View Full Version : What's the longest distance you've been able to pull in a station?
Thyratron 03-17-2007, 01:00 AM Let's see who has been able to pull in the furthest station "radio only," without the help of an external antenna or signal amplifier. I was able to get a Minneapolis AM station from about 1600 miles away one night around 2 am on my (now gone to another owner) '56 Philips table radio. How about you?
One time late at night I pulled in an Albequerque station (about 1000mi away from here) on my 1948 Stromberg Carlson console.
truetone36 03-17-2007, 03:08 AM Every now and then, I pick up Albuquerque and Denver on my little 1955 Motorola table radio.
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Saratoga48 03-17-2007, 05:31 AM Sidi Yahia Morocco, pulled in WLS, Chicago, WGY Schenectady, and WNEW NY,
R-390a, (1968-69)
Mark W. 03-17-2007, 10:36 AM Well not sure how to handle this question my 1936 Silvertone has no internal antenna having been designed to work with a long wire. I have pulled Austrailia Japan, South Africa, Russian, And the BBC with it from Silverton Oregon on a 75' long wire.
My Heathkit Mohican has pulled in South Africa on it's built in antenna. But that was some time I ago.
Omaha, Nebraska on my GE Superadio III (no external antenna). Shortwave...the Hammurlund and old Sony portable pick up stations from Russia, France, Africa, etc. with ease.
Nolan Woodbury 03-17-2007, 11:12 PM Most any night I can get AM stations from Oklahoma City and the occasional Texas signal pretty easily with my GE Superadio using just the built in extend-o-tenna. Lots of stuff from the Bay Area too (1000 mi).
My best signal-pulling tubie is a Zenith H 845; good enough to pull in FM stations from 200 miles away and clear AM signals from L.A. I have an outside wire-set up done, using my house's old TV pole and spread to the peaks on my roof. I haven't hooked anything to it yet tho-
My brother uses a Zenith T/O 1000-1 and tells me he gets signals from some pretty crazy distances. I've just *got* to get me one of those! But one of the later ones, with FM.
Scorpion8 03-17-2007, 11:28 PM Pulled in a Chicago AM station in Juneau, AK on a cheap Aiwa mini-boombox. Oddly, I couldn't get it on my home systems.
wa2ise 03-17-2007, 11:39 PM Once got a Jesuscaster from Iowa on 1530 (IIRC) here in New Jersey. Another time, picked up a station near St Louis, broadcasting a local college basketball game.
Sandy G 03-18-2007, 08:20 AM On my "civilian stuff", I guess the most impressive was WLAC one nite on my 1938 2-tube Arvin set..On my "military" stuff, I think I've picked up carriers from Europe a few times in the dead of winter on the R-389....pretty good for MW stuff..
sleddogman 03-18-2007, 10:57 AM While station hopping one evening, I paused and briefly heard "All Your Base Are Belong To Us" but I'd be hard pressed to say exactly where it was originating from...
Jeffhs 03-18-2007, 02:18 PM One Sunday morning about 25 years or so ago, when I lived in a suburb of Cleveland, I heard KOA-AM, 850 kHz, from Denver, on my Zenith Allegro stereo system. Cleveland has a station on 850, but it was off the air for technical maintenance at the time. Haven't heard the Colorado station, or anything much west of Chicago except WBAP 820 in Dallas, Texas, since then. I usually hear stations in New York, Chicago, Detroit, Philadelphia, Richmond, Virginia and Pittsburgh, not to mention WLW in Cincinnati, several smaller Ohio stations, New York City, Buffalo and Schenectady (WGY Schenectady booms in here at night), and several 50kW Canadian stations, such as AM 740 in Toronto and CKLW in Windsor, after dark from my present location. I guess it's because Ohio is the easternmost state of the Midwest that I cannot hear most of the region's other big stations (I have yet to hear any stations from Missouri except St. Louis, the Dakotas, Illinois except Chicago, Indiana except Fort Wayne, etc). The Southwest? From here, no. I have yet to hear stations from Wyoming, Utah, Arizona and so on (even the big 50kW giants), although I don't use anything fancy for an antenna on my radios either (just the built-in ones); living in an apartment building means putting up a long wire antenna is out of the question. Another reason I don't hear most of the Midwest's/Southwest's 50kW AMs may be that, after the FCC did away with clear channels about 20 years ago, all the smaller stations on those frequencies (most of them licensed for daytime-only operation), not to mention the big stations now having to restrict their night antenna patterns and/or reduce their power output from 50kW to 10kW or less, now means most if not all of those big former 50kW "giants" aren't so "big" anymore. Cincinnati's WLW, for example, calls itself "The Big One", but since 700 kHz is no longer a clear channel, I doubt if that slogan means much anymore. Oh well; I'm sure many of those 50kW former clear-channel bruisers are now saying "it was fun while it lasted."
drh4683 03-18-2007, 07:50 PM How many of you are able to pull in AM 780 WBBM from chicago? I went on a trip to florida back in 2000 I brought my TO royal 3000 with me (before 911, they aloud me to bring my TO onto the plane as a carry on) I picked up the station excellent in Naples. Ive heard its an "easy to dx" station. Just curious. WBBM is a 50KW station broadcast from the Sears Tower.
