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Old 07-23-2008, 04:50 PM
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Color TV in the movies

Just for interest's sake, if you have a chance, take a view of The Sunny Side of the Street, made by Columbia in 1951, starring Frankie Laine. A good portion of the show supposedly takes place in the CBS television studios, where every set, large and small, plays in color. Obviously a big plug for the CBS system. Naturally, the sets are not CBS's mechanical field sequential sets, the images were all matted in film, but they were trying to sell the idea of color TV. You can catch the show on TCM or read about it on their site, www.tcm.com
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Old 07-23-2008, 09:10 PM
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They did the same thing to TVs in the movie "Will Success Spoil Rock Hunter?"

And also the livingroom TV owned by the Boyers in the movie "The Thrill of It All" though later on the set is used with a black and white picture at the advertising agency or soap company...
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Old 07-24-2008, 02:23 AM
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The 1951 Fox, Technicolor, feature "My Blue Heaven" also has many scenes that take place in a TV studio. While wide shots of a fictional variety show in production show RCA B&W cameras, all the TV studio monitor images are in color. This extends to shots of home receivers, and even a TV store with many sets on display show all of them displaying color images. These images were special effect insert color mattes.

I viewed the film on The Fox Movie Channel. Available on DVD.

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Old 07-24-2008, 08:02 AM
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I have a vague recollection of one of the Rock Hudson/Doris Day screwball comedies having a Roundie that was "on" & playing a color show...It was "matted" in, of course, but at least they went to the trouble of having a REAL color set...I was a Very Weird Kid, & noticed things like that...
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Old 07-24-2008, 08:09 PM
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Besides the discrepancy between 60 field/second video and 24 frame/sec film, there was the problem that the Technicolor process had an ASA speed rating of about 12 (it started at 5, and was improved over the years). No way a real color TV picture could survive the lighting levels needed on the set.
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Old 07-26-2008, 06:14 PM
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I have a vague recollection of one of the Rock Hudson/Doris Day screwball comedies having a Roundie that was "on" & playing a color show...It was "matted" in, of course, but at least they went to the trouble of having a REAL color set...I was a Very Weird Kid, & noticed things like that...
That would have be either the movies "Lover Come Back" or "Send Me No Flowers".

A third movie they did together "Pillow Talk" featured no Television Sets but lots of Telephones!

I was a weird kid too...
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Old 07-29-2008, 06:37 PM
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Here's a nutty one; from "Artists and Models" (1955), Jerry Lewis's character goes on a talk show as an example of what comic books do to people. Dino catches him on a "color tv" in a window display. So who can ID this nifty "color" set?
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Old 07-29-2008, 07:48 PM
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That's a strange arrangement for the controls - and none hidden
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Old 07-29-2008, 07:57 PM
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looks just like a b&w tv to me. is that not a magnavox logo on the set. steve
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Old 07-29-2008, 08:47 PM
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Of course it's a BW set! Look at the shape of the CRT. Just another Hollywood BS shot.
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Old 07-30-2008, 12:44 AM
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How disappointing. Were real color sets really that scarce? I remember seeing this scene from that film many, many years ago, not realizing at the time it was a FRAUD.
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Old 07-30-2008, 12:50 AM
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looks just like a b&w tv to me. is that not a magnavox logo on the set. steve
Good call on the Magnavox logo. I agree the control panel layout looks a bit strange. A 24" B&W console?

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Old 07-30-2008, 03:11 AM
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Good call on the Magnavox logo. I agree the control panel layout looks a bit strange. A 24" B&W console?

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The control layout and knobs on that set also suggest Magnavox, early 1960s vintage. But a color picture on a b&w TV? This was several decades before TBS, WTBS, and Ted Turner's short-lived experiment with colorizing b&w TV shows, so a colorized program on that Magnavox is out of the question as well.

I wouldn't be surprised if the set being discussed here was in fact a 24" b&w console TV. There were 23" and 25" sets already, so Magnavox may well have stepped in and introduced a 24-inch set to fill in the gap.
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Old 07-30-2008, 06:31 AM
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Corina, Corina ctc 5

The movie Corina, Corina with Whoopy Goldberg and Ray Liotta uses a ctc 4 or 5 with black and white show playing
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Old 07-30-2008, 09:16 AM
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Wasn't there a Jerry Lewis movie where he worked in a tv repair shop?
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