good shortwave radios?

[stuartk]

The rules for the forum say it's for vintage, so I hope I can stretch the rules a bit...

I'm thinking about getting a shortwave radio. One of the portable Grundig models seems like a logical choice.

I want a decent radio, but don't want to spend a lot either. Any suggestions?

I used to listen to stations from Europe on my Dad's old shortwave receiver when I was a kid, and I'd like to putter around a bit now and then. I figure it will have probably AM and FM too, so it will double as an emergency radio.

[avionic]

Vintage or new

New...http://www.yaesu.com/indexVS.cfm?cmd...5&isArchived=0

I've always been partial to the old tube model Halicrafters.

[ponderbear]

If a couple hundred dollars isn't much, the Sony 2010 is hard to beat in the portable zone.

Or more than 200, now that it's discontinued. At 300 or so it puts it in the same price category of a Grundig Satellit, which SQ wise far outclasses the 2010.

If you want something paperback sized, I like my Grundig YB-400. I've owned a Sony SW7600G, SW7600GR, and one-time Sangean TOTL ATS-909, all about the same size and continuous coverage SW with FM and AM. The 400 ultimately was the keeper. All have their reception foibles, especially the 909 which pretty much requires an external antenna for decent reception. The 400 is not perfect but it's in the ballpark of the best (the 7600), with the added feature of great audio quality for the size. It makes a big difference when all the power is out and you're turning to your radio for information as well as a little entertainment.

For longer lasting power, choose one with a crank, although I have yet to find one those I like; or a bigger portable like the 2010, one that has room for D cells. Older analog units like the Sony SW5500 or the Panasonic RF-2200 will last a pretty long time on 4 D cells or so.

[compucat]

For a new portable, try the Kaito 1102. It is not expensive, quite small and even has a BFO. It comes with three AA rechargeable batteries that can be recharged in the set.

For vintage shortwave sets, go with Hallicrafters. I have a restored S-53A and I just love it.

[JimJ[VT]]

Originally Posted by ponderbear

If a couple hundred dollars isn't much, the Sony 2010 is hard to beat in the portable zone.

Or more than 200, now that it's discontinued. At 300 or so it puts it in the same price category of a Grundig Satellit, which SQ wise far outclasses the 2010.

If you want something paperback sized, I like my Grundig YB-400. I've owned a Sony SW7600G, SW7600GR, and one-time Sangean TOTL ATS-909, all about the same size and continuous coverage SW with FM and AM. The 400 ultimately was the keeper. All have their reception foibles, especially the 909 which pretty much requires an external antenna for decent reception. The 400 is not perfect but it's in the ballpark of the best (the 7600), with the added feature of great audio quality for the size. It makes a big difference when all the power is out and you're turning to your radio for information as well as a little entertainment.

For longer lasting power, choose one with a crank, although I have yet to find one those I like; or a bigger portable like the 2010, one that has room for D cells. Older analog units like the Sony SW5500 or the Panasonic RF-2200 will last a pretty long time on 4 D cells or so.

The YB400PE was my first SW radio...I liked it

Then I got my amateur radio license and a Yaesu FT840...and got addicted to it

[Brian]

How much is not a lot? It will mean different things to diffeent persons. I the real low range, find a Eton S350DL. About $100 new. An analog radio with a digital readout. The FM has a mpx output through the line outputs and the headphones. AM does not have an external antenna connection but has a long built-in rod and pulls well. The SW and FM have external antenna connections or can use a fairly long whip antenna. The AM and FM pull quite well and sound good. The AM has a narrow and wide band. No SSB. The SW is not great about 15mhz but below that it is sensitive, Comparable to my Hallicrafters SW-500.

If you want more sensitivity or even better audio there are filter mods available.

I have 2 of these, one in my office and the other besides the bed. In the office, it is the only radio that will pick up AM. All others I've tried get nothing but static.

OTOH, therfe is the vintage option. My Hallicrafters SW-500 tube radio only cost $25 in working condition. Only needed a litter control cleaning. It came with a set of magnetic headphones and is a lot of old time fun for as a kid I owned a S38C.

[Sandy G]

Holding my tongue...Y'all know what I wanna say...(grin)

[electronjohn]

Yes, yes...we know. Sandy...we know that instead of counting sheep to get to sleep you count R-390s.

Seriously, though...there's a TON of good to great SW radios available both new and used. I have a $5 garage sale Grundig YB320 that does pretty decent, although the frequency coverage isn't quite complete. Then, there's my Sony ICF7600DS...paperback size, BFO...a good radio. Lots of bigger desktop rigs around, too...a vintage Yaesu FRG-7 can sometimes be had for a reasonable cost and is a good performer. Like tubes? Hallicrafters offered everything from the beginner S-38 to the Holy Grail SX-88 and a ton in between. I kinda like the SX-96, myself. Then there's National, Hammarlund...it's a lonnnng list. We'll all pitch in with opinions and advice for sure.