WBBM is fairly easy to get in NE Arkansas.
radioactive 03-18-2007, 09:09 PM i can get wbbm on a regular basis up here in the great white north.(winnipeg, manitoba)
Jeffhs 03-18-2007, 09:16 PM How many of you are able to pull in AM 780 WBBM from chicago? I went on a trip to florida back in 2000 I brought my TO royal 3000 with me (before 911, they aloud me to bring my TO onto the plane as a carry on) I picked up the station excellent in Naples. Ive heard its an "easy to dx" station. Just curious. WBBM is a 50KW station broadcast from the Sears Tower.
After dark (EST), WBBM booms in at my location near Lake Erie (Fairport Harbor, Ohio, near Cleveland) as if it were local.
Dave A 03-18-2007, 11:30 PM How about that AM in Cuba on 570AM with the time signal seconds tick overlayed on the talk-radio audio all the time. At the top of the minute is the time tone followed by a Morse code signal ("RR" I think) coming in to Philadelphia. Either CMNA at 10kw or CMEA at 30kw. There are a few US 570 stations with a nighttime 5kw rating that may interfere.
Heard it tonight on the car radio 50 miles north of Phila. Any corrections appreciated.
Dave A
matt_s78mn 03-19-2007, 01:41 AM How many of you are able to pull in AM 780 WBBM from chicago? I went on a trip to florida back in 2000 I brought my TO royal 3000 with me (before 911, they aloud me to bring my TO onto the plane as a carry on) I picked up the station excellent in Naples. Ive heard its an "easy to dx" station. Just curious. WBBM is a 50KW station broadcast from the Sears Tower.
I can pull in WBBM loud and clear here in Southeast Minnesota, and also was able to pull it in on occasion when I lived in Nebraska. I can also receive WLS and WGN here in MN as well.
Here in MN I've been able to catch WABC from New York and KOA from Denver on occasion.
radio63 03-19-2007, 06:26 PM Maybe 15-18 years ago I picked up Mexico City on my Philco model 90 using a metal window frame as an antenna. Station XEW was (is) 250,000 watts, and I picked up the very, very weak signal at 1-2 in the morning. On another occasion I was using one of my Zenith Trans-Oceanics with built-in antenna (either a 1000 or a 3000, can't remember for sure). Station KSDO here in San Diego signed off on 1130 KHz, and when the carrier went down, KWKH in Shreveport, LA came in. This was at about 2 in the morning or so. On another occasion with the Zenith I was able to pick up WLS in Chicago. Again in the wee hours and all of this DX went on in winter time. It sure was a lot of fun to DX!!
Gilbert
Pete Deksnis 03-21-2007, 09:09 AM Copied the then WCAU-AM, a NJ-based (just across the T-P bridge from Philly) 50-kW one-tower omnidirectional clear channel on 1210 kHz, on a Heath 'hi-fi' AM tuner with a hank of wire for an antenna. I was a stone's-throw away from Nenana, Alaska, circa 1961. Also, during the same period and at the same location, the then WHN, 1050 kHz, from NYC.
Sandy G 03-21-2007, 09:27 AM What about FM? I picked up a station in Warner-Robbins, Georgia, in Surgoinsville, Tennessee in a '79 Cutlass on its in-dash radio...On top of my grandmother's apartment was an FM antenna that, until the lead wire fell off, I could routinely pull in Atlanta stations, & stuff out of Raleigh/Durham in Rogersville...I had one of those JVC 4.5" color TV/AM/FM boomboxes, admittedly NOT the world's greatest DXing machine, but hooked up to that antenna, it came ALIVE on FM..
electronjohn 03-21-2007, 05:30 PM Back about 25 years ago, I was working the night shift at the old WDGY-1130 in Minneapolis...50KW days and 25KW nights...with an EXTREMELY tight night pattern beamed a little east of north. So tight, you could be driving in to the city from the south, see the lights on the 9 tower array, and barely hear the station. Well, one day I pull a packet from my mailbox covered with strange foreign stamps. Inside was a note, and a cassette from a DXer in Finland! On the tape was 10-15 minutes of my show!! There was some fading evident, but the signal was damn good. Needless to say the fellow got a QSL card, a bumper sticker and a coffee mug for his efforts! Even at 25KW, antenna gain in the main lobe gave an effective power of approximately 530KW...more than enough to make it over the pole. In fact, the station's Chief Engineer claimed the Russians had operated a jammer on 1130 during the height of the Cold War in the early 60's...evidently that decadent Western rock n roll was coming in like a local!
And, like other posters have mentioned, the mushrooming of stations operating at night on clear channels (even at ridiculously low power levels) has taken a lot of fun out of AM DXing. There's still some catches out there, though. Nearly every night in the dead of winter I could pick up a station on 530 from, I think, the island of Anguilla in the Carribean. 50KW on a relatively unpopulated frequency seems to work well. Same holds true for the expanded AM band from 1610 to 1710 khz...relatively unpopulated, and with slightly better propagation afforded by the higher MW frequency. Years ago, when the skip zones were aligned right, PJB, Trans World Radio 800kHz from Bonaire in the Netherlands Antilles was an easy catch in North America. An honest 500Kw helped do the trick, too. And, if the skip zones WEREN'T aligned right, XRock 80 out of Juarez at 150Kw occupied the frequency.
