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I didn't know the Omni/Horizon came with a 1.7L as standard equipment. Now it's easier to understand why they were named 1982's lemon of the year. A quick check on Wikipedia reveals that the 1.7 and the 4-speed were VW-made. Ouch, hopefully that 1985 Omni was never parked on steep hills. I wouldn't want to risk leaving a slushbox in gear while parked. I never knew torque-steer was a problem with FWD Mopars; I guess I was just extra careful in slippery conditions. As I recall it was even more of a problem with GM's FWD X-body cars. Oh yeah, RWD Mopar with a cop motor with a 400 cubic inch plant, cop tires, cop suspension, cop shocks and made before catalytic converters, the logical choice in my opinion. Little wonder the Blues Brothers were able to beat the heat to Chicago. |
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Chrysler has a long proud history of technological achievements, but putting a computer on top of a hot engine was not one of their brightest moments. Though to be perfectly fair, many carmakers today continue that practice. Mostly GM. Huehuehuehue. |
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The Dodge Omni and their variants were powered by VW parts. And back then
Consumer Reports, if I'm not mistaken released one of their tests to the TV news media that showed that if you were moving at highway speeds and took the steering wheel and twisted to to one side and released it, the car would on it's own swing wildly from right to left until it spun out. Tests on other cars showed that they would have the steering wheel dampen out the flick and return to a center position, provided you were still on the pavement. An unrealistic hazard in my opinion. I wonder why the VW's that shared the drive train did not suffer from that symptom? Maybe because of Chrysler's fun single finger power power steering, where a good flick of the wheel with one finger often spun it from center to one of the far locks quite easily. The early Lean Burns were spark only, the last runs had feedback carburetors too. But by the time FBC's came into the mix they had to get away from the name Lean Burn. Speaking of no shift locks, my '86 Prelude has no shift lock, no signs it was defeated by the previous owner either.... .
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Dodge may have used VW engines, but I doubt they would have gone VW on the suspension and steering in a K car.
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No, that was the Omni only. The Omni was pre-k car. I don't think the VW engine was ever offered in a K car. To the best of my knowledge, the K cars were entirely in-house, at least originally. Ah, the good old days. Last edited by MadMan; 03-16-2018 at 09:45 PM. |
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There's a lot of information about the evolution of the various Mopar platforms on the website "Allpar". I generally follow it pretty close.
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The LH cars were the last of the 'in house' designs, even though the company was being controlled my Mercedes at the time. My understanding is that, in spite of what people claim, the current LX cars are really the old LH platform modified to accept the improved Mercedes suspension components and are not merely a warmed over Benz chasis. Of course, the dreaded NAG1 tranny is a Benz unit, and we all know how craptastic those things can be.
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Mercedes transmissions are actually usually pretty hearty things. But uh... in terms of performance... yeah. Craptastic sounds about right. In the late 80s - 90s, perhaps earlier, idk what possessed them to think that taking off in 2nd gear was a good idea. |
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The LH was really an AMC design as much as anything. Their engineering staff came over after Chrysler bought AM & put them in charge. The (Renault) Eagle Premier was the starting point for the LH & they were built in the former AMC Bramalea factory. Fitting that they were use the Concorde name, as a sort of tribute to the old AMC Concord.
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K cars had a very long and also very successful production run, and as pointed out previously they basically saved Chrysler from the dustbin of history. A little more fun to drive than what? A potato? You've apparently never been in a 2.2 or 2.5 turbo with mild tuning done to it, I promise it shits all over that piss poor excuse for a japanese V6 and its impossible to change timing belt. Transmissions? Yeah the 3-sp torqueflite is sorta gay, but once again with a 2.5 turbo attached it most likely shits all over whatever you're currently in. If you can't tell, I'm tired of people talking shit about my car. And no, I'm not a K-car fanatic. I'm a turbo fanatic. I also have a factory turbo Corvair, wanna fight about it? I'll put my '89 Spirit up against whatever you got, and while it may or may not not win you'll definitely be surprised...
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Speaking as a Mopar or no car sort of guy, cool your jets. Nobody is questioning your masculinity. I agree that the K-cars were the best 'small' cars on the road, with room for six Americans, but there is no need to be so darned hurt. Even the rice burners that were supposed to be the death knell of the U.S. autos are long since shredded and turned into toasters, while Reliants still cruise city streets. By the way, the Diplomat was still the better car. A 318 kicks the hell out of a four banger any day of the week, no matter how torquey it may be.
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And changing the T-belt is only slightly more difficult than any other car - owing the the adapter plate, a whopping 5 extra bolts - but nothing any competent mechanic can't conquer with ease. Come to think of it, its been many years since I last did the job, I should do it again soon. Also, chill down, nobody's talking shit about your car. |
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Even so, it wouldn't hurt to be prepared to just brush off snarky comments. Pretty much anyone into anything other than traditional muscle cars is going to hear others roasting their idea of a fly ride. Been there, done that, got the tee shirt.
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I certainly agree that Mopars are awesome. |
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