get an "Upload xxx file failed." Something they can fix I hope.

John

Here's the simple answer to your question.

Rule number 1: The Boss is right.

Rule number 2: In case the Boss is wrong, apply Rule number 1.

Some people decided this splitup was good, they had the power
to implement it, therefore it was implemented.

Oh its far from that. Its just a lack of manpower. If only I could figure out how to be in several places at the same time :banana:

Hi grumpy,

Let's make peace, right? Yesterday I was a member of one wonderful set of
forums, with lots of virtual friends, tonight I get two sets for the same money
(that is for free!). I will remain an enthusiastic member of both, and my thanks
to all the volunteers that do their best to keep things going. Good night.

So your saying we lost 500 posts in 4 weeks time ? That would mean we lost 3 % of all posts in the TV forums.

It took that long because I had to delete over 2.4 million audio posts from the data base. Sorry if thats not quick enough for you but I run several sites and that was with me working on it night and day ignoring the other 5 sites I should have been working on.

Look I don't mean to sound condescending but you are way over stating how many posts were lost.

Grumpy

Yes, that's what I'm saying.

I'm including the vintage radio forums too. I personally made way over 50 posts between those two forums in that period - I know because I've been spending several hours copying them over and they are plenty of other guys posting too. Between the vintage TV and radio forums there must be at least 10 posts / day.

Anyway, why not suspend posting during the transition?

If you ever need help in the future, drop me a line. I'd love to help out. This is what I do for a living too.

Bob

I tried to do that but failed. How did you get to them?

John

I had saved bookmarks to them. e.g. this is my old 7-VT2 thread: http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=228145

I'm not sure how to get to other threads though. The main vintage TV and radio forum pages are blank.
http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=19

Maybe you can dig up links from your browser history?

If you remember the title (or some words) from your thread, you can google search for it, and click on the link and it will still work. That is how I found the thread on the metal cabinet 50s GE sets I was working on: http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=240074
and my thread asking about remote controls in radios: http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?p=2984235#post2984235

This was a surprise to me, but despite the loss of a few threads, I think having a separate tv board was a great idea, and I like having the tv classifieds back the way they used to be.:thmbsp:

If you remember the title (or some words) from your thread, you can google search for it, and click on the link and it will still work. That is how I found the thread on the metal cabinet 50s GE sets I was working on: http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=240074
and my thread asking about remote controls in radios: http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?p=2984235#post2984235

This was a surprise to me, but despite the loss of a few threads, I think having a separate tv board was a great idea, and I like having the tv classifieds back the way they used to be.:thmbsp:

Cool, thanks!

Surprising how well Google has indexed the site.

BTW - I don't mean to come off sounding like an ungrateful jerk.
I really do like to new split as well.
I'm definitely looking forward to using the classifieds.

Bob

Nice little site.. :thmbsp:

I have this odd feeling like I've been here before............Must be a glitch in the Matrix... :)

A huge thanks to Dave and Tim for putting this together.

I'll enjoy having a dedicated site to this hobby along with the audio one.

:banana:

I'm sure I'll find something of interest here too. :thmbsp:

You guys have to remember that for a plant to grow, you need to transplant a part of it, and put it in a new pot, making both pots places for growing.

We could never do things like free classifieds before, etc, in the old framework. Remember guys, I'm a TV guy, so what we have here is something for us, by us.

It also means that your voices for change and direction will be heard much more clearly, as you don't have to go shouting over a crowd.

The link from AK to VK is now fixed.

Have we registered new videokarma members yet? I mean new people that have
joined videokarma directly? Who will have the honor to be the first to join these
forums?

Someone (jr_tech) complained he had joined audiokarma recently and could
not log in here:

http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?p=3018114#post3018114

If they registered on or after Aug 13th they will have to re register to videokarma.

This is great, thanks Dave and Tim!

I am most supportive of the efforts and of both sites. I really appreciate the knowledge base we have here and including my 2 cents worth to be helpful when I can.
Thanks guys!

Currently I cannot access the site using any variation of the videokarma.org address, though videokarma.net is how I got here tonight.