Thyratron 03-22-2007, 12:30 AM Wow, some really impressive stuff here. So should it be possible that, given the right conditions and equipment, an LA listener (for example) might pick up a Boston station? I'd imagine it would have to be nearly perfect conditions, but could it conceivably be done?
NowhereMan 1966 03-23-2007, 07:09 PM How about that AM in Cuba on 570AM with the time signal seconds tick overlayed on the talk-radio audio all the time. At the top of the minute is the time tone followed by a Morse code signal ("RR" I think) coming in to Philadelphia. Either CMNA at 10kw or CMEA at 30kw. There are a few US 570 stations with a nighttime 5kw rating that may interfere.
Heard it tonight on the car radio 50 miles north of Phila. Any corrections appreciated.
Dave A
That's "Radio Reloj" (Radio Clock), it is sort of a Cuban radio version of CNN where it is a news station. When I can't get Art Bell/George Noory/Ian Punnett on 104.7 Mc FM here in Pittsburgh, I listen to it on WKBN (that's the talk station you might be hearing) 570 kc out of Youngstown, OH. There are times though that even here in Pittsburgh, Radio Reloj "walks over" WKBN.
NowhereMan 1966 03-23-2007, 07:13 PM My records, well, 1610 KDIA (IIRC) from Berkeley, CA on my 1994 Ford Explorer's radio. I also received the Carribean Beacon on my DX-440 out of Anguila in the West Indies. I did receive a 1 kw station on 1620 out of College Station, TX on my little 8 transistor Magnavox. I did get WWV on 2500 kc on my grandfather's 5 tube 1953 Philco 2 bander using the internal antenna.
Jukin Jay 03-23-2007, 07:20 PM Is this considered cheating?
http://www.west.net/~jay/ariss.html
wajobu 03-23-2007, 07:52 PM Well, not counting Shortwave (Radio Japan, Australia, Radio Moscow, etc.), I would have to say that one morning early waiting for a haircut before dawn in the winter I was sitting in my car listening to a station in Atlanta...I was at the south shore in CT. On a regular basis, in the evenings, I listen to stations in Virginia 1110 AM, Chicago, Canada, etc.
In the early mornings on Saturday I listen to the Old Military Radio Net on 3.885 MHz--a few weekends back I was listening to a fellow in Punta Gorda in Florida from up here in CT--clear as a bell--excellent skip--just the interior telescoping antenna on my little portable Sony radio...most of the other Hammers were from NJ. CT, RI, ME, MA, etc.
I love radio.
Sandy G 03-23-2007, 08:26 PM Walker-I used to LOVE to listen to the hi-jinx on 3868, 3898, 3894...There was one guy Zimbabwe Jim, I think he lived in Virginia, who could stir 'em up just by keyin' his mike...Ever got a "numbers" station? Ever got a Pirate?
wajobu 03-23-2007, 08:31 PM Oh yes, Oh yes there Sandy. There were some REAL clowns on about 2 or 3 nights ago on about 3.895, I think. Keyin', belchin, laughin' and havin' a gud ol' time yessir! Some guy was also playin' some prerecorded sound effects er sumpin'.
Sandy G 03-23-2007, 08:38 PM Yeah, the byrds on 3898 & 3894 would get into a "war" w/each other"-Why, I'll give you a Good, Old-Fashioned Radio Ass-Whuppin'..." <grin> They'd insult each other's radios, bird dogs, mamas, spouses...
steve328is 03-23-2007, 09:17 PM I was at Andrews AFB in Maryland last year. I had just completed a long flight from central Asia and my internal clock was all messed up--I was wide awake at 0300. Using my TO 3000-1 I just caught the station ID "Radio Vision Cristiana, South Caicos, Turks and Caicos Island" or something very similar in English ~530KHz. Then it went to Spanish.
Sandy G 03-23-2007, 09:23 PM Where you are right now, Steve, would be a WILD place to do some DXing...IF you could understand what they're saying...
Dan Starnes 03-23-2007, 10:00 PM On my Hallifcrafters I can pull in the world, as well as the Zenith transoceanic. On my Emerson 541 and my Crosley 124 I can easily pull in WSM on saturday nites for the Grand Ole Opry, which is a few hundred miles from my Fowler IL home. Winter cloudy nites are the best for reception. Summer time storms mess with reception. Neat thread and really enjoy how others listen to the airwaves.
Dan
wajobu 03-23-2007, 10:05 PM Yes indeed...a good thread...
It's too easy to plug-into an internet based station...there's just something about wrestling with an analog dial and a drifting station on AM or SW.
I remember, late one night in the 1960s in Massachusetts, my new little crystal radio that I made (with an outdoor copper wire antenna) for AM reception started pulling in VOA (Voice Of America--a broadcast to Africa...not sure where the transmitter was though).
