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Old 01-05-2007, 11:55 PM
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When my mother new of this, she said: "Why don't you just throw it away, after all DVD players are just so cheap, you can buy a new one."
that would have sent me on a tirade
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Another idea.....instead of expensive anti-psychotic drugs, let's provide schizophrenics with dummy bluetooth headsets. They'll easily blend into the crowd, although I suspect their "conversations" would be far more rational than those of the typical Wal-Mart shopper.

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Old 01-06-2007, 12:15 AM
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Oh, my mom would smack the back of my head if I said I was throwing some piece of equipment out.
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Old 01-12-2007, 09:38 PM
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More and more, we live in this kind of world, where everything looks like to have gone out of factory just to be discarded at the first opportunity. A few weeks ago, my DVD player, which is a very good player, a Panasonic that I bought in 2004, when these devices were still kind of expensive, appeared with a little problem. The plug was becoming extremely hot with just a couple of hours of use. I took the DVD player to be examined by an authorized Panasonic tech. When my mother new of this, she said: "Why don't you just throw it away, after all DVD players are just so cheap, you can buy a new one." I was shocked to hear this. I went to the repair shop anyway. As it turns out, it was just a bad plug, the replacement plug and cord cost me only US$ 4,00.
Excellent! Myself, I scored a General Electric CD player, Model 3-7000A, made in May of 1984 (so it is a very early model CD player), designed for console stereos, last Sunday when I went over to my friend's condo complex. It was starting to drizzle a little bit as I picked it up and into the truck it went. I brought it home and plugged it in. I turned the power on, it got power no problem but the carriage to eject the disc and insert them didn't work. So I cracked open the top and assisted the carriage by hand. I noticed that the belt to the mechanism is overstretched and if I replaced that, most likely, it will be good as new. I did put a CD into it, and it started to spin and play as I watched it to my delight.

Shame it was going to get tossed out over a trival thing like a belt. Myself, if I really had to, I would use a gum band (what we call "rubber bands" here in Pittsburgh) until I got the right belt to run it.

Well, for some reason, I'm a magnet for old stuff, I have two 1970's vintage stereos so now I have a CD player along with a turntable for them.
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Old 02-10-2007, 01:10 AM
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I saw COLOR tv at an early age

I was about 10 years old, and the year was 1957. (I will save you the math calculations, I am 59) My dad was doing business with a cabinet maker near the Milwaukee airport. The cabinet maker's shop was in an old barn, and his home was also on the property. While my dad and the cabinet maker sat at the kitchen table I went into the cabinet makers living room where the tv was on. I was astounded to see TV in color. It was the local evening news on WTMJ NBC chanel 4. The set was probably a ctc7. It had the knobs on the side and the chanel indicator window on the front of the set. WTMJ was the 7th station in the country to receive their shipment of color broadcasting equipment from RCA. I believe the year was 1954.

I also remember watching Bonanza and Walt Disneys Wonderful World of Color in the early 1960's. On Sunday night, my brother and I would go to a neighbor's home 3 doors down, and watch on their Admiral 21 inch roundie. In my estimation, the 2 aforementioned shows on NBC did more to stimulate the purchase of color sets than anything else the television industry did.

In 1965 my parents bought a 21 inch Zenith roundie. We sat it next to our 21inch B&W Philco set and only watched the Zenith color set when a color show was on, so as not to weaken the tubes in the Zenith unnecessarily. That Zenith is still sitting in my late father's bedroom in my mom's home. It has a problem in the horizontal output circuit (the plates of the horizontal output tube glow red hot) I think there is a shorted capacitor.) I have not tested the crt but I think it is probably very good as we did not watch it much in the early years. When the set developed the problem with the horizontal output circuit, my parents bought a retangular Zenith set and retired the roundie. That was in the early 70's. As a result the roundie dosen't have a lot of hours on it. The crt has the cataract issue. I am going to dig into it sooner or later and get it up and running.

