Lets Make a Deal - 1969 and 1963

[DavGoodlin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5g8LeqmM0Y

18:30 shows a 1969 GE color best tube color GE ever!!!

First clue NOT 1963 was the ad for The Mod Squad on ABC, then I saw the 69 GE. Anyone else I know would have picked up on other things like how everyone looked then.

Why was it in BW this late, filmed BW & broadcast in color? It was color on an NBC episode actually from 1963.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvNXm_5kLmo

Please tell us what you think?

[old_tv_nut]

The first video (1969) is a kinescope recording.

[Hawkwind]

A black & white print would be for the sponsor...

[zeno]

Maybe cheap copy for another country like Canada ?
They had translators to cover small, remote towns.
Even logged one in Mass from NS during S-E skip back in the 80's.
Was a US game show, IIRC "match game " or "lets make a deal"
But if it was B&W I would remember that......

73 Zeno
LFOD !

[kramden66]

Black and white of color were used for back up in case a station lost the network feed , the cost of making something color that wouldn't be seen is why it's black and white , these also were sent to armed forces radio and tv and other areas that had no color broadcasting , even shows that were color and on film like batman , Jeannie , bewitched , bonanza etc had black and white prints made as a back up , these prints would never be seen or in rare cases aired on a Sunday or Saturday afternoon because the affiliate was showing something else like sports or political or whatever would have replaced what was shown on the network

[ARC Tech-109]

Years ago I saw a rerun of Let's Make A Deal on Gameshow and didn't think nothing of it... until I saw the new 1973 Buick up for grabs. Clearly the video was from quad and good enough to pass as modern (pre astc). They also had a Panasonic swivel base hybrid set on the block.

[nasadowsk]

Best tube color GE is like saying your best traffic ticket ever. You still wouldn’t want it.

That…thing though, she should gave kept the third can.

BTW, the so-called “Monty Hall problem” is a big mathematical debate, still…

[ARC Tech-109]

Personally I never cared for the Portacolor or their later VIR sets.

[nasadowsk]

Would a black and white backup be quad, tho? Which brings up the question - if the videotape (television tape!) machine could do color, why not record in color? I’d imagine a color affiliate would have all color machines? Or were there still some backwaters that could only do color from the network feed in the late 60s?

[old_tv_nut]

Originally Posted by nasadowsk

Would a black and white backup be quad, tho? Which brings up the question - if the videotape (television tape!) machine could do color, why not record in color? I’d imagine a color affiliate would have all color machines? Or were there still some backwaters that could only do color from the network feed in the late 60s?

A backup TAPE would be color, but this was a kinescope (film) recording on monochrome film. Color kinescope was much rarer, both in availability of equipment and usage of that equipment.

Color kinescope via lenticular film was a process used in volume by NBC to do time delay for the west coast, for a period of only a year and a half in the 1950s, before switching to color tape. It required special projector optics in the color film chain to recover the color, as well as the special recorder; therefore the film was not suitable for distribution to local stations.

There was some color kinescope recording done on color film, but that was relatively rare and I believe used more for special projects rather than for regular wide distribution. It required a special recorder, but the film was usable on any ordinary color film chain. I believe it may have also been used in a few cases to transfer video to film for a theatrical film production.

[ARC Tech-109]

I would think the color film out from a kine would be horrid at best given the coarse triad grouping of the earlier CRT's. Guess I don't recall how bad things were back then...

[old_tv_nut]

Originally Posted by ARC Tech-109

I would think the color film out from a kine would be horrid at best given the coarse triad grouping of the earlier CRT's. Guess I don't recall how bad things were back then...

The source could be a triniscope (three primary color CRTs with color-combining dichroic mirrors) so no phosphor dots would be involved.

[ARC Tech-109]

Makes sense. The only film chains I ever got involved with were old RCA's from the 60's that came from the local ABC affiliate feeding then modern JVC KY-1900's around 1985 doing film to tape at the schools. Everything was captured to 3/4 (top load Sony 2600) for dup to VHS.