Sandy G 03-24-2007, 06:49 AM I remember fooling around w/my dad's Grundig portable-I got Radio Moscow on it-WOW !! The Russians ! The Godless Commies !! An' here I was listenin' to 'em ! I was hooked.
markallen 03-24-2007, 02:23 PM I'll never forget a "radio reception" experience I had as a teen. It was 1974, and one summer night I was driving back to the farm in my dad's new Ford pickup, returning from a wedding I'd attended. There was a terrific thunderstorm going on right on top of me, thundering and lightning non-stop. As the truck only had an AM radio, I was trying to tune in some of the local stations to get weather reports, but the static was so bad, it was basically worthless.
Suddenly, at one point on the dial the static was completely gone, and a station came in clear and strong. I listened for a little while, and while I don't remember the call letters, I do remember for certain that it was out of Albuquerque, New Mexico. I was driving in central North Dakota.
I still live here, and often listen to AM at night. I routinely pick up Chicago stations (WGN, WBBM, WLS), Salt Lake City (KSL?), Denver (KOA) and sometimes WBAP out of TX, to name a few. Usually reception is better in winter, maybe because of snow on the ground?
I listened to Radio China for awhile (English broadcast) on the '65 Sony portable last night.
steve328is 03-24-2007, 11:17 PM Where you are right now, Steve, would be a WILD place to do some DXing...IF you could understand what they're saying...
In my dorm room I can barely receive anything--inside a big metal box. The only advantage living in a tent has over a dorm room is canvas doesn't block radio signals! :D I was very limited in my baggage so I brought a Kaito KA-1103 portable instead of my trusty 3000-1. When it warms up enough at night I'm going to try to do some DXing outside here. I am able to get Chinese AM stations on the radio in my truck....
Dan Starnes 03-25-2007, 06:48 PM I remember vividly listening with my Dad on his, now mine Zenith transoceanic to the thrilla in manilla fight back in the 70's. Dad is now gone but I have 3 of the family radios, Crosley 124, Emerson 541 and the Zenith. I keep them well used and cared for. Yes, internet radio is neat and easy, but I agree, tuning in to the airwaves still has a magic to it. Heck, I still always look up in the air when I hear an airplane. My brother says it makes me look like a hick. I dont care. lol
Dan
Thyratron 04-07-2007, 12:07 AM All of this brings up an interesting question. Is there any reason that it seems tube equipment often brings in stations from further away than transistor equipment does? I'd think that, all other things being basically equal, it should be about the same, but is there any real difference?
Nolan Woodbury 04-07-2007, 01:35 AM That's a good question, but I think a lot of the answer is found in the various set-ups of verious radios. With the Superhet formula (antenna, r.f. amp, converter, i.f amp, detector, a.f amp then loudspeaker) signals are boosted to pretty sensitive levels. I'm not quite sure how it's done with solid state.
Sandy G 04-07-2007, 07:06 AM I remember reading back about 10 yrs or so ago that on a lot of the "primo" solid state communication receivers MW was deliberately de-sensitised.
Jeffhs 04-09-2007, 09:40 PM I remember reading back about 10 yrs or so ago that on a lot of the "primo" solid state communication receivers MW was deliberately de-sensitised.
The AM (MW) sections of most AM/FM receivers made in the last 30 years or so are not worth a hill of beans; that is, they may work well enough for local reception in close-in areas such as the near suburbs of major cities (or in the cities themselves), but any real distance from anything other than 50kW stations, forget it. Case in point: In the '80s, I had a Zenith four-mode integrated stereo system with an FM section which pulled in every major Cleveland station in stereo just fine, using just the line cord antenna (I lived about 15 miles closer to Cleveland at the time). The AM reception, however, left an awful lot to be desired. During daylight hours I could get most of the major Cleveland AMs, but at night all but the big 50kW stations were all but inaudible. On top of that, the AM section in my stereo was, IMHO, so poorly designed that I was hearing shortwave at certain points on the AM dial after dark. The AM tuner in my present stereo system (Aiwa 200-watt bookshelf system) isn't much better, and the FM tuner isn't much good either in this signal area some 30-40 miles southwest of the Cleveland FMs (I have a powered indoor "tower" antenna hooked up to it). I live about five miles from a 1kW (0.5kW or 500 watts nights) AM station that will appear at two points on the dial on my system's tuner, 0.9 MHz or 900 kHz apart--560 and 1460 kHz, the latter being the station's fundamental (assigned) frequency. Doesn't bother me, especially (or at all), as I don't listen to AM that much anyhow.
radioactive 04-10-2007, 02:06 AM i dont know if this has been brought up yet(too lazy to look) but if you want to dx the am broadcast band and dont have a decent am tuner or antenna i suggest using your car radio:yes: they're usally made to better specs (for cancelling out noise anyways)give it a shot especailly after sunset and report back here pronto :D
radioactive 04-10-2007, 02:13 AM . Case in point: In the '80s, I had a Zenith four-mode integrated stereo system with an FM section which pulled in every major Cleveland station in stereo just fine, using just the line cord antenna (I lived about 15 miles closer to Cleveland at the time). The AM reception, however, left an awful lot to be desired. During daylight hours I could get most of the major Cleveland AMs, but at night all but the big 50kW stations were all but inaudible. On top of that, the AM section in my stereo was, IMHO, so poorly designed that I was hearing shortwave at certain points on the AM dial after dark.
sounds like a all to common problem.most mfg of tuners that included am rarely paid attention to that band.there is a few like the philips ah673 that with a good signal can actually provide something worth listening to.my tu9900 is not too bad either for am but when push comes to shove i haul out my tube communication receivers that seem to pull the signals out of the mud when i want to do some serious dx'ing.
