Tapehead47
07-12-2009, 12:14 AM
Just got it in the mail today from Time/Life. I was in the Navy in those days, but on a ship (USS Kitty Hawk). I hear it's a pretty brutal DVD to watch.
Any comments?
Thanks, guys
Rick
ferninando
07-12-2009, 01:40 PM
seen it on history ch I think. no more brutle than other authentic(non-hollywood) war films. But remember the Japanese in WWII wer just as bad as the Vietnamese when it came to human brutatity, ala batan death march.. But nobody ever tells that. Only that we were the bad guys for dropping the A-bomb. go figgure. sorry for the rant but had to say it.
charles64
07-26-2009, 07:40 PM
oldhifiguy is correct,we have been portrayed as the bad guys by revisionist historians.The facts are the JIA ran across China and Korea for years before Pearl Harbor.Search for the "Rape of Nanking" and Kempeitai Unit 731 and the Bio-warfare they committed in Manchuria against civilian populations and captured Allied Prisoners.We're the bad guys because they Forced us to drop Two Atomic Bombs on them before they Surrendered.Kamikaze's,Korean Brothels,Hell Ships,Death Marches,Slave Labor and Deprivation of Allied Prisoners-That is the Legacy of Imperial Japan.That is an Inconvenient Truth.
HandyHamlet
07-26-2009, 08:00 PM
Wow, I thought I was the only one. I keep hearing all this crap about how we should never have dropped the bomb. Like we only dropped one.
They keep saying we killed innocent Japanese civilians.
I guess my grandfather, who was 27 and had two kids when he was drafted, wasn't a civilian.
Drafted for the duration.
God it makes me want to punch someone.
Sorry, hi-jacked thread. Haven't seen it but I would be interested to know if they cover the Pink teams, Loaches & Cobras. Thanks.
70salesguy
07-26-2009, 08:10 PM
I have little doubt that I would not have ever been conceived and born had we not dropped those two bombs on Japan.
My father was drafted into the U.S. Army Air Corps in early 1942 and did not get out until the war was over. His outfit was scheduled to participate in the invasion campaign of Japan prior to dropping the bombs. Of course, this changed history and no invasion took place. Fortunately he was able to come home in one piece.
HandyHamlet
07-28-2009, 04:10 PM
I have little doubt that I would not have ever been conceived and born had we not dropped those two bombs on Japan.
My father was drafted into the U.S. Army Air Corps in early 1942 and did not get out until the war was over. His outfit was scheduled to participate in the invasion campaign of Japan prior to dropping the bombs. Of course, this changed history and no invasion took place. Fortunately he was able to come home in one piece.
Couldn't agree more. My grandfather was 27 when he was drafted for the duration. DURATION. No one knows what that is anymore. He had a wife, two babies, and a business. He was stationed on an Aircraft carrier in the Pacific. His was hit by kamikazes. Even after the Emperor gave his surrender speech on the 15th Japanese fighters shot down several photo recon planes from his carrier. I have his ship's yearbook right here.
charles64
07-28-2009, 09:07 PM
That whole generation was heroic in their duty.My Father In-Law was on the original crew of USS Fletcher(DD-445)the first ship of that class of fast destroyer.He was a Bofors 40mm A.A.Gunner providing a screen for the fleet.That ship earned 15 battle stars in actions from Guadalcanal in '42 all through the Pacific Theater to Luzon in '45.These were mostly 19 year old kids who Sailed into Harms Way and did their duty under very trying circumstances.:thmbsp:
SoCal Sam
08-10-2009, 04:44 PM
Most of the old series "Battlefield Vietnam" is on Youtube. Very brutal. America is not cast as enlightened in this series, which would understandably rankle veterans. All due respect to the participants, I hope we never get into something like that again.
Some thoughts on the A-Bomb: U.S. forces got a taste of what invading the Japanese homeland would have been like. Consider the fanatical Japanese resistance against all odds and the American losses at Iwo Jima. U.S. casualties were estimated at 1,000,000 for invading Japan. I do think a demonstration drop on a symbolic site like Mt. Fuji or Tokyo Bay could have demonstrated our power just as effectively as a drop on a city.
It is interesting to note, the Japanese waited 2 weeks after the a-bombs to surrender. The Soviets had begun a full scale attack in Manchuria just prior to the surrender. It has been suggested they feared the Soviets more than America.