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Old 02-14-2016, 09:50 AM
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Why do BBC shows have 'Producers'??

Ever seen the credits for a BBC show? They give credit for 'Producers'.
What kind of a 'producer' would be a Government bureaucrat?
He's not risking his own or investor's money.
His financial state or reputation doesn't suffer if the show flops!
And of course he can't be fired, even if he loses $10,000,000!
Nobody gets fired from their featherbed jobs at the BBC.
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Old 02-14-2016, 10:45 AM
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There are various different types of producers in TV and film. Some have the original idea, and wrangle the money -- either finding it or supplying it.
The others wrangle the production process, overseeing budget, staffing, production and post processes with an eye toward realizing the creative vision.
It's a balance between the director and producer, but ultimately the producer has responsibility for control of the project. This all needs to happen in a corporate setting like BBC. If a BBC producer goes ten million over budget, he can certainly be canned -- or made "no longer a producer".

I'm guessing that the BBC also supports externally-funded business model (here's a show, we'll make it, you buy it and air it) sort of like most US TV.

Wiki probably has good descriptions, that I'll let you discover. Look at Producer, Executive Producer, Line Producer, etc.

Contributing writers, actors with decision making privileges or a significant financial stake, creative mentors who are "on call" (like Jon Stewart for Colbert's old and new show), and folks who did something for the production, but are not otherwise classified are given producer, co-producer, or assistant producer credits.

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Old 02-14-2016, 01:32 PM
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I used to work for the BBC and you do not know what you are talking about. The BBC is independent of government and funding is via the license fee and program sales.

The BBC have outsourced programs for many years. And if a producer flops then they get the sack (fired)!
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Old 02-15-2016, 10:47 AM
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The ones inside the BBC are the fakes; they don't fit the traditional free-enterprise definition of a Producer, and make a mockery of the challenges real Producers - in the real world - face.
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Old 02-15-2016, 03:50 PM
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The BBC is independent of government and funding is via the license fee and program sales.
Uh ... the license fee is a tax, so it is NOT independent of the government.
In the US NPR and PBS are the not quite same, as their government
funding comes from general revenue, and is funneled through a sham
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Old 02-16-2016, 02:39 AM
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NPR and PBS funds are decided by Congress. In the UK, the license fee is capped by government. The BBC is independent of government except by the license.

The BBC funding has always been limited. To suggest that a BBC producer is cradled is nonsense: if he doesn't make it, he gets the sack.

BBC programming quality is high and much cheaper to produce than US television. I remember we mused years ago that the cost of a 30 second spot in the last episode of MASH would have paid for at least two complete BBC costume dramas.

The BBC for more than a decade, has farmed out productions out of house as it is more cost effective. So you can't even say today that a BBC producer even works for the corporation.

Why don't you research the subject a bit more before making unqualified criticisms?

As for the broadcast unions, the ones in the US are far more militant and confrontational.
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...NPR and PBS ...funding ... is funneled through a sham
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You must mean the CPB, always thought strange and suspicious
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. The BBC is independent of government except by the license.
"except by the license"? That's a big exception:
If you don't pay BBC-tax you can have Her Majesty's police at your door.
(see youtube "TV licence search-warrants").
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Well, at least we have established that the discussion is about people with financial responsibility. In U.S. radio and TV, "Producer" is also used to denote a staff position that chases down source material, gets copyright clearances, wrangles guests, etc. etc., in other words makes sure the essential and auxiliary elements of the program are obtained and available. [Edit: I believe these producers often do not appear in the credits.]
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Old 02-19-2016, 11:31 AM
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Not to drift off topic.How collectors over in UK collect TV sets.Do they need a license certificate for each set dead or alive.

I agree .The producer is the person that oversees the production .I think it does not matter if station is state run or not.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Television_producer.

I love watching programming from over there.


BBC news behind the scene.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jHG1DeoKqQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhGvGRlki64
Heres some BBC news blooper.WARNING These will have you LOL.............

Watch the robotic cameras going out of control.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPdMTB7d2JY



https://youtu.be/0hkBAmn5yKo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpIty5Zb0S8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyA9gfUMuPs
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The UK TV licence covers unlimited sets at an address, I have 5 TV's & 1 TV licence..
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The UK TV licence covers unlimited sets at an address, I have 5 TV's & 1 TV licence..
Thanks for the tip.Thank goodness.We'll be broke if it was the other way around.

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Don't pay it if you don't agree with archaic socialist television.
Let the Labour Party supporters pay this excise tax if they like it.
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Old 02-20-2016, 07:34 AM
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Don't pay it if you don't agree with archaic socialist television.
Let the Labour Party supporters pay this excise tax if they like it.
Trouble is if you get caught watching TV without a licence you can be fined & even go to prison, & you get a criminal record so cannot have visa free travel to USA & many other Countries..
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Old 02-20-2016, 12:35 PM
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FWIW .I think I rather pay for a licence for better TV programming then for the crap the states is dishing out for the last 25 years.

Most of our TV shows are getting hacked shorter for more adverts.We are now lucky to get 20 minutes of show on a half hour show .Plus station preempting regular shows for infomercials.

I always enjoy watching the UK shows on PBS.
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