Estate sale find

[bgadow]

Someday we should put together an accurate list of the clones, who built what, which were RCA-assembled and which were just built under license, etc.

A tube-color Philco has been on my want list for a while now. Someday...

[Dave A]

And don't forget the GE Portacolor clones. "I don't get any respect".

[oldtvman]

Thanks guys,

For some reason or another We saw Rca, Zenith, Motorola and Ge color set in the 60's. I don't remember seeing a Philco color until the mid 70's when it was Philco/Ford.

Now I have to decide whether to install the Rca hi-lite tube or the Sylvania color bright 85 tube.

[Steve D.]

Originally Posted by oldtvman

Thanks guys,

For some reason or another We saw Rca, Zenith, Motorola and Ge color set in the 60's. I don't remember seeing a Philco color until the mid 70's when it was Philco/Ford.

Now I have to decide whether to install the Rca hi-lite tube or the Sylvania color bright 85 tube.

[QUOTE=oldtvman;3100950]Thanks guys,

Did a little more digging. Ford purchased Philco in late 1961. They re-named it Philco-Ford in 1966. Ford sold Philco to GTE in 1974. GTE also owned the Sylvania brand at the time. So maybe the Sylvania tube? Just for yucks.

[DaveWM]

[QUOTE=Steve D.;3100955]

Originally Posted by oldtvman

Thanks guys,

Did a little more digging. Ford purchased Philco in late 1961. They re-named it Philco-Ford in 1966. Ford sold Philco to GTE in 1974. GTE also owned the Sylvania brand at the time. So maybe the Sylvania tube? Just for yucks.

Could be a sylvania tube, the two philco ford roundies I have I think have a RE21FBP22 and its a VERY nice tube esp the reds.

the ones I have are def not clones though, they have hybrid chassis, tuner/IF are SS the rest is tube. The HV regulation is a feedback type, not a shunt.

[BigDavesTV]

I have a 1963 Philco roundie, that contains an RCA, CTC-12a chassis, and Philco glued their tag over the CTC-12a stamp, barely centered, as you can see the slightly faded RCA stamp. My Philco has the original RCA 21FBP22, with a plastic safety glass in front of the CRT, that is curved to the shape of the CRT, like the fit of a bonded safety glass. This Philco also contains many RCA brand tubes in the chassis, that seem to be the original '63 tubes. The cabinet and bezel and knobs, etc. are not RCA looking design, so either Philco made or had those items made for them to use with the RCA chassis.

[oldtvman]

Originally Posted by BigDavesTV

I have a 1963 Philco roundie, that contains an RCA, CTC-12a chassis, and Philco glued their tag over the CTC-12a stamp, barely centered, as you can see the slightly faded RCA stamp. My Philco has the original RCA 21FBP22, with a plastic safety glass in front of the CRT, that is curved to the shape of the CRT, like the fit of a bonded safety glass. This Philco also contains many RCA brand tubes in the chassis, that seem to be the original '63 tubes. The cabinet and bezel and knobs, etc. are not RCA looking design, so either Philco made or had those items made for them to use with the RCA chassis.

Thanks Dave, Upon removing the chassis, I found the chassis to be RCA, the tuner assemblies are Philco which explains why each tuner has removable wiring harnesses. Have installed new Crt, now working on power supply and checking caps. In looking at chassis from the bottom the PC boards have Rca stamped right on them

[tvcollector]

That's defiantly a set that's on my want list..

[oldtvman]

These Rca's in sheeps clothing remind me of that song by Judy Collins "Send in the clones"

[marty59]

That original CRT didn't look too bad at all, good to keep around as a spare at least..

[Electronic M]

Originally Posted by marty59

That original CRT didn't look too bad at all, good to keep around as a spare at least..

Or one could fix the cataract by removing the CRT and soaking the face (or letting it sit in the sun and heat up) until the cloudy glue softens and lets go, clean the glue off and reinstall.

[BigDavesTV]

Haha, I like that Judy Collins song, "Send In The Clones!" I well remember when the song "Send In The Clowns" was popular :-)

[Dave A]

I worked a CBS football game in the 70's that had a music video played at halftime with "Send in the clowns" edited by NFL Films to footage of Joe Namuth in not his good days. Clips of him throwing interceptions and tackles behind the lines. Hard to watch remembering his good days.

That same game had a fan walking past the truck at the end and flipping a power switch on one phase of the truck sending us towards near darkness and sync-killing all of the stations down the line genlocked to the truck through CBS.

[DavGoodlin]

Philco actually was acquired by Ford in 1961, but did not add the Ford logo until 1968 or so.
The Philco chassis that used the CTC15 clone was either a 15M91 or 16M91

This set is a working example of how sitting in a conditioned environment actually preserves the caps, pots, etc.

[consoleguy67]

I have the Sylvania tube in my Magnavox, also.