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Old 04-10-2008, 11:34 PM
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17" rectangular color tube in 1962, wow.
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Old 04-11-2008, 02:36 AM
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All the picture tubes in the above sets were made in the USA.
Jap made tubes except for the trinitron were not common till the 70's when they started importing 19" and below completed color tv sets. Any thing over 19" even if it was a Jap set had a USA made tube in it till about the late 70's, early 80's.
The 27" Sony Trinitron tube was made and assembled in the USA of USA parts except for the electron gun.
Later on Jap tubes showed up in more sets up to 25".
The poorest quality tubes were made in Tawain. They would lose vacuum after 2 years from the poorly made frit material sealing the panel and funnel.
Tubes made in the netherlands by Phillips were also junk.
The American made tube has never been surpassed in regard to quality, durability, and very long service life.
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Old 04-11-2008, 09:24 PM
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The 14" set (bw, looks like) sure copies the old 630ts design. Unique.

I remember some discussions here about the 17" Japanese color sets and how they were sold by Sears. Large neck crt like a roundie? I don't believe that particular one could have been sourced from the US, or else our manufacturers would have been all over it.
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Old 04-11-2008, 10:46 PM
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I worked next door to a Sears catalog store from 1963 to 1970. I remember when they got the first 17" color set in. It looked funny on long legs but had a good picture.
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Old 04-11-2008, 10:53 PM
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The 14" set (bw, looks like) sure copies the old 630ts design. Unique.

I remember some discussions here about the 17" Japanese color sets and how they were sold by Sears. Large neck crt like a roundie? I don't believe that particular one could have been sourced from the US, or else our manufacturers would have been all over it.
That tube was a 17ENP22, made in the USA, glass componets were from Corning Glass. By today's standards, it would be considered stupid.
back then, that tube was also used in practically every Conrac (brand) Televion Station monitor.
By the time the Japs made a few of those tubes, they were obsolete.
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Old 04-12-2008, 03:49 PM
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5 will get ya 10 that this roundie has a CTC series clone chassis in it! This TV is veddy American inspired and sure has American components in it.
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Old 04-12-2008, 06:56 PM
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Yeah, we had one of those funky Sears color sets way, way back.. It was absolute crap...About a year-18 months later my dad got one of the 1st Porta-Colors, & it rarely ever gave any trouble.
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Old 04-12-2008, 08:17 PM
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Tubes made in the netherlands by Phillips were also junk.
Not in my experience... Philips CRTs made in the 60s-80s time frame are almost immune from wear, i have yet to find a set with a bad Philips CRT, even the extremely high hour ones with severe screen burn i took out of old railway monitors still had strong emission from all 3 guns!
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ebert, did you (do you?) work in the crt business?
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Old 04-15-2008, 09:07 AM
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It certainly looks like a Japanese clone of the RCA CTC7 WITH a 21CYP22. Patterned after it with all tubes in the same location. This would have to be an extremely rare set because people at that time would have a hard time buying any Japanese products as they were considered cheap copies and inferior. Also having a brand name like "Hitachi" or otherwise in your living room in this country would "brand" you back then even up to the late '60's. I remember acquiring a Hitachi about that time and finally sold it. It was a 19" rectangular console and had a beautiful color picture!
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It certainly looks like a Japanese clone of the RCA CTC7 WITH a 21CYP22. Patterned after it with all tubes in the same location. This would have to be an extremely rare set because people at that time would have a hard time buying any Japanese products as they were considered cheap copies and inferior. Also having a brand name like "Hitachi" or otherwise in your living room in this country would "brand" you back then even up to the late '60's. I remember acquiring a Hitachi about that time and finally sold it. It was a 19" rectangular console and had a beautiful color picture!
Interesting discussion, but these sets are from the domestic Japanese
market, and I don't believe that U.S. made sets were competing with
them, with the well known Japanese nationalism. And as mentioned,
the channel frequencies would not be directly compatible.
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Old 04-18-2008, 02:19 AM
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Ain't that a "Hitachi" CT-150 with a 21CYP22A picture tube?
It's very simillar to this one: http://audiokarma.org/forums/attachm...0&d=1208504122

Here is the topic: http://audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=22009
Where did you spot the tv set?
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Old 04-23-2008, 08:54 AM
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That tube was a 17ENP22, made in the USA, glass componets were from Corning Glass. By today's standards, it would be considered stupid.

what do you mean?
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That cabinet reminds me a lot of the Philips K4.

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Not in my experience... Philips CRTs made in the 60s-80s time frame are almost immune from wear, i have yet to find a set with a bad Philips CRT, even the extremely high hour ones with severe screen burn i took out of old railway monitors still had strong emission from all 3 guns!
Second that.
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