A few days ago I got me a "Grundig Model 5017 U Stero" made in West Germany with FM on 88-108 Mhz (the majority of the radio made than had FM on 87,5-100 MHz). On it is says that is stereo, but does it works stereo on the radio? It haves 2 keyes PU Mono and PU stereo (PU=Pick-Up aka Record Player, Phongraph).

What a coincidence! I've got a proxy bid in on a Grundig radio that may be very closely related to yours if not the same. It also says Stereo, but it appears to only have the one speaker up front. However, I noticed two grills on the sides, but I'm not sure if they're actually speakers, but merely vents. Also, this one had the 88-108 range - it has to be the same one.

The one I saw was in perfect working order and sounded great. Fingers crossed that I get it for my bid - $50 :D

88-108 would have been an export (US) model in those days. A lot of these had provision for stereo with an optional plug-in multiplex decoder. VERY few were sold with the decoder. Two amps, so stereo is available with an external source.

Bloody heck. And I paied 1.000.000 lei (lions) for it (the minum sallary in Romania is 2.800.000 lei about 80 $). By the way, what ment BC?

Well, it looks like I won the auction for mine - $20 :D

I pick it up tomorrow, can't wait to crank her up for the BBC. They are also throwing in a smaller transistorised Radio Shack multiband radio, mid-70's vintage with manual and in good condition, so I'll have fun checking the SW bands, etc.

I'll report on it when I get it home.

Cheers, and best of luck with yours.

Anyone haves any ideea, in what period they where produced?

I'd be interested as well. I'm guessing early 60's, but I can find out when the gent I'm buying it from bought his, as I believe he bought it new.

Cheers

Telecolor- "BC" in this connotation means "BroadCast Band"- standard AM. I think in Yoorup you guys call it "Medium Wave". Also means "Before Christ", but I think we can go w/broadcast band safely here. On dating this, if its tubes, probably not much later than 1970. My uncle had a Grundig tabletop stereo radio-also had a shortwave band or 2 on it-I think he got it about '66 or '67, & it most certainly had tubes. Even had one of those funky "eye" tubes. Super cool!! I used to LOVE to play w/it- beautiful sound. In fact it got junked in the mid '70s because a tube burnt out & "they aren't available any more". Whoever was supposed to fix it just didn't want to mess w/it, and a beautiful sounding, performing & looking set went to the dump. Or not-they probly just told my uncle that & kept the damn thing for themselves....wish I had it now. It had that mirror-like wood finish, think it was real walnut. Good luck w/yr new prize-I'm kinda jealous !!<grin> -Sandy G.

Information on Grundig 5017 Stereo:

http://www.radiomuseum.org/dsp_modell.cfm?model_id=22103

You'll need to join to see schematic and larger photos.

And as I suspected, this model WAS sold in the US. It is listed in the Sams Photofact index. Although I have several hundred, I don't have #556-9 (1962), which covers this model. Perhaps someone here has it?

Yep this Grundig has the tuning eye where the two light beams meet in the middle - that's particularly cool.

I'll post pics inside and out tomorrow - I won't sleep tonight thinkin' of it. Kid at Christmas over here :-)

What makes me sad at the same time is that no-one else there wanted it. On this Island there are so few people with any appreciation of anything other than Bose Wave Radios and plastic junk CD stereo boom box type thingies. I'm just glad that I was able to rescue it myself.

Cheers

I lied!! Mine is a Blaupunkt Sultan.

But very similiar in specs and features. Attached is a quick and dirty pic of the front.

I'm in a rush, but I'll get more pix tonight.

Cheers

There are three Blaupunkt Sultan models listed in the Sams index: 2320, 2623, and 20203. Find the model nmber of yours and I'll tell you the number for your schematic. And I just may have it myself.

Hmm, mine says Type 22203. If you do have that one, it would be most appreciated. Mine does work, but will need some attention to the tuning mechanism. I'll have time to crack it open tonight, at which point I'll start a new thread and post nudie pics.

Thanks

Yes, here in Europe we call the BC MW (Medium Waves)-the Romaninan name for Medium Waves is "Unde Medii".
I saw in a tv repair shop near me a "Blaupunkt" tube "console"
(it haves only record-player-tape recoder not included) made for USA-FM not avaible, with AM Stereo!!! It costs 2.000.000 lei (apox 60 $), but I don't have money to buy it and no room to put it (I live in 3 room flat in an apartament block, like the majory of the Bucharesters).

But what for where used "Socket for channel". I saw that my radio haves input/output for record-player and tape-recorder.
And what ment "channel" on FM? My radio got FM 88-108 Mc
and Channel 200-300.

Originally posted by Telecolor 3007
But what for where used "Socket for channel". I saw that my radio haves input/output for record-player and tape-recorder.
And what ment "channel" on FM? My radio got FM 88-108 Mc
and Channel 200-300.


I don't know about the "socket for channel" (unless, I am guessing, this is an input for a stereo FM multiplex adapter), but I can tell you what the Channel 200-300 scale on your radio is for. First of all, as has been mentioned by others here, your unit was an export model, since it has 88-108 MHz FM (in most of Europe, the FM band goes only to 100 MHz or so).

