View Full Version : What kind of capacitors do you use?


drh4683
12-24-2008, 08:20 AM
I've seen many photos of peoples recap jobs on radios + TV's and I see the same caps being used by most guys. I'm not sure what brand or type they are but I'd be interested in using them.

The one's Im talking about are yellow in color, axial caps. Look like polyester or polypropelyne type caps. I THINK they might be made by mallory, but I could be wrong. Where do you guys buy these? Are they pretty good quality and where are they made?

I've always used sprague orange drops, but sometimes they are too large to fit into tight spaces, and the fact that the leads come out the bottom of those can make them difficult to install neatly where a once axial type cap was. Just looking for some good quality alternatives to the orange drop.

jpdylon
12-24-2008, 10:36 AM
mallory and illinois film caps are great things. mouser has tons of mallory films. AES too. :yes:

radiotvnut
12-24-2008, 10:55 AM
I've gotten mine from AES, Radiodaze, and Justradios. They seem to be excellent quality and I've never had a problem with one.

zenithfan1
12-24-2008, 01:37 PM
I get most of mine from Justradios, they have a good selection, cheap prices and fast shipping. I'm not sure where they are made but most likely not the USA. Very high quality and no problems thus far.

waltchan
12-24-2008, 02:06 PM
Are Jamicon capacitors any good? Everytime I ship a power supply supply to rebuild through Studio Sound Electronics, #1 source of VCR parts (www.studiosoundelectronics.com), the owner always give me high-temp Jemicon caps in my Panasonic switch-mode power supplies.

karmaman
12-24-2008, 02:14 PM
Jamicon?

Jamicon is not very good.

Findm-Keepm
12-24-2008, 04:15 PM
For film caps, I use Mallory "PVC" series caps or Orange Drops. I also have a bunch of Samsung, CDE (Cornell Dubilier) and ICC (Illinois) caps and don't hesitate one bit when using them. CDE's are usually the physically largest of the bunch. The Mallory PVC series are hard to find nowadays - I purchased about 3200 of them in 600V and 1600V ratings, so my stash is deep....:yes:

E-lytics? I try to go with new USA made stuff, as I've had some terrible experience with Taiwan and Hong Kong made/supplied stuff. Sprague 39D series are getting harder to find, and not all Sprague Atom caps are USA made. Vishay has had the brand for some time, and has farmed out some of the manufacturing to the Asians. Quality axial caps with low(proper) ESR ratings are the hardest to find. Just one day with my ESR meter back in 1998 and I was hooked on ESR being the number one quality indicator for caps. I was big into computer monitor repair, and aside from the occasional flyback induced troubles, caps were the number one replacement items. Found seven bad caps in an hour in one monitor - a curbside find that got retired just last year.

Merry Christmas, y'all,

waltchan
12-24-2008, 04:50 PM
Jamicon?

Jamicon is not very good.
Even though your opinions with Jamicon capacitors are not very good, I am hoping they are not the very worst out there, right? I already spent almost $200 to get the power supplies rebuilt by using high-temp Jamicons. Unless Jamicon is the very worst out there, that would be bad, and I would be sad. Please verify, so I don't need to spend extra money over again?

Findm-Keepm
12-24-2008, 04:51 PM
I just checked - Mallory PVC series was purchased by CDE and are now availble at Mouser - common values only.

Cheers,

drh4683
12-24-2008, 06:30 PM
I'm impressed with the Illinois caps so far. Seems like finding a good distributor is rather difficult. I like mouser as I can pick anything off the catalog including the odd values, but they don't carry IC products. I visited the IC website and see they make all the odd value caps, but those who disturbute their product only list the common values. Anyone know of another place like mouser who happens to carry IC?

I've been buying from mouser for almost 10 years, so I really don't know of the other ones out their, even after a google search for some other places I'm coming up short. The IC website will show you a list of distributors by state, but nothing that helps me.

