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Old 08-10-2008, 04:31 AM
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Which brand is this color TV?

I found a photo on a scientific journal of this color TV, but I can not see that brand and model is. Can you help? thank you.

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I think it's a commercial monitor of some sort (Conrac, or?), or maybe a TV repair school home-built. No tuner (?). No color TV of that era had a swing-out chassis like that, that I've seen.

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I think it's a commercial monitor of some sort (Conrac, or?), or maybe a TV repair school home-built. No tuner (?). No color TV of that era had a swing-out chassis like that, that I've seen.

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may be a monitor for exercises in a box of walnut wood color glossy? under the screen there is a plaque but no one reads what's written. now I go to see if it really conrac
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Notice the rectangular tube set in the background.
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Notice the rectangular tube set in the background.
yes, the background you notice a monitor TV studio (not square tube, however!) but the two in the foreground are certainly consumer color TV. the image the small Indian child I saw it on other magazines. certainly belonged to an experimental transmission of colour TV. I do not know whether European or American.
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The CRT bezels are the same as an RCA CTC-11, also used in many clones. The chassis, though, is something special.
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The CRT bezels are the same as an RCA CTC-11, also used in many clones. The chassis, though, is something special.
I do not know if it is a color TV experimental. is in fact a console version. the group sintony not present in the facade could be side
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I think it is a monitor also, the tech's left hand is adjusting 1 of 3 small knobs, on the front panel. None of them look large enough to be a channel changer. This must have been a very high end monitor made to show video for very important people, presidents, diplomats etc.
p.s. looking at the front bezel, it looks like a 4 letter name or abbreviation, it looks like TMFR, TBFR or TBFM?
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[p.s. looking at the front bezel, it looks like a 4 letter name or abbreviation, it looks like TMFR, TBFR or TBFM?[/QUOTE


the photo is taken from an encyclopedia of the 70s.
i do not think that is european tv set.

you are right. there are 4 letters,

the first is not identified _
the second seems an E
the third seems an A or C
the 4th seems a M or H

- E A M perhaps TEAM ? or TECH???? or BEAM?

in attach one pics magnified

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[p.s. looking at the front bezel, it looks like a 4 letter name or abbreviation, it looks like TMFR, TBFR or TBFM?[/QUOTE


the photo is taken from an encyclopedia of the 70s.
i do not think that is european tv set.

you are right. there are 4 letters,

the first is not identified _
the second seems an E
the third seems an A or C
the 4th seems a M or H

- E A M perhaps TEAM ? or TECH???? or BEAM?

in attach one pics magnified
Two electronics companies come to mind that may fit your four letter logo , starting with "T". "TERK" made video monitors and I believe "TEAC" also made/makes video monitors.

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Old 08-12-2008, 01:43 AM
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Two electronics companies come to mind that may fit your four letter logo , starting with "T". "TERK" made video monitors and I believe "TEAC" also made/makes video monitors.

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TERK uhhmmm ... IT is American company? TEAC instead should be Japanese, I would not understand that TEAC has produced color monitors in those years. they were more in the manufacture audio equipment. now a little navigate the web and see if there is material with the initials approached me cite.
Yes the vaweform it is TEKTRONIX is recognizable by the red knobs.
the photo belongs to a printed encyclopedia (1973) in Italy and the article spoke about the birth of colour TV. There were other photo cameras with 41 TK and TK 42. I public below
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What country was the scientific journal article from? This could very well be a non-US set, making guessing all the more difficult.
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Old 08-10-2008, 07:59 PM
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I'm still fascinated by the monitor in the background. It looks like it uses the CBS H266 rectangular tube from 1957:

http://www.earlytelevision.org/color_crts.html

Westinghouse and CBS made TV sets using this tube. The Westinghouse version is shown here (toward the bottom of the page):

http://www.earlytelevision.org/21_inch_color.html
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What vintage is that scope and when did what I call "camera bars" (non-SMPTE) appear?

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What vintage is that scope and when did what I call "camera bars" (non-SMPTE) appear?
I think full field bars were one of the earliest electronically generated test patterns, so I'd say they go back to the 50's. I know before SMPTE bars there were RCA bars which were different. I only had one machine, an old Telemation from the 60's that generated that type of bars, but they were also electronically generated. I think earlier than that and you're talking slides and camera cards for the test patterns, since the monoscopes were only suitable for b&w. Although, I suppose you could theoretically use a 3 tube monoscope to generate a color pattern, but I don't think I've ever seen one.

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