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Old 09-20-2012, 07:54 PM
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Took Miniman82's advice and measured the pots.
Even though they have an affect on the screen without showing a dead spot I find the Linearity pot is open near one end!
Now whats the real value? Sams shows 100k which originally I felt was curious being one end is at 400 volts and the other end at almost 1200 volts, a lot of drop for a 1/2 watt pot. The RCA diagram shows 3.5 meg sourcing from B+Boost only. I measure aprox 5 meg before the hidden break. I also believe the replacement will need to have an insulated shaft/ rotor to prevent arc potential.

Who hazards an educated guess as to the value and where to get one. The closest I have is 3.5meg full metal jacket.

By the way I have a couple handfulls of 500k with a switch if anyone needs some. Nylon shaft.
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Old 09-20-2012, 08:35 PM
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I have one from a junk 16 chassis. My sams for the 15 and 16 show 3.4meg. My control reads 2.7meg. If you want it, PM me your address and i'll send it to you.
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Old 09-21-2012, 05:50 AM
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PM sent.

I'm now wondering if this could be the issue with other early RCA's and Clones. I came across other posts about vertical height issues or slight fold over without a real solution and was referred to as a "common problem"

Thanks again!
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Old 09-21-2012, 07:22 AM
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It's not all that uncommon, especially for high hours sets. The pots tend to have a high potential (boost) applied ot them, so they attract crud and grow whiskers faster than other ones on the chassis. And as you found out, being under more stress they fail more often.
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Old 10-02-2012, 02:03 PM
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CRT glass advise needed

While waiting for a part and other shop work to finish I decided to remove the cataract safety glass. On this one there was not a really hot afternoon and when a front moved through the temp droped and sky became overcast. I heared the glass "TICK" and that was it.

I have removed most of the pieces and I'm down to the last pieces near the center. The PVA is thinner at the center and there is less 'give'. I'm using single edge razor blades as shims at this point and the going is painfully slow.
I'm hesitant to use a hair dryer to help heat it up as most of the face of the CRT is now exposed. There are a few observations I've made.
  • Separations showing as an arc break off quite soon
  • Separations as showing like fingers result as larger chunks
  • The closer to the center the more dificult to do anything with the glass.
  • This tube checks really good and had a great picture and the next time I do a cataract removal they'l have to be much worse!
I have a spare clear glass from another set to replace it with.

Any advise would be great. I'm sure that I'm not the first to have to overcome this situation.
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Old 10-02-2012, 02:30 PM
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I am not sure of the problem? did the safty glass break during the removal? is that what you refer to as "tick that was it"

if the glass broke, I would assume you simply over did it with the wedges around the edges of the glass. you need to dig out some of the pva, if its too hard to dig out for space for the wedges then you need to soak in water for a prolonged time.

After digging out the space the wedges (wood closepins) are inserted and tapped in until snug then you let the heat do the work.

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Old 10-02-2012, 02:44 PM
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as the glass begins to let go esp as the contact point begins to really get small you should release some of the pressure by pulling back on the wedges, should should make the last 2" or so not pop so violently (although I have not had it break at that point it still is scary when it lets go).
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Old 10-02-2012, 08:38 PM
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When Ive done this before the wedges get loose as the separation gets closer to the center. I suspect the fail was due to a lone tight wedge when the progres stoped and possibly temperature change came into play. My method is to dig out some pva and gently tap the clothspin wedge until I sense the First tight response after the dull taps of pva intrusion. On a nice hot day the "fingers" appear and travel to the center until the final pop, glass intact.
I have most of the broken material off but the middle section is very slow going and Ive not found a sample even slightly water soluble. or paint thinner, or accetone, or brake cleaner.

The CRT with the fingers was a previous removal on another CRT. The fragment picture is the current project.
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Old 10-03-2012, 07:24 AM
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Wow... you guys get cold fronts in South Florida??? A co-worker of mine lives in your county... he makes it sound as if it's summer all year long there.

At least you had another glass. I have a few spare glasses that I picked up years ago in case of breaking one. So far, I've had to do cataract surgery three times. I've been fortunate that the cataracts were so bad, the safety glasses came right off with little or no effort.
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Old 10-19-2012, 09:04 AM
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Better!

Back to the project. Full vertical courtesy of a replacement control via MSTATON (THANKS THANKS THANKS) , new spare glass after a miserable removal of the original.

Now time for a complete registration and purity setup and touchup the grey scale tracking. Awaiting for a remote unit that may be a better match and were good to go.
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Old 10-19-2012, 10:23 AM
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Looks really good.. Great job Dave...
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Old 10-19-2012, 11:08 AM
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+1! That set has really come a long way from page one of the thread. Excellent work!
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Old 10-19-2012, 02:43 PM
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That looks great-your persistence really paid off!
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Old 10-19-2012, 11:33 PM
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Looks awesome, glad that pot worked for you.
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Old 10-23-2012, 06:41 PM
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Great result and a nice picture too! It'll look even better when you're done with the adjustments.
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