In 1967 I obtained a used CTC4 from a friend. It had a good 21axp22. I recaped the set with all new Sprague Orange Drops and did a lot of tweaking to the set. It had a beautiful picture. I watched it as my personal color tv until I got married in 1971. At that time I sold it to a friend and bought a "more modern retangular" color set that my wife wanted with a remote control so we could change chanels without getting out of bed. There isn't a day that goes by that I don't wish I still had the ctc4. (the first wife is history, and in retrospect I shoould have traded the wife and kept the ctc4) I have been looking for ctc4 for a long time but so far have not found one for sale.

I recently spoke to the fellow that bought the ctc4 from me. He said he watched it for about 3 years and then sold it to a local Milwaukee tv collector. So hopefully it may still be in the Milwaukee area.

If anyone knows of a Milwaukee area collector with a ctc4, have them get in touch with me. I would be curious to know if he has my old set.

Well that's my story, hope you enjoyed.
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Old 02-10-2007, 09:18 AM
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In 1965 my parents bought a 21 inch Zenith roundie. We sat it next to our 21inch B&W Philco set and only watched the Zenith color set when a color show was on, so as not to weaken the tubes in the Zenith unnecessarily.
Your dad and I were on the same page back then. In '63 my first CT-100 sat next to a late '40s Farnsworth daily watcher, which got used unless there was a color show.
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BTW: color television was introduced in 1969 in East Germany. I have seen there the "Raduga" (= rainbow) color tv receiver, a sovjet brand with a shunt reguator. High voltage regulation was incorrectly, and reached more than 45,000 volts in case of failures. So many of these sets burned. Therefore they were usually called the "fire bombs".
Here are some more informations about the Raduga color tv set:

The first Raduga was reported in 1954:

http://www.rw6ase.narod.ru/r/raduga/raduga_op.html

Chassis:

http://oldradio.qrz.ru/radios/149-app-2.gif
http://oldradio.qrz.ru/radios/149-disk.gif

Schematics:

http://oldradio.qrz.ru/radios/149-shem-gray.gif
http://oldradio.qrz.ru/radios/149-shem-bw.gif

The Sovjets experimented with serial encoded color signals and color wheel in these days.

The next one is from 1962, and it looks like an RCA CTC5:

http://www.rw6ase.narod.ru/r/raduga/raduga_tw62.html

Some hybrid sets were made in the 1960s and 1970s, perhaps I will get one of these sets in the next weeks. I already have a SECAM converter for it.

Here is one of 1973 with chassis photos:

http://www.rw6ase.narod.ru/r/raduga/raduga703_704.html

And this one is made in 1986:

http://www.rw6ase.narod.ru/r/raduga/raduga61tc342d.html

The one which I knew from my visits in East Germany was the Радуга 5. But I did not find a photo of it yet. The Радуга 5 was so faulty that tv servicemen were adviced not to repair them.

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Old 09-29-2007, 02:10 PM
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Did the russians had color TV in 1954? They got color in the same year as the USA?

No doubt the communist regime failed ... producing consumer goods like those. That color TV from 1954 is so ugly-looking ( while the RCA CT-100 is very beautiful ), presenting such a small picture ... not to mention that it was a dangerous set!

And that color TV from 1986 (!) ... gee, it looks like a clone of the cheap black-and-white sets that were sold by millions here in Brazil during the 1970's!

In 1986 no B/W set here in Brazil looked like that TV, let alone color sets!
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Old 09-29-2007, 04:42 PM
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our first color set was a philco ford from 1965-66. delivered on a saturday evening and we enjoyed that roundie all night! didn t work on sunday though.horizontal output tube.generally a good set-once a year it broke down.picture was extremely good! crt weakened and a new sylvania d-16 was purchased. this set had the best picture ever and to this day still operates without a service issue. okay,i did do some adjustments and cleaned the tuner a couple times. picture is still very good. i think this is the best ever made or any old zenith. early xl 100s are also very good reliable sets. i currently have a 27 toshiba that is 13 years old and has played non stop in that time. it is in my sons room and he doesn t shut it off. i still like the early color picture. the reds seem more saturated and pleasing to the eye. like technocolor. as television gets bigger and better, i think some of the excitement is gone. 106 " dlp projector in hd is nice,but i think i might would rather watch a good roundie.
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Old 09-29-2007, 10:58 PM
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Another idea.....instead of expensive anti-psychotic drugs, let's provide schizophrenics with dummy bluetooth headsets. They'll easily blend into the crowd, although I suspect their "conversations" would be far more rational than those of the typical Wal-Mart shopper.