Also, any insight as to why the site does not remember my login info (even though I checked that box) and makes me enter my ID and password every time? FF 3.5 here.

I've enjoyed many, many posts from the www.audiokarma.org site over the last 3 years, although my own contributions have been sparse. I've gleaned an awful lot of good info from all the members, especially my favorite threads in Tape, Turntables, Tubes, Early B&W-Early Color-Rectangular TV forums, & Antique Radios.

I'm relieved to read that these archived posts will still be there somewhere. It's always good to delve back into a subject & know it will still be there. I'm willing to wait awhile for the "bugs" to be sorted out, as I really do like the idea of having olders post & all those great pics by members still available. Good luck & good speed on this!

That's OK. Nice to have a board of our own 'though I am a big hi-fi guy too. Thanks to the mods for getting us set-up. :banana:

Nice site grumpy and kamakiri. Good to have both a Video and a Audio place to hang out!! :thmbsp:

All I can add is....WOW! Great site.

just stopping by....was hoping i would get a cool low member number..

Kam, really glad to see you on here-I remember some good posts you had when I first joined, the CT-100 saga, etc. I'd really like to see some of the guys come back in the fold who have been away for awhile: Polaraman, Heathkit TV, Captain Moody. I ain't forgot about you!

Diggin the new change! Love how much more topics and forum rooms we have!

But, yeah there are a few glitches, my old avatar is back.. The whole site is as it sat 3weeks ago. I changed my avatar and some info on my User CP previously that is back to the way it was before.

But I know admins will fix, this is the best site ever!
Audiokarma (Videokarma), you are my coffee!!!

I posted about the September posts... And let me say that I'm pleased we have a new forum just for the TV people, and I look forward to spending time here, as I will still do in the AK forums.

Charles

A whole site for us video nuts.Great idea!Thanks for the hard work,guys.

This is very cool. Thanks for all the hard work!!!

The link from AK to VK is now fixed.

I was just over there, and still the link directs me to a "Not Found" page.


From another post of mine in the AK News forum: "That's because I clicked on the link displayed on the audiokarma forums page (http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/index.php). The link they give there does not work (http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=166), even though next to it it reads: "Click here to find the new home for all of Audiokarma's TV and Radio forums www.videokarma.org"."

Is that the same link you fixed, or are you talking about a different one?

All the links are fixed now.

Here's my historic first thread to this new video forum. Neat old idea to create videokarma. Represents quite a commitment and dedication for the Board to move forward and implement the idea. Congratulations!

:yippy:

If you remember the title (or some words) from your thread, you can google search for it, and click on the link and it will still work. That is how I found the thread on the metal cabinet 50s GE sets I was working on: http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=240074
and my thread asking about remote controls in radios: http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?p=2984235#post2984235

This was a surprise to me, but despite the loss of a few threads, I think having a separate tv board was a great idea, and I like having the tv classifieds back the way they used to be.:thmbsp:

This worked fine for me, but as a number of us have noticed, it
does not work anymore. Trying to open such links now leads
to a page requesting some kind of internal password. Why?

The forum is back and the link from audiokarma.org even works.

I updated my CTC-11 whining, which came to a happy end (at least for the no-luminance problem).

Yay!

Phil Nelson

I love it! Thanks Grumpy and Kamakiri for making this possible. I also love vintage TV's & video games as well and I will enjoy this site very much. PS- do I get to show off all my old video game systems too?? :D

Yes you do! :D

In fact, I've had a busy weekend picking up something cool.....I'll post shortly :)

Are the two photo galleries for TVs coming over as well? - Horizontal Hold and the Vintage TV brochure galleries.

Nice expansive split from AK. I used to repair the old X-Y monitors for arcade games, so the new forums should be enjoyable.

Oh, and sponsor ads - any plans to sell advertising?

Cheers,

Good idea moving the old TV and radio stuff!

BTW, I never found the Hoffman TV in Portland mentioned in a recent post. Finaly made it there a week ago last Friday, but the lady said it was gone! :tears:

Okay, I don't have time to go over this whole thread before work, so if these questions have already been answered, I apologize:

How tightly integrated is Videokarma to Audiokarma? I like that my AK membership transferred over. But if I were to, like change my signature or avatar on Audiokarma, would it change here as well?