I live about five miles from a 1kW (0.5kW or 500 watts nights) AM station that will appear at two points on the dial on my system's tuner, 0.9 MHz or 900 kHz apart--560 and 1460 kHz, the latter being the station's fundamental (assigned) frequency. Doesn't bother me, especially (or at all), as I don't listen to AM that much anyhow.
what your experiencing is imaging and is a indactor or the receiver to reject them.
What older tube radios are considered exceptionally good for AM dx'ing? I've been listening to more AM lately, and been considering looking around for a few more radios.
For the past week or so I've been listening to a 1935 Truetone wooden table radio here at my desk, been using it for several hours a night and it's still going strong with all original tubes and caps.
Rob Mills 04-10-2007, 10:39 AM I can hook my McKay Dymek DA-5 ferrite bar antenna to my GE Super one (or two) and haul in a station every 10 khz on the mw band just about any evening.
Keep thinking that I'll try it (the DA-5) on my 2000X (now that I think about it, don't think I've ever had it on am) but never got around to it. I have tried it on several boat anchors but it seems right at home on the GE's
Sandy G 04-10-2007, 11:56 AM I hooked up my KIWA MW Loop to a friend's 1930s tombstone, & it was like the radio came alive-it was Sunday afternoon, & we were picking up one-lunger daytimers out of Kentucky from our NE Tenn. location.
zenith2134 04-10-2007, 03:30 PM Furthest ever for me was on FM , with a 1972-3ish Marantz 2270 at a buddie's home. He had a large rooftop antenna he used for vhf tv and fm, no splitters until further down the line near the receiver. He also used a rotator. We were listening to some rock on ~ 89 MHZ and I was playing around with the rotator.
All of a sudden, I got Strong skip on that station-- and we were astonished to hear Saskatchewan, CANADA - an alternative station , appearantly low-power FM, too! From the extreme south of New york, that was an impressive distance without even trying. Very strong and clear reception also.
kg4cna 06-15-2007, 09:50 PM Being located in extreme southern Alabama, I can hear WSB-750 Atlanta very clear at night. I like listening to Krok Talk with Chris Krok starting at 9PM central time. I can also hear WSM-650 Nashville, WBBM-Chicago and sometimes WWL in New Orleans on my Zenith C835. This radio has opened up the AM band to me again...and I am enjoying it! Amazing how this radio picks up so much better than the junk being made today.
On the FM side, the station I work for (103.7) comes in okay...but at 103.5 there is a station I cannot normally pickup that comes blowin' in during the morning hours and right around 104.1 is another I don't normally hear. They carry Braves baseball and, I think, preaching. I can hear a preacher screaming and some heavy gospel on there at different times.
Just amazing what this radio can hear...all with the built-in antenna.
Sandy G 06-15-2007, 10:04 PM That reminds me-I REALLY need to get my "good" antenna back up- a limb fell out of a tree I had one end of it hooked to, & took out about 50' or so. I'm "makin' do" w/only 20' or so of outside antenna-Basically the lead in from the section that got K.O.-ed. May hold off, this IS the thunderstorm season, we've been pretty good in having about one every other night or so.
Trance88 12-29-2008, 06:14 PM The farthest I've ever been able to receive an AM radio signal is from Colorado on my 1956 Crosley AM Radio.
marty59 12-29-2008, 08:45 PM How many of you are able to pull in AM 780 WBBM from chicago? I went on a trip to florida back in 2000 I brought my TO royal 3000 with me (before 911, they aloud me to bring my TO onto the plane as a carry on) I picked up the station excellent in Naples. Ive heard its an "easy to dx" station. Just curious. WBBM is a 50KW station broadcast from the Sears Tower.
I can receive it here! WLS easily too.
ablethevoice 12-29-2008, 09:30 PM I'll never forget a "radio reception" experience I had as a teen. It was 1974, and one summer night I was driving back to the farm in my dad's new Ford pickup, returning from a wedding I'd attended. There was a terrific thunderstorm going on right on top of me, thundering and lightning non-stop. As the truck only had an AM radio, I was trying to tune in some of the local stations to get weather reports, but the static was so bad, it was basically worthless.
Suddenly, at one point on the dial the static was completely gone, and a station came in clear and strong. I listened for a little while, and while I don't remember the call letters, I do remember for certain that it was out of Albuquerque, New Mexico. I was driving in central North Dakota.
I still live here, and often listen to AM at night. I routinely pick up Chicago stations (WGN, WBBM, WLS), Salt Lake City (KSL?), Denver (KOA) and sometimes WBAP out of TX, to name a few. Usually reception is better in winter, maybe because of snow on the ground?
