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Old 07-30-2016, 11:21 AM
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I was perusing the Getty Images site today and came across this pic of a color set dated Jan. 01, 1954. Was wondering if this is an actual color set, or a B&W set with a color image added after the fact?



http://www.gettyimages.com/license/2664328
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Old 07-30-2016, 11:31 AM
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I was perusing the Getty Images site today and came across this pic of a color set dated Jan. 01, 1954. Was wondering if this is an actual color set, or a B&W set with a color image added after the fact?



http://www.gettyimages.com/license/2664328
Totally fake color insert. May even be a European receiver used in the photo.

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Old 07-30-2016, 11:49 AM
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I did notice on the caption the alternate "colour" spelling. So may very well be a European set.
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Old 07-30-2016, 12:31 PM
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FAKE
Even B&W sets didnt have tubes that were that rectangle.
Its also way to brite.

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Old 07-30-2016, 03:32 PM
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I was perusing the Getty Images site today and came across this pic of a color set dated Jan. 01, 1954. Was wondering if this is an actual color set, or a B&W set with a color image added after the fact?



http://www.gettyimages.com/license/2664328

This image is reported to be an experimental British television (Pye?) using the American Lawrence Chromatron (Chromatic Labratory) CRT.

In the 1953 Queen Elizabeth coronation, several Chromatron televisions were set up in a children's hospital in London and the kids got to see closed circuit color television during the coronation. There were several Pye color television cameras set up along the parade route. The BBC did not broadcast the coronation in color.

http://www.visions4.net/journal/chromatron/
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Old 07-30-2016, 03:33 PM
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Not a fake:

http://www.earlytelevision.org/briti...erimental.html

It used a Chromatron CRT, which is masked like that:

http://www.earlytelevision.org/chromatron.html
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Old 07-30-2016, 03:46 PM
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Yep that's a definite match with the pic I posted. Such a large size screen compared to the 15GP22 at the time.
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Old 07-30-2016, 03:54 PM
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Yeah in 1954 the *only* color option available would have been a CT-100 and that ain't no CT-100

Also January 1954, so not even that yet.
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Old 07-30-2016, 03:59 PM
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The set may have been real but I still wonder if the picture has been doctored?
The image just seems too bright compared to the surroundings, maybe they did a composite like we do now because photographing a working CRT set is hard to do.
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Old 07-30-2016, 04:19 PM
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The image could be a cut and paste job, but it also could be real. The Chromatron CRT was extraordinary bright, being 85% efficient compared to three tube shadow mask CRT which was 15% efficient.

That would explain the overexposure in the image plus the fact that just about any television image will look overexposed when the television is captured in bright light like this image is.

Is that the Queen herself on the set?
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Why does the table lamp cast no light whatsoever on the cabinet of the set, only the wall behind it?
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Old 07-30-2016, 08:18 PM
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Real or otherwise, I would love to see a working Chromatron and compare to your typical CRT.
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Getty recently demanded a $120- payment from a photographer for posting her own photo on her own website. It turned out they have made literally billions of dollars claiming copyrights on and selling "rights" to public domain images. And so they are being sued by said photographer for one billion dollars.

So it's probably fake

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Why does the table lamp cast no light whatsoever on the cabinet of the set, only the wall behind it?
The television is illuminated from above. Look at the trim piece below the screen and the the lower speaker cut out, both lit from above. The child legs in red appear to be illuminated from above as well.
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Old 07-30-2016, 09:49 PM
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Getty recently demanded a $120- payment from a photographer for posting her own photo on her own website. It turned out they have made literally billions of dollars claiming copyrights on and selling "rights" to public domain images. And so they are being sued by said photographer for one billion dollars.

So it's probably fake

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The source of the photo is attributed to Radio Times Hulton Picture Library per the ETF site. It is also well documented by many sources that at least two Chromatrons were at the children's hospital displaying closed circuit color images of the coronation in 1953.

If you Google "Pye", you will find photos of the color camera used for the closed circuit color telecast to the two Chromatrons at the hospital.

Why would this image be a fake? What would be the motivation to fake the photo?
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