Why an entirely seperate forum? Was AK just getting too cluttered with offshoot forums?

Does my AK subscription give me any perks here?

Nice place you have here. :D

Are the two photo galleries for TVs coming over as well? - Horizontal Hold and the Vintage TV brochure galleries.

Nice expansive split from AK. I used to repair the old X-Y monitors for arcade games, so the new forums should be enjoyable.

Oh, and sponsor ads - any plans to sell advertising?

Cheers,


I'll try to answer em in order.

As of right now there is no way im aware of to transfer AK's TV gallery over here. That's not to say it won't happen just not real high on the priority list yet.

We do hope to get some sponsors on board. For now were just really trying to get the bugs out.

Grumpy

Okay, I don't have time to go over this whole thread before work, so if these questions have already been answered, I apologize:

How tightly integrated is Videokarma to Audiokarma? I like that my AK membership transferred over. But if I were to, like change my signature or avatar on Audiokarma, would it change here as well?

Why an entirely seperate forum? Was AK just getting too cluttered with offshoot forums?

Does my AK subscription give me any perks here?

In order

The sites are completely independent of each other. What you do on one is not reflected on the other.

Its a project that was always envisioned from day one of AK. Manpower was the issue holding us back.

The split should allow this site to blossom in to its own rather then being lost in the expanse that is Audiokarma.

Other then carrying over your subscriber banner here, there is no planned perks in the immediate future. If or when we go live with a subscriber section we will be sure to let everyone know.

Grumpy

Ah, I could have two different signatures? One for here and one for AK?

Hmmmmmm.....

Sure can. The two sites are not tied together in any way.

Wow this site has been up for over a week and I didn't even know about it!:yikes: Nice job Grumpy and company and good luck. :thmbsp:

If you remember the title (or some words) from your thread, you can google search for it, and click on the link and it will still work. That is how I found the thread on the metal cabinet 50s GE sets I was working on: http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=240074
and my thread asking about remote controls in radios: http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?p=2984235#post2984235

This was a surprise to me, but despite the loss of a few threads, I think having a separate tv board was a great idea, and I like having the tv classifieds back the way they used to be.:thmbsp:

This doesn't appear to work any more. The threads still show up in a google search, but when I try to view them, I'm asked for a password even though I'm logged in. It appears to want an administrator password, or something.

Yeah Andy, I get that too......

Just like AK, VK sure looks like the start of something good! :thmbsp:

Although I am not able to pursue vintage Televisions due to lack of time and (God help me) space, I do enjoy reading about what others are doing with them. As the worlds of Audio and video continue to merge, even for us old vintage two-channel guys, there are some common interests and occasional questions.

Right now I am in the planning stages of switching from Comcast cable to Satellite based HD TV / streaming satellite "radio" and installing an entirely new structured wiring system in my home to support it. I have a few questions but I don't see a satellite TV forum on VK. Is there any interest in that subject on VK?

Secondly, I understand that there are no special privileges for subscribers at this time but I am more than willing to support the cause and help to pay my way anyway. Is there or will there be a way to do so in the near future?

thanks grumpy
i see most people are into tv, what about 16mm and sound systems

Hi, my name is Jerry and just decided to google Warwick electronics after seeing a radio listed from that manufacture. Well it sent me here and there is a rather lengthy thread about the history. I thought I might be able to add a little that was not indicated in it. Namely location of facilities. I'm certain this is in the wrong location to post it perhaps the moderators can move it? Sorry.
Here we go, I started working for Warwick electronics in 1963 and for three years. The location of the facility was in the San Fernando Valley in So. Ca. At that time they were manufacturing two TVs for Sears, a 19" (I believe) "portable" and a larger (for consoles) color chassis. They also manufactured Thomas Organs and VOX guitar amps. Over that time period I worked on all of them. Working nights while in school and day time during the summer.
I thought I would add this to the information as no one seemed to recognize this as another manufacturing facilities.
I hope this adds a little bit of some of the later history of Warwick to he forum.
Best, Jerry