That was very probably 770 KOB. Albuquerque (at least as far as I know; I've been away from NM for 11 years now) only has one 50KW station. I used to tune them in with local like strength in the early 70s on a no-name multiband SS receiver I carried with me on family vacations in Mexico - a good 800+ miles from the transmitter site. Later (1990 or so) while on graveyard duty at that very same station, I got a (satellite) telephone call from a guy who turned out to be the radio operator on a luxury yacht listening to KOB while sailing on the South China Sea!
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My most distant catch on AM with no external antenna was on one of those POS AM/FM turntable/cassette all in one units I had as a kid (about 1975). I was in Albuquerque at the time. I don't recall the call letters but I DO recall the station ID saying Regina Saskatchewan Canada. It was during the Christmas break at about 2AM with the weather outside being overcast and about 10 below zero F. The signal was extremely faint but acceptably free of atmospheric noise and interference from closer stations. I looked for them the next night and I couldn't find them again. Ahh... the caprices of the ionosphere!
Back in 1987, I was working for a news-talk station (1580 KZIA; now off the air). One morning while preparing to leave (I did graveyards), the secretary handed me a package with a lot of foreign stamps on it. She said, "I don't know who else to give this to; This is from Finland." Rather puzzled, I took the package to the production room and opened the package. In it, I found a tape, a reception report, and a rather plaintive letter from a Finnish DXer who had attempted to get a verification from the station for several years(!). The cassette he sent was faint but clear and contained one of the drop-ins we used as a program rejoiner which said "The Power of Information... K Z I A Albuquerque!". I didn't have to do the time conversion between where he was and where we were to know that we only used that particular drop-in during the night time hours in Albuquerque...hours when KZIA's transmitter power was reduced from 10KW to FORTY-SEVEN watts!
I hand-made a QSL for the poor fellow and made it a point to note that his catch was on a station operating at near QRP levels (at least for MW) and he had a great deal to brag about to his buddies in his local DX club.
ke4mcl 12-30-2008, 12:45 PM about 20 years ago as a kid i picked up some antarctic scientific station on short wave while knob twiddling. i was using a blaupunkt barcelona chassis mounted inside a telefunken cabinet i found at my dads auto wrecking yard. antenna was a peice of wire about 6 feet long hanging out of the radio. im in miami fl so that was a good haul!
redcoates7 12-30-2008, 01:39 PM I heard my old hometown AM Station WGIR (Manchester NH) while sitting in my Dad'd pickup in Mcveytown PA It's only about 450 miles, but I thought it was just the coolest thing ever
Sandy G 12-30-2008, 03:15 PM I picked up a Warner-Robbins, Georgia FM station once, sitting outside of a burger place in Surgoinsville, Tennessee, on a 1980 Olds Cutlass factory AM/FM set. It was on a Saturday in the fall, it was cool, & I think they were getting ready for a football game...
goraman 12-30-2008, 03:38 PM Calgeri Canada from Roseville,Ca. just east of Sacramento on AM.
Suangean ATS 818 with a long wire ant.
John James 12-30-2008, 04:14 PM 1968, 1969 etc., in my '66 Mustang, I used to get Fort Wayne, In. (don't know the call sign) down in Myrtle Beach, S.C. It was a good rock station then. We thought it was "cool" to hear something from so far away. To top it off, we were from Charlotte, so it was "outa site"!
(It may have been WOWO) :music::music:
AUdubon5425 12-30-2008, 07:37 PM From 1997 to 1999 I lived in Fargo, No. Dak. & Moorhead, Minn. Inside of my apartment, 10 feet from a window with no external antenna, I would occasionally pick up WWL back home in New Orleans faintly before dawn, usually in & out for 30-45 minutes. This was on a mid-60's GE AM-FM portable.
I sent off for a QSL card in 1998 - two years later I received it, it had been forwarded twice (from Moorhead, Minn. to Fargo and then to New Orleans.) I'll have to find that card one day.
I did drive from Fargo to New Orleans one weekend listening to KMOX St. Louis the entire way down.
Jeffhs 12-30-2008, 09:43 PM 1968, 1969 etc., in my '66 Mustang, I used to get Fort Wayne, In. (don't know the call sign) down in Myrtle Beach, S.C. It was a good rock station then. We thought it was "cool" to hear something from so far away. To top it off, we were from Charlotte, so it was "outa site"!
