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Old 05-26-2014, 10:21 AM
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I vote for keeping Canadian TVs in the other forums

Does Canada count as international? If so most of my posts should
Move here... However they're so similar to US models I think it wouldn't be productive to move them. I vote to keep the Canadian TVs with the American ones in the original forums.
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Old 05-26-2014, 10:58 AM
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Absolutely right. I changed the forum description to "outside North America"

But in either event, you're welcome to post Canadian TVs wherever you wish. We're pretty loose with the structuring. The whole reason I created the forum was because I ran into an influx of Australian TV collectors on Facebook
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Old 05-26-2014, 02:35 PM
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There are a few ways of looking at international tv's. By nationality where they are used,
by company name, and by broadcast system. There are a few countries that used NTSC
just like here, and I find exploring the sets that use our system, but not sold in our
market to be very interesting.... I find it interesting for example, that Robb finds many
boom boxes at yard sales with short wave bands, and these are Panasonics, and Sanyo's
just like we may have had here, but made specifically for the Canada Market, or other
non US markets as well...
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Old 05-26-2014, 02:51 PM
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Canada didn't have many of its own brands, i.e. Electrohome sets were re-badged Mitsubishis for a while. No idea what the Viking sets were based on, it was an Eaton's house brand.
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Old 05-26-2014, 03:21 PM
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Canada didn't have many of its own brands, i.e. Electrohome sets were re-badged Mitsubishis for a while. No idea what the Viking sets were based on, it was an Eaton's house brand.
Sets Made in Canada and not sold in USA? Sure there were a few

Electrohome
Rogers
Rogers/Majestic and later made in Canada Philips sets.
Eaton Viking (house brand at Eatons)
Marconi
Baycrest (house brand at the Bay)
RCA Victor (early ones made in Montreal, not the same as the US models)
Transonic (house brand at Woodwards)
Clairtone
Fleetwood (made in Montreal, I have a Fleetwood made Silvertone branded CTC-16 knock off)

Electrohome were not Mitsubishi until well into the 80s, they had lots of unique to Canada products.

I am sure I am missing lots here, not to mention the big names like Admiral, GE, Westinghouse etc who had Canadian subsidiaries which made TVs and radios paralleling the US models with subtle differences. Quite often when I see an old TV "in the wild" it is not a model which also sold in the USA, especially if it's from before 1970.

Despite that Canada had unique products I just think that the Made in Canada sets are not any different from mainstream US products than, say, Packard Bell in California is different from RCA in New Jersey. They're built to more or less the same standard as American TVs, (aside from 25Hz transformers in really early 50s stuff built for Ontario).and I would rather have access to the NTSC TV repair experts in the main forums, than post in a separate forum where PAL and other systems dominate.

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Old 05-26-2014, 09:37 PM
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Canada didn't have many of its own brands, i.e. Electrohome sets were re-badged Mitsubishis for a while. No idea what the Viking sets were based on, it was an Eaton's house brand.
I've seen pictures of Fairbanks-Morse TV's sold in Canada. They looked the same as the U.S. built, Admirals. Bakelite 21" table model sets and others.
The only consumer, Fairbanks-Morse products, sold in the U.S. were radios and refrigerators, before 1940. Other F-M products, known here were Diesel engines, pumps, locomotives and large electric motors and generators.
I've seen a few Eaton's mid 60's portable 19" sets. The chassis looked like Canadian Admirals.
They were badged "Royalmont". The labeling on the bottom, stated "Eatons" of Canada.
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Old 05-26-2014, 10:00 PM
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I've seen pictures of Fairbanks-Morse TV's sold in Canada. They looked the same as the U.S. built, Admirals. Bakelite 21" table model sets and others.
The only consumer, Fairbanks-Morse products, sold in the U.S. were radios and refrigerators, before 1940. Other F-M products, known here were Diesel engines, pumps, locomotives and large electric motors and generators.
I've seen a few Eaton's mid 60's portable 19" sets. The chassis looked like Canadian Admirals.
They were badged "Royalmont". The labeling on the bottom, stated "Eatons" of Canada.
I've got to keep a lookout for those sets. As for Electrohome, I had forgotten that the company had been around a long time before Mitsubishi started making their TVs in 1984.

Speaking of Eaton's labels, here's the label behind my dryer door:

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Old 05-27-2014, 09:02 AM
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I've got to keep a lookout for those sets. As for Electrohome, I had forgotten that the company had been around a long time before Mitsubishi started making their TVs in 1984.

Speaking of Eaton's labels, here's the label behind my dryer door:
Is the machine made in USA or Canada?
I see it's rated for 208 volts, Y network power, used in large apartment complexes. At 208 volts, the heating element produces less heat and the drying process, takes a little longer.
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Old 05-28-2014, 06:59 AM
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Keeping US- Canadian together is best.
Many sets go back & fourth across the boarder. The ones that dont
are near identical. In Mass. Vikings ( Admirals) were often seen
& quite a few real Electrohomes. Even fixed an Electrohome built
console stereo once. If you see an Advent Video Beam set it
either has a Sylvania or Electrohome chassis. The Electrohome
built sets are as good as any middle tier US set & near an RCA
or Zenith. IMHO all you Canadian cats should have one in your
collections.

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Old 05-29-2014, 08:48 AM
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Absolutely right. I changed the forum description to "outside North America"
Thank you for the base Kamakiri
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I don't want to argue with a free forum, but I think there are too many "specialty" boards as it is.

I like seeing stuff from the rest of the world, but if I hadn't noticed this sub-board today I would have missed it (I almost never log on from an actual computer, just use bookmarks on my phone).

Australians were already held back from color development because of kangaroos sensitivity to high-voltage "whine"; we shouldn't isolate them in some foreign-tv backwater

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Old 05-29-2014, 09:51 PM
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Things do get a tad confusing when sets from outside North America do come up, and having another sub-board isn't going to use up any more server space, so it can't hurt really. At least those who are interested in sets from other parts of the world will know where to look for any info we might have.
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Is the machine made in USA or Canada?
I see it's rated for 208 volts, Y network power, used in large apartment complexes. At 208 volts, the heating element produces less heat and the drying process, takes a little longer.
I don't know. It's not a coin-op machine, so it isn't for apartment complexes.
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Old 05-29-2014, 11:03 PM
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What's ironic is I just picked up a Canadian Marconi table top tv from 1953 which is loaded full of made in England parts... It came up just as I got the predicta for really cheap, it's amazing how primitive it is compared to the predicta
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Old 05-29-2014, 11:16 PM
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My Magnavox Star System/Touch Tune remotes were made in Germany, go figure.
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Things do get a tad confusing when sets from outside North America do come up, and having another sub-board isn't going to use up any more server space, so it can't hurt really. At least those who are interested in sets from other parts of the world will know where to look for any info we might have.

I don't know. It's not a coin-op machine, so it isn't for apartment complexes.
Some nicer apt. complexes have laundry closets (ie a closet with a non-coin-op washer and dryer, and sometimes the waterheater inside) in each apartment...I should know I've lived in one or two in the past.
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