View Full Version : Wow !! Just scored an 8-301 Sony...


Sandy G
12-17-2008, 07:26 PM
Offa You-Know-Where, item #140288341780. Wanted one of these bad boys for forever, this one looks kinda dirty, but all there. Hope it works, but it's not the end of the world if it don't. And I'll give about 100 bux shipping & all for it, I've seen 'em go LOTS higher than that, in rougher shape. Guess this is my Christmas..Couldn't be happier ! Yeah, I'm weird, but y'all knew that already...(grin)-Unca Sandy

Fisherdude
12-17-2008, 08:05 PM
Why you buyin' stuff? You can't possibly need anything!!:no:

Sandy G
12-17-2008, 08:33 PM
You're right...But I keep tellin' my wife I'm gonna Kick the Bucket early, an' all these toyz are her inheritence...So, she sez Keep Buyin'..but buy quality...I got Lauriann-the wife- & Bethany-the little "girlfriend", in the Ship's Radio Room awhile back, & told 'em what all that stuff was worth, & how Rich they were gonna be when I Shuffled Off This Mortal Coil. I could see the wheels turnin' in Bethany's head when I said this R-390A should bring $1500, the R-389 should fetch $2500 or so, the EK-07, another $1500-2K or so, Bethany's eyes kept gettin' bigger & bigger, Lauriann says, "Whoa, kid, I gotta go TOO before YOU get any of this..." Bethany looked at her like, well, THAT could be arrainged...I told 'em the REAL moolah was in the Gun Safe, though. Hehehehe...

Eric H
12-17-2008, 10:27 PM
Link: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140288341780&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.ebay.com%3A80%2Fsearch%2Fse arch.dll%3Ffrom%3DR40%26_trksid%3Dm37.l1313%26sati tle%3D140288341780%26category0%3D%26fvi%3D1

Nice one Sandy, looks complete, even has the case and the dirt looks like the Cigarette kind that will clean right up.

Fisherdude
12-18-2008, 08:33 AM
That's what I was thinking, Eric. A little Simple Green, she'll be lookin' pretty nice.

Sandy G
12-18-2008, 09:36 AM
My thoughts, too. Must have scared the "Big Dogs" away- Like I said, these puppies usually go higher. I kinda can't believe I got it. Seller called me last nite-it isn't his, he's selling it for a friend, he knew nothin' about it other than it was dirty. Told him PLEASE don't plug it in & try it out, he said he had no intentions of it. Seemed like a nice guy. Seemed kinda interested when I told him what it was-Sony's 1st TV & all.

bgadow
12-18-2008, 11:56 AM
Hey, that's a good project! You don't want them to be mint right out of the box...what fun is that? This will clean up nice. Still kicking myself...I spotted one of these at a hamfest about 5 years ago, judging by the way they had it stacked along with a bunch of junk I just know I could have got it for nothin'. I didn't even ask. Stupid!

zenithfan1
12-18-2008, 03:11 PM
Dawn dish soap is good for cleaning smoke off of delicate things as well. I have had good results with it. I also use those microfiber cloths that WILL NOT scratch anything.
Good luck with 'er Sandy!

radiotvnut
12-18-2008, 05:25 PM
Offa You-Know-Where, item #140288341780. Wanted one of these bad boys for forever, this one looks kinda dirty, but all there. Hope it works, but it's not the end of the world if it don't. And I'll give about 100 bux shipping & all for it, I've seen 'em go LOTS higher than that, in rougher shape. Guess this is my Christmas..Couldn't be happier ! Yeah, I'm weird, but y'all knew that already...(grin)-Unca Sandy

Hey, I'm glad you found one! It's always nice to find a deal on something of interest. That model is one that every TV collector should have in their collection! MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!!

zenith2134
12-18-2008, 05:58 PM
Ah! Nice find! Hopefully you get lucky and its a simple fix. Looks like its untouched and hasn't been used in many years which is a good thing!

Clean-up should be okay. I actually have fun doing it when the results are good enough...

Sandy G
12-18-2008, 07:22 PM
BTW, there is an Indextron w/a couple days left to go on there, too...Not mine, I don't want it, but somebody out there might...Item #380089988032. Seller sez it works. Kinda cheap right now, $78 or so.