(It may have been WOWO) :music::music:
It wouldn't surprise me if it was WOWO 1190, Westinghouse Broadcasting's 50kW rock station in Fort Wayne -- that city's only 50kW AM station. Until about twenty-five years ago, that station was clear-channel 50kw covering 38 states, so it could very easily reach your area at night, the reason being that, until the FCC did away with clear channel AM in the mid-1980s, a 50kW station on any of the so-called "clear" AM broadcast channels--660, 670, 700, 800, 880, 890, etc.--had the frequency all to itself all night long, as any daytime stations on the frequency had to sign off after local sunset. The powerhouse signals of stations such as WNBC (now WFAN) 660 New York, WMAQ (now WSCR) 670 Chicago, 700 WLW Cincinnati, 800 CKLW Windsor/Detroit, WKYC 1100 Cleveland (now WTAM), et al. were heard after dark just about anywhere in the US in those days, except on the coasts, where the "other" 50kW station was located (in the days of clear channels, only two 50kW stations normally operated on the frequencies after dark; they were located on the east and west coasts of the US, or close to them). Today, even a 50kW station must use directional antenna patterns and/or reduce its power output so as to limit its coverage to no more than 750 miles; this has taken almost all the fun and mystery out of AM DXing unless you listen for stations on the so-called "graveyard" or local channels--those frequencies used by small local-service stations operating at 1kW or less. This type of DXing requires a lot of patience and concentration, as most of the time you will hear little more than a jumble of stations on these frequencies. Every once in a while, however, one signal will rise above the noise and will be heard, if only for a few seconds or minutes, and if you're lucky, that station will be a real piece of DX gold. I'll never forget one Sunday night about 20 years ago, when one of the local AM stations in Cleveland signed off for technical maintenance. Imagine my dumbfounded surprise when, a few minutes after the Cleveland station signed off, I heard news-talk station KOA in Denver, Colorado, booming in as well as if it were local! I was listening at the time with the AM tuner section of my Zenith integrated four-mode stereo system, using only its built-in ferrite loopstick AM antenna.
I never heard KOA again. The furthest AM DX I normally get here in northeastern Ohio at night is KMOX in St. Louis. I used to be able to hear WBAP in Dallas, but haven't heard from them in some time; maybe the antenna-pattern restrictions at night have something to do with it. Another station I hear quite often at night is WCCO 830 in Minneapolis, after a daytimer about 80 miles east of here on that frequency signs off for the night; then there's WHAS 840 in Louisville, Kentucky, WWL-AM 870 in New Orleans (the first time I ever heard that station was during Hurricane Katrina, when WWL was in emergency mode), WCBS 880 New York, WLS Talk Radio 890 in Chicago, WWJ 950 Detroit, WCFL 1000 Chicago, WBZ 1030 Boston, KYW 1060 Philadelphia ... and the list goes on. I have a Zenith C845 high-performance radio with an RF stage and two IF stages on both AM and FM, so I'll have to tune around on it some night and see what else I can snag. Even with the built-in Wavemagnet antenna (an outdoor wire is out of the question, as I live in an apartment building), some day I should be able to hear stations way out west, like Colorado, New Mexico, Arizona, Utah, California ... if the conditions are ever right for that kind of DX reception from the eastern Great Lakes. I wonder how nowhereman1966 in the Pittsburgh area managed to snag a Los Angeles AM station on his car radio a few months ago (his post describing that is somewhere in this thread) using only a 31" car antenna, and if it ever happened again. The AM propagation conditions must have been just right that day or night, not unlike what the conditions must have been like the night I heard KOA in Denver.
zenithfan1 12-30-2008, 09:46 PM Furthest for me was picking up AM 1140 WRVA out of Richmond, Virginia. I also get one from Texas once in a while but I forgot the call letters and numbers. I get these on my 1963 Admiral clock radio by my bed, been good to me for 11 years now. Only changed 2 tubes so far. One when I got it and one recently. I also can pick em up on my Zenith radios. Not so much on my transistor ones, just the '63 Sony in the bathroom.
majoco 12-31-2008, 04:01 PM I know it's not vintage, but my little Degen (Kaito to you!) 1103 regularly gets G and EI (Ireland) amateurs on the 80m band during the gray line. This is just using the whip antenna. Good little radio, hears the NY aero weather every evening on 6604kHz (that's evening here, say midnight in LA!)
Sir.Byrd 12-31-2008, 04:03 PM I can barely get local stations. The hill I live on blocks most of them out =(
wa2ise 12-31-2008, 05:39 PM Back in the '70's, in northeast NJ, I once picked up a Jesuscaster from Iowa, somewhere near 1500KHz. Very rare to hear a "K" station deep here in "W" land. :D Though "C" (Canadian) stations are fairly easy.
jeffsod 12-31-2008, 08:59 PM and several 50kW Canadian stations, such as AM 740 in Toronto
Was listening to this station tonight from the Metro South Boston suburbs. They had a dance party show and were playing a good variety. Cool to be listening to a station so far away.
Nortryder 01-01-2009, 04:15 PM "Duluth? Why you can get Terra del Fuego!" We moved to VT in 1958 and used to listen to WOR out of NYC. The amazing part was that it was Jean Shepard that we listened to. Wish I could do that now.
Mike
majoco 01-01-2009, 08:16 PM Nolan Woodbury said:
I think a lot of the answer is found in the various set-ups of verious radios. With the Superhet formula (antenna, r.f. amp, converter, i.f amp, detector, a.f amp then loudspeaker) signals are boosted to pretty sensitive levels. I'm not quite sure how it's done with solid state.
