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It's amazing how far TV's have come just in my lifetime. In my area, if one had a remote control cable ready TV in the '80's, that was a big deal. Heck, I was very excited when my Dad bought our first VCR in the mid '80's. I was probably just as excited over that VCR as kids were in the '50's and '60's when they saw color for the first time. I too remember B&W sets being a common sight in homes up until the late '80's or early '90's. Really, the "fancy" TV's didn't become common here until the prices of new TV's started coming down to the "give away" level. I've known several older people that didn't want any part of a color TV. My 10th grade English teacher had a little Korean built 12" Sears B&W in the mid '90's and she didn't want anything else. It won't take long looking at the various TV forums on this site to determine that this is a very diverse hobby. This forum is geared towards pre mid-60's color sets and late roundies (as has been mentioned), the B&W forum is geared towards early B&W, and the Rectangular tube and SS forum will reveal collecting interest from the early rectangular sets of the '60's up to the present. Some collectors, like me, are interested in all aspects of this hobby. Others may only focus on a certain era. BTW, I would consider your hybrid Sylvania a classic. I don't think I've ever had my hands on a tube-type Sylvania. The oldest ones I remember finding were some mid '70's hospital sets. |
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In Europe, color TV was delayed due to expenses of converting studio equipment and the costs of TV sets. In PAL countries, Monochrome and Colour TV weren't compatible like NTSC is. So these countries had to run separate Colour and Monochrome transmissions. Norway got Colour TV in 1967. |
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Another reason was the colour system itself, the Europeans wanted a colour system without hue or tint control. Quote:
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Yes, age of the collector certianly is the main factor as to what is considered "vintage". I was born in '83. Its hard to say, I somewhat "grew up" with the types of sets I collect, although both neighbors had working space command 400 b/w sets in their basements that I remember very well. Grandfather had a 4 tube hybrid in the back room in his old home in chicago also had a portacolor in his RV. My Uncle Rick had the exact same 4 tube hybrid in his apartment. These sets were still used from time to time and this was back in the early 90's. So when I saw those, it was something new for me and I appriciated them as they were never seen anywhere else (like at home or friends etc). Late 60's-70's sets were always at the resale shop though at this time. So in a way, I did kind of "grow up" with them but in a totally different way than someone say 20-30 years older than I am. They were what was "left over" and not in daily common use. That being said, those sets that I liked as a kid fascinated me and Ive been interested in collecting and repair them ever since. Thus, a TV 15 years older than me from 1968, while not really "early color TV" is something of special value as they were from I time I wasnt part of and have appriciation for them. This needs to be considered before someone decides to insult someone as to what they like to collect as Ive had insulting comments as to the type of sets I collect thrown at me in the past from fellow "collectors".
Today we laugh at the "black plastic box" CRT sets. im sure there are kids out there right now an in 20 years when they are my age, they will be collecting these same sets as they think they are cool as its something new for them. And here I am, I was part of the "black plastic box" TV generation. Ive been there and done that and its nothing new, so I dont care to collect them. Same goes for the 55-60 year old guy today who was 20 years old in 1968 who could care less about the new sets of those days. You were there and you were part of it, so its nothing new for you. Thats just the way I see though. One persons opinion though......... |
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I couldn't have said it better myself. I am a 60's fanatic. I love that decade and collect lots of stuff from it. People who grew up with that stuff could care less. I had one Guy say " You call that old" ? I furnished my home & office with traditional furniture which is the style I like, but I wanted it to be from "the 1960's"....Antiquers will look down at my stuff and brag to me about their 1903 Chippendale sofa.....and I am thrilled to have a Vintage French Provincial sofa from 1963 sitting in my office. Like you said,since I wasn't a part of the 60's, I get a thrill out of digging this stuff up. Even though some people think I'm nuts for wanting "that crap" A lot of people never ask me about my old TV set. They probably assume I dug it out of the trash or was a Goodwill find. |
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In a way, I'm glad some people consider our collections as "crap." That means more toys are available, usually cheap!
Yes, I've heard my share of insults from collectors and non-collectors. I've found that some old radio collectors will turn their nose up at anything newer than the '20's. I really like diversity as long as it's kept "friendly". That way, I can pass '20's stuff on to someone that collects that era and they can pass their newer stuff on to me. |
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For me ... my recollection of colour arriving drives my interest. I saw colour television for the first time in 1966 at the age of 11 ...it was so amazing.
I purchased my first set in time for the test broadcasts in 1974. A Philips 22" K9 series set. All IC, rectangular tube ... so way out of "early" by this forum's standards. But as I said at the beginning of this thread... time and technology are moving fast and soon there will be no CRT sets left to buy. So soon "early" will mean CRT and analogue!! And let's not get started on Beta and VHS etc!
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Darn, I used to know-it was somewhere in the 68-72 era, and I want to say the earlier. It's possible, though, that the figures I saw were based on total value of the sets sold and not production numbers. I had started a timeline based on the news reports in old trade magazines, but never took the time to get it very far.
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Thank you for the info, that looks interesting. That table gives a sharp peak for color TV sales in 1973, could that be related to the oil crisis? |
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The definition for the Audiokarma forums seems pretty easy to define, based on the different sections. One forum is for "rectangular and solid-state", the other one is not. That tells me that any round-CRT color TV is an "early" set, any rectangular-CRT one is not, even though many of those may be considered classic designs and/or construction.
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I think it was 1972 or thereabouts. Although we had color as early as 1954, it did take a while. Usually having a color set from the 1950s into the 1960s meant that you were pretty well off. I know my aunt, she had an old RCA roundie from the early 1960's, maybe a CTC-14 or 16, I remember it said "Vista-Color" on it.
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