Thanks for your input

gravitar
12-24-2008, 08:26 PM
I use the kind of capacitors that I find in old TV and monitor chassis that I save :)

Eric H
12-24-2008, 09:56 PM
I use the yellow ones also, I get them from Justradios but I think they are the same as the AES caps.

They are easier to work with than Orange Drops and cheaper, i've never had a problem with them and in any case I would think any modern cap would be 10 times better than the paper/wax junk that was OEM!

One bad thing with the Yellow caps is they will melt if you hit them with the soldering iron.

karmaman
12-25-2008, 01:54 AM
waltchan, you're good man. They're not the best but in a power supply (not too heavy load) they will be just fine, especially if they are high-temp ones.

andy
12-25-2008, 03:57 AM
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drh4683
12-25-2008, 11:21 AM
Justradios has a good selection, including all the unique odd values. I'm curious as to where he buys them, as I can't find a thing elsewhere. Seems like justradios gets the caps from some distributor, and made his own website to simplify everything for the antique radio guy as far as finding parts in one place goes. When finding parts, I like to bypass the middleman if at all possible to find these parts directly from the source. I still can't figure out who actually makes the caps sold by justradios.
Im kind of crazy when it comes to researching for parts and materials. I like to know every little technical detail before I make a final decision.

Findm-Keepm
12-25-2008, 07:48 PM
He gets his caps from China - give me a few days to return to Norfolk, and I'll give you the url for the company Just Radios gets theirs from - found it after compaing logos to those on alibaba.com under "film capacitors" - searched Taiwan and Chinese companies. I'm thinking it is Jaiwan or something of the sort.

BTW, it is hard to find values less than .01uFd from most Taiwan/China Manufacturers. Justradios found one of the few that manufacture them.

Cheers,

drh4683
12-25-2008, 09:09 PM
Thanks Brain! Look forward to hearing back from you on this. I figured they might be chinese made. One of the reasons I like the sprague (vishay) orange drops is because they are still made in USA and of outstanding quality. I couldn't recap something so special like a zenith TO or an early color set with foreign parts if I don't have to.
I wish sprague made the axial type "orange drop" 192P series in more values. If they did, I'd be buying those for everything.

With the econony in a major downfall, Im seeing more and more companies go under, from food manufactuers to machinery all over the chicago area and everywhere else. I get concerned over companies like Vishay keeping the sprague line of capacitors going. They are very expensive, but worth every penny. Maybe its me, but I feel like I have a limited window of opportunitiy to still buy these caps. Anything electronic made in USA today is truly a miracle of existance.

waltchan
03-21-2010, 10:03 PM
I am rebuilding a switch-mode power supply for Panasonic PV-S4580 SVHS VCR. What is the best brand, most durable high-temp caps I can get? No, I won't be using Jamicon caps again based on some negative reviews here.

waltchan
03-21-2010, 10:06 PM
Studio Sound Electronics, #1 source for VCR parts, sell Sanyo, Jamicon, Xicon, and Elna caps. Which one would you go best?

zenithfan1
03-21-2010, 11:25 PM
None of those, Get Panasonic or Nichicons.

waltchan
03-22-2010, 02:15 AM
None of those, Get Panasonic or Nichicons.

Who sells the Panasonic caps, then?

bandersen
03-22-2010, 03:01 AM
Digi-Key and Mouser both carry Panasonic.

MRX37
03-22-2010, 07:29 PM
Nichicons if I can find them.

Geoff Bourquin
03-22-2010, 09:40 PM
I get them from Mouser by the hundreds. I usually get type UPW, or UHE. There are hundreds of options but these seem to hold up real well,handle lots of ripple current, have long life and low ESR. You can download data sheets from the links in Mousers' online catalog and compare the factors that are most important to you.

fsjonsey
03-23-2010, 12:54 AM
I've been using the "bargain bin" mylar caps from justradios.com. They aren't name brand caps, but they have held up well for me. No complaints. I sometimes have to combine caps to get the right value though.
http://www.justradios.com/MYLARcapacitors.html

I buy cheap small value caps so I can afford better quality electrolytics.