A superhet is a superhet - it doesn't matter whether it's hollow state or solid state! A single tube has possibly more gain than a single transistor, hence common mantle radios for local stations may have only needed 4 tubes in the radio circuit, where most SS radios had 6 transistors of which 3 were in the audio stages! Now that we have radios with hundreds of transistors in only three or four integrated circuits, it's possible to build digital display phase locked all-frequency super-sensitive radios for less cost than ever before.
Mind you, I would still like to see a shoot-out between a R390A against a WJ HF1000 on sheer performance, not the bells and whistles.
Best wishes for 2009 to everybody.
electronjohn 01-02-2009, 05:55 PM An old car radio running off a 12v battery or a converter can be a great AM DX rig, since they were optimized to work with that car whip antenna. Hook up any kind of longwire and the results can be impressive. Of course, tubes are a fun way to go...just have to block out the vibrator buzz!!
electronjohn 01-07-2009, 04:20 PM Just came in from the car...4:15 CST. 700 WLW, Cincinnatti, WSCR, WGN & WBBM Chicago all booming in...with the sun still up in W. Central MN! No WLS...co-channel in NDak with a big signal hasn't cut power yet. I love AM in the winter!
Hemingray 01-07-2009, 05:03 PM This makes me think back to a day in 07 when there was IMPRESSIVE skip happening the whole day. The skip was so bad that local stations were being blown off of the FM band like crazy. Not sure if it was or not, but I think I had a Miami, FL station on 100.7 FM up near Hardy, AR that day, that hung with me the entire way back to my home, on a cheap durabrand car stereo no less! Another night, I had DTV skip, receiving WLMT-DT, WPTY-DT from Memphis, TN. No digital from WMC at the time sadly, or WREG.
electroking 01-07-2009, 06:22 PM An old car radio running off a 12v battery or a converter can be a great AM DX rig, since they were optimized to work with that car whip antenna. Hook up any kind of longwire and the results can be impressive. Of course, tubes are a fun way to go...just have to block out the vibrator buzz!!
Aren't most of the tube-type car radios in existence of the 'low plate
potential' type, with a big PNP germanium output transistor? I know that
these came up only around 1957, but I haven't seen a vibrator type
car radio in years.
Hemingray 01-07-2009, 07:54 PM Aren't most of the tube-type car radios in existence of the 'low plate
potential' type, with a big PNP germanium output transistor? I know that
these came up only around 1957, but I haven't seen a vibrator type
car radio in years.
Thumb through this forum for my post on Battery Vibrators. I have my AM car radio pictured there, which is 100% tube. (6BE6, 6BA6, 6AV6, 6AQ5, 6X4 (6CS6 in place of 6BE6).
NowhereMan 1966 01-07-2009, 08:03 PM Just came in from the car...4:15 CST. 700 WLW, Cincinnatti, WSCR, WGN & WBBM Chicago all booming in...with the sun still up in W. Central MN! No WLS...co-channel in NDak with a big signal hasn't cut power yet. I love AM in the winter!
I remember when I listened to the Chuck Harder Show on WASP (1130 kc) here in Pittsburgh, sometimes in the winter, a New York City station, WBBR I think, would come in about 3:30 PM in the day and "walk over" WASP.
AUdubon5425 01-08-2009, 02:15 PM Tuesday night I managed to pick up KFYR in Bismarck, No. Dak. for about 30 seconds. Normally KTSA San Antonio is somewhat listenable - when it fades out a Mexican station can be heard. Guess KTSA and the mexican station both faded out at the same time, allowing me to barely hear a local commercial, station ID and rejoin for the Art Bell Program.
Bismarck is over 1500 miles from New Orleans as the crow flies. Wonder if they'll send me a QSL card if I write (haven't done that in years!)
electronjohn 01-08-2009, 04:57 PM Sure! Drop 'em a note and ask for a QSL. KFYR is quite the station...5kW with a 5/8 wave self-supporting tower (old school, for sure). Sitting on 550 in that rich Missouri River valley soil at Bismarck gives them one of the largest groundwave coverage areas in the US. Skywave ain't no slouch, either.
ablethevoice 01-08-2009, 05:24 PM Here's a couple of not-trying-too-hard catches I've made in the last couple of days.
The RX is my Hammarlund HQ 145X and the antenna system is a pair of longwire antenna end fed to the leadin. One wire is 100 ft running E-W and the other running N-S. My location is NW Florida about 40 miles N of Pensacola at about 31 deg N 87 deg W:
WXM 650 Nashville
WBBM 780 Chicago
WJR 760 Detroit
WLOR 1550 Huntsville AL.
WPHT 1210 Philly, PA
These were all grey period listening sessions.
Question: Do any stations still do on-air transmitter checks? You know, with the tone sweeps and such like they used to do back in the "good old days"?
I once tuned in a 500W daytime only station in Falfurrias TX (don't recall the call or dial position) at about 3am MST from my Albuquerque NM location while they were doing their tests.
Sam Cogley 01-08-2009, 06:28 PM I can't remember the frequency, but I picked up an Atlanta AM station in my car in the St. Louis area back in high school. Braves game, Atlanta ads. I can't remember anything further than that.
Now if we want to talk about shortwave...my Euro-spec Philips pocket radio is a champ. :D
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