Eric H
12-18-2008, 07:40 PM
There was one of these listed on eBay a while back, seller said it didn't work.

They had a picture of the back showing a waffle iron cord plugged into it, yes folks, 120 volts AC directly to the set, I think it runs on 12 volts DC!

wajobu
12-18-2008, 07:44 PM
Oh baby, it's a beauty! Nice work Sandy!

Sandy G
12-18-2008, 07:48 PM
Well, I'll only be having it a short time, 'cuz ALL TeeVees are gonna kwit in mid-Feb,. right ? Then it's off to th' Dempster Dumpster w/ALL of 'em, correct ?

radiotvnut
12-18-2008, 07:52 PM
Well, I'll only be having it a short time, 'cuz ALL TeeVees are gonna kwit in mid-Feb,. right ? Then it's off to th' Dempster Dumpster w/ALL of 'em, correct ?

That's correct; but, please don't throw it in a dumpster. That could hurt the environment. Just send it to me for proper recycling, LOL!

zenithfan1
12-18-2008, 10:06 PM
Just got time to look at 'er, the bay is blocked at work. Very nice! You HAVE to post some pics when you get it all fixed up. Don't make me come down there!:D

Sandy G
12-29-2008, 04:18 PM
Well, got the l'il guy in today. Kinda dirty, but all the knobs are there, screen isn't skint up, only a couple tiny dents-but hell, this bad boy IS from 1959-60 or thereabouts. Should I bring it up on a variac, or does that work for solid state stuff ? Or should I leave well enuff alone, just clean it good, & wait til I can take it down to visit Terry ?

Fisherdude
12-29-2008, 04:24 PM
Well, I'm no TV guy, that's for sure, but here's what I'm thinking...

The recommendation on an old radio is to always replace the caps before firing up, because you could be putting 200-300 volts of B+ on those old caps. If they're shorted, you could be kissing a transformer goodbye.

TV's, now, they might only have a coupla kilovolts running around in there...

If it were me, I wouldn't plug it in, even to a variac. Too many unobtainium parts in there to risk it.:no:

Sandy G
12-29-2008, 05:40 PM
Kinda what I thought too, Clay. These l'il guys had reputations as being "Sony's Problem Child", I DON'T wanna push it.

andy
12-29-2008, 06:59 PM
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VinylHanger
12-29-2008, 11:28 PM
If you do it right, you could make a killer mouse cage out of that. It has a handle and everything. :D

Mr Hoover
12-30-2008, 12:50 AM
The B+ is pretty low, so there won't be 300v on any of the caps. Most of the caps are low voltage electrolytics. Mine had a hand full of open cap, but most of them still had good ESR.

Hi,that looks a nice one.

I got two of these working last year.Watch out for the horizontal output transistor running very hot,if it does-change it.2SC41.

Other thing to watch out for is sync problems,rolling pix etc.

Hugh

andy
12-30-2008, 04:49 AM
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Mr Hoover
12-30-2008, 05:16 AM
Hi
One of the 8-301's I have had terrible sync.Would "lock"
on a strong signal but then lose sync etc.

I found from looking at the sync part of the
middle board that a resistor had never been fitted in
manufacture.No resistor,no solder,just the holes in the pcb!

From memory it was around 10K.Fitted it and lock was then great!

Maybe check that and also the resistor values are as the schematic
indicates.

A good test of the sync is to reduce the RF gain(contrast) control and see if the picture keeps locked in.Have a video of mine on youtube here

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=StbCuBM3lA0&feature=channel_page

Strangely both of mine have weakish vertical lock if the horizontal hold
is at one extreme or other of the lock in range.Don't know why this is.

Hugh

andy
12-30-2008, 05:35 AM
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Mr Hoover
12-30-2008, 06:51 AM
Strange you had to add the resistor too.
The difference when I put it in was fantastic.
Seem to remember there was video getting thru the sync
stages without it.Waveforms are on the SAMS schematic.
Getting access to the panel is difficult though to measure anything!!

The other one already had the resistor fitted and sync seems
ok.Both sets lock down to virtually no signal on the screen.
There is some hor osc frequency drift as the TV warms up
in the first 15 mins or so.

Once working the TV seems reliable

Hugh