As to the channel 200-300 scale: The FM broadcast band is divided into 100 channels, each 200 kHz or 0.2 MHz wide, from 88.1 to 107.9 MHz. The FCC (the United States Federal Communications Commission, which regulates all broadcasting and telecommunications here) refers to FM frequencies by the channel numbers, rather than the actual frequencies; for example, here near Cleveland, Ohio, where I live, we have an FM radio station on 105.7 MHz, which would be Channel 289. Another station near Cleveland is on 92.3 MHz, FM channel 222. A station near here is on 107.9 MHz, FM channel 300.

Note that the FM channels begin with channel 201, 88.1 MHz--not channel 200 as one might expect.

Some of the first U. S. FM radios made in the late '40s-early '50s, after the 88-108 MHz FM band was commissioned for broadcast use here, had channel scales similar to the one on your receiver; this was, I think anyhow, an attempt by the FCC to get Americans accustomed to the idea of referring to FM radio stations by channel numbers, the same as we refer to TV stations today. The idea didn't go over very well, so by about 1951 or thereabouts the 200-300 channel dial disappeared from the dial glass on the fronts of these sets. Today, with most AM/FM radios and stereo systems now having digital tuning which shows the actual frequency in bright numbers right on the dial (no guessing), there is, of course, no need for analog dial scales or channel charts. These radios often allow for split-channel tuning, i. e. tuning between channels of the standard North American FM band. In the U. S. we have FM stations spaced at 0.2MHz (200 KHz) intervals; the number after the decimal point in the frequency is always odd (.1, .3, .5, etc.). However, in Europe, the FM stations' frequencies come in between our 200-KHz channels, so a station, say, in Germany might be on 88.6 MHz. Today's digital FM tuners are designed to take this spilt-channel spacing into account; the digital AM/FM tuner in my Aiwa NSX-A888 bookshelf system does, for example, since these units are also very popular in Japan, where FM stations are assigned frequencies between U. S. channels. The tuners are made to accomodate both standards so they can be used either here in the U. S. or in Europe without modifications. All that is usually necessary to change the channel spacing is a simple front-panel keystroke sequence which resets the system's internal microprocessor (at least that is how one resets the tuning interval on my stereo's tuner); this sequence is ordinarily explained in the instruction manual.

Hope this information helps.

Kind regards,

Originally posted by Elbowgeek
I lied!! Mine is a Blaupunkt Sultan.

But very similiar in specs and features. Attached is a quick and dirty pic of the front.

I'm in a rush, but I'll get more pix tonight.

Cheers


Very nice! Yours is the first Blaupunkt Sultan receiver I've seen, and I've been messing around with electronics most of my life. The front panel looks very good, all lit up like yours is, but I wonder about that stain on the speaker grille cloth. Is that simply dirt, or, Heaven forbid, was there a fire inside the set at one time?
Just curious.

BTW, how is your radio reception where you are? Do you get many U. S. broadcast or FM stations, or is it mostly confined to Bermuda? How about TV? Do you get any of our U. S. networks there, on cable or otherwise? I know you guys have at least two VHF TV stations, one a CBS affiliate, the other NBC, but I'm curious if you get American cable networks like CNN, ESPN, etc. as well (in addition to ABC, The WB, UPN or PBS). Canadian cable television is banned from carrying American TV stations; was wondering if Bermuda's cable systems, if any, are like that too.


Kind regards,

Originally posted by Jeffhs
Very nice! Yours is the first Blaupunkt Sultan receiver I've seen, and I've been messing around with electronics most of my life. The front panel looks very good, all lit up like yours is, but I wonder about that stain on the speaker grille cloth. Is that simply dirt, or, Heaven forbid, was there a fire inside the set at one time?
Just curious.

BTW, how is your radio reception where you are? Do you get many U. S. broadcast or FM stations, or is it mostly confined to Bermuda? How about TV? Do you get any of our U. S. networks there, on cable or otherwise? I know you guys have at least two VHF TV stations, one a CBS affiliate, the other NBC, but I'm curious if you get American cable networks like CNN, ESPN, etc. as well (in addition to ABC, The WB, UPN or PBS). Canadian cable television is banned from carrying American TV stations; was wondering if Bermuda's cable systems, if any, are like that too.


Kind regards,

Hi jeffhs! The stain appears to be a burn mark, but I believe from a cigarette - and external source. I hope so anyway :p:

As for local radio, unfortunately it does pick them up quite well. So I can listen to de "grass roots" types blathering on on David Lopes' show about how de gummint has to kick out all de bleddy foreigners, etc. etc., or listen to truly horrible "urban contemporary" (read: rap) music on the FM channels. The only bright spot is Peter Lewis on Mix 106 in the morning and the BBC news channel rebroadcast on an AM station 24 hours, but that gets a bit old after a while.

The real fun is the SW bands - I'm having a great time listening to them; amazing what goes on in the wild wild west of radio :cool:

It's only physical problem seems to be that the tuning dial cord is slipping horribly, so I really have to struggle to tune a station, and getting to the mechanism looks to be a monster job. Built bomb-proof! :uzi: (not complaining about that - lovely quality!)

Cheers

@ Jeffhs Here, in Romania we have FM on 88-108 Mhz (Mc). One of my favourite radios broadcasts on 106.7 Mhz.