[Mmike]

Just look for any Amateur transceiver such as Icom, Yaesu, Kenwood and TenTec from the 90's onward for around 300.00 and you will be in business and then study for your license and talk as well!

73 de -Mike

[Jeffhs]

Originally Posted by Mmike

Just look for any Amateur transceiver such as Icom, Yaesu, Kenwood and TenTec from the 90's onward for around 300.00 and you will be in business and then study for your license and talk as well!

73 de -Mike

I have an Icom IC725 (won it at a hamfest in 1991) with a very hot receiver. Used it with about three different antennas, worked 49 states and a handful of foreign countries, now using it with a Barker and Williamson AP-10A apartment portable antenna.

Getting back to the receiver section of the 725, as I said, it is very sensitive and, with the optional 500-Hz CW filter (which I installed on mine years ago because I operated CW quite a bit until I moved here--the rig's 100-watt signal trips one of the GFCIs in my apartment, but works very well on the local radio club's ten-meter net and doesn't bother the GFCIs on SSB) is quite selective as well. Icom did not cut corners with this radio. The only receiver I've used in 36 years as a ham that could match or even rival the one in my '725 was the Halli SX-101A Mark III I had in my Novice/Technician station, in the early 1970s until 1985. The SX101 had a switchable crystal filter and a notch filter; the crystal filter could narrow the selectivity all the way down to 500 Hz--excellent for CW.

I also had a Halli SX62a for a few years. Like the SX101, it was very sensitive and selective on all eight bands, including FM. I used only an old car-stereo speaker with it, but it still sounded wonderful on FM, even in the basement of my former home, using just a length of wire on the antenna terminal. I often find myself wondering how good that receiver would have sounded on FM had I connected it to a really good speaker. I think it would have sounded at least as good as a good mono phonograph of the period (1950s-'60s), as the SX62 had, IIRC, a well-built audio stage with two 6V6 tubes in push-pull parallel. Like the old Zenith radios, they don't make them like that anymore, although, as you mentioned, the recent-vintage Icom rigs don't do badly. I intend to hang on to mine as long as it works as well as it does.

73,

[Mmike]

Originally Posted by Jeffhs

I have an Icom IC725 (won it at a hamfest in 1991) with a very hot receiver. Used it with about three different antennas, worked 49 states and a handful of foreign countries, now using it with a Barker and Williamson AP-10A apartment portable antenna.

Getting back to the receiver section of the 725, as I said, it is very sensitive and, with the optional 500-Hz CW filter (which I installed on mine years ago because I operated CW quite a bit until I moved here--the rig's 100-watt signal trips one of the GFCIs in my apartment, but works very well on the local radio club's ten-meter net and doesn't bother the GFCIs on SSB) is quite selective as well.

I like the 725 but and prefer the receiver on the Ic-735 for it's sensitivity and age. I have a 746 Pro and a 756 Pro and the DSP does amazing things for a receiver now a days. I am thinking of stepping up but don't want to pay 11,000.00 for the IC-7800!

73 de Mike

[Schnitzer]

I'm thinking about getting a shortwave radio. One of the portable Grundig models seems like a logical choice.

If you are partial to Grundig radios, as I am, I would highly recommend getting a Grundig Satellit 2000 portable. It has AM, FM, and complete coverage of the short wave bands from 1.6 to 30.0 MHz. An 8 band turret (drum) tuner covers the frequencies from 5 to 30 30 MHz with a separate independent tuning scale and choice of normal or wideband tuning.

Years ago I owned both a Drake R8 and a Lowe 225 Europa receiver using a roof mounted antenna for worldwide shortwave listening. After I acquired and restored the Grundig Satellit 2000 (it had a failed out audio output transistor), I was very impressed by its performance (sensitivity, selectivity, and sound). I decided to do an A/B reception evaluation betwen the Grundig and each of the other two receivers. I was amazed that even on hard to reach stations that the Grundig was equal to both of the other two. After that, I sold both of the other receivers and kept the Grundig for all my shortwave listening.

More info on vintage Grundig shortwave portables here:

http://www.classic-worldband.com

You might also want to consider joining the Grundig Satellit Info Group:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/grundig_satellit/

[OvenMaster]

Panasonic RF-2200. Great with the built-in whip, excellent when connected to an outdoor wire, for both AM/MW and SW. FM is no slouch, either.
Superb tone quality is the icing on the cake.

Tom

[Mmike]

Originally Posted by OvenMaster

Panasonic RF-2200. Great with the built-in whip, excellent when connected to an outdoor wire, for both AM/MW and SW. FM is no slouch, either.
Superb tone quality is the icing on the cake.

Tom

That Panasonic looks just like a Grundig I used to own.

_Mike

[OvenMaster]

Originally Posted by Mmike

That Panasonic looks just like a Grundig I used to own.

_Mike

Yup. The Panasonic came out around 1978 or so, the Grundig much later... mid-80's or early 90's, IIRC.