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Old 09-30-2007, 12:04 AM
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First color set in my home was also a Philco Ford ( a 1978 model ), when I was just 1 year old. Our first TV was also a Philco Ford, a big, 23 inch 1974 B/W model, that my father bought one year before he got married. Since he got color when I was only 1 year old, the big B/W set became my first bedroom TV ( I am a TV addicted ever since. Blame my parents ... only difference is that in those days there were good programs to watch ).

We still kept both Philcos until sometime around 1986. I now wish I still have them.
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Old 09-30-2007, 01:55 AM
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I remember watching Wonderful World Of Disney on my Grandparents Color Zenith Console TV in 65 or 66,when I was only 3 or 4,and thinking it was the most beautiful thing Id ever seen.My parents got a Zenith color console in 68,I think.My folks had to have a local guy who did tv repair on the side come and fix it at least once every few years,at $75 or more a pop.Ive had an RCA 27" since 89,and not one problem.
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Old 09-30-2007, 04:38 AM
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Did the russians had color TV in 1954? They got color in the same year as the USA?
As far as I know, public color television was introduced in the USSR in 1968 with SECAM standard. In 1954 the Sovjets used experimental color television with color wheel, similar to the CBS color wheel system.

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No doubt the communist regime failed ... producing consumer goods like those. That color TV from 1954 is so ugly-looking ( while the RCA CT-100 is very beautiful ), presenting such a small picture ... not to mention that it was a dangerous set!
This small color tv set from 1954 was a modified black and white tv set with a color wheel in the housing and a magnifying glass in front. Some of these sets still survived, and the full manual and documentation is available here:

http://www.rw6ase.narod.ru/r/raduga/raduga_r54_11.djvu

For those which are able to read Cyrillic, here are some more informations and photos (see forum). Note that the words radio, television, televisor, apparat, and so on are the same in Russian:

http://www.radiomuseum.ru/index2.htm
http://www.tvmuseum.ru/
http://radio1.borda.ru/

Photo of an early Sovjet sets:

http://foto.mail.ru/mail/rostov-servise/569/570.html

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Kinda neat to see that there are "Nuts" like us who love old TVs & radios even in the ex-Soviet world...
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Old 09-30-2007, 07:16 AM
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Kinda neat to see that there are "Nuts" like us who love old TVs & radios even in the ex-Soviet world...
Here are some more links to East Europe collectors:

http://langaitis.zenonas-old.radios.fotopic.net/
http://www.rkk-museum.ru/
http://www.telehor.c3.hu/
http://www.retrotexnica.ru/
http://museum.radioscanner.ru/
http://www.motorola.com/content.jsp?...ctId=1474-2695
http://forum.qrz.ru/forum120.html
http://oldradio.onego.ru/index_r.htm
http://www.radiostation.ru/home/museum.html
http://www.radiofokus.ru/

and there are many unnumbered sites as well.

For finding Russian web pages about radio and television you can search via Google for the words телевизор, Радио, Музей, Радуга for example.

Some more photos:

http://forum.qrz.ru/attachment.php?a...1&d=1188851139
http://foto.radikal.ru/f.aspx?i=0afe...d2f4b6439ba17c
http://ra.foto.radikal.ru/0708/7d/9692141aa607.jpg
http://foto.radikal.ru/f.aspx?i=39b4...47a05d36df4b8f
http://www.wlamp.narod.ru/rem_05.html
http://www.agors.ru/E1/Promyshlennye_Televizory.djvu
http://www.agors.ru/T2/babulchen1.jpg
http://www.agors.ru/UAE/innen_t_2.jpg
http://www.agors.ru/E1/znan.jpg

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