Spending time with Fred and Barney

[Philco123]

That Zenith at the top of this thread looks great !

[AlanInSitges]

Originally Posted by jhalphen

No roundies there, Europe started color service 13 years! after America.

There are some roundies in Europe, however, as Philips made some sets for (I believe) the Canadian market in the early 60's. There were a handful of models using the K4 chassis and RCA 21FBP22s, and most of them had quite beautiful cabinets! Some Dutch and UK collectors have some restored and working.

[jhalphen]

Hi to all,

Hi Alan, you are right of course, for instance Marcel's TV Museum shows a prototype Philips set with a 21" RCA round CRT :

http://www.marcelstvmuseum.com/photoalbum30.html

All color CRTs in Europe were imported from the US (roundies only) until 1963 when a new factory built by a Philips subsidiary (La RadioTechnique-Compelec) started producing the rectangular A6311X in Dreux, France. They had 4 years to gear up production for the French/German/English start of color in the fall of 1967.

in my previous post with the data on the Oceanic French color TV, i was stating that in the 1968/69/70 lineup, all CRTs were rectangular.

I extracted the Oceanic spec sheet from 14 pages of a French magazine "Le Haut-Parleur" which published a yearly Radio/TV special issue listing all models on the market.

I sent the 14 pages to our friend Old_TVNut, maybe he'll include them on his site.

Best Regards
jhalphen

[oldtvman]

Originally Posted by Philco123

That Zenith at the top of this thread looks great !

I have to say Zenith definitely put quality into their early stuff. Part of the reason why the old Zenith's hold up is they put the tubes on top of the chassis and passive components below the base plate.

I set these thing all by eye, haven't used cross hatch in years.

[old_tv_nut]

Originally Posted by jhalphen

Hi to all,

I sent the 14 pages to our friend Old_TVNut, maybe he'll include them on his site.

Best Regards
jhalphen

Thanks for the nudge - I didn't think of it at first.

http://www.bretl.com/documents/1969-...chcolorTVs.pdf

[Popester]

Those pictures of the Flintstones made me realize that all my growing up years when Saturday morning cartoons were on all morning, I would of been watching those in B/W. Thinking about it now, your never really miss what you never had. At 60 years old I realize now that I went through an era where everyone grew up with B/W tv and transistioned into glorious color tv. Now these days with technology it seems like that's almost a daily event in today's world. Where one day some marvel of technology doesn't exist and then the next day it is for sale somewhere. Recently I was watching my all time favorite morning Hanna Barbera cartoon Johny Quest on DVD. Oh the places around the globe he visited because of his fathers job as a scientist. educational without letting us know that it was.

[oldtvman]

Originally Posted by Popester

Those pictures of the Flintstones made me realize that all my growing up years when Saturday morning cartoons were on all morning, I would of been watching those in B/W. Thinking about it now, your never really miss what you never had. At 60 years old I realize now that I went through an era where everyone grew up with B/W tv and transistioned into glorious color tv. Now these days with technology it seems like that's almost a daily event in today's world. Where one day some marvel of technology doesn't exist and then the next day it is for sale somewhere. Recently I was watching my all time favorite morning Hanna Barbera cartoon Johny Quest on DVD. Oh the places around the globe he visited because of his fathers job as a scientist. educational without letting us know that it was.

In the beginning if you had a color set your viewing habits were different than those with B & W. First thing is you got a copy of tv guide which showed the color programs for the next week. In our area we were especially lucky, we WMAQ the countries first local color station, then WGN jumped on the color bandwagon in the very early 60's. Funny thing was after 1966 when most shows went to color, the newness and novelty of color didn't have the same glimmer. Then once more and more people got color you found out most of them didn't have a clue as to how to set their tv's up for optimum viewing.

[dtvmcdonald]

I lived in Ft. Worth TX, and we were also very lucky, our Channel 5 WBAP got color
locally in 1954 and very soon (months) went to all color local programming.
We did not have a color set, but my uncle did right from the start, and our next door neighbor soon after. We were only 4 miles from the station so got great signals.

[Dude111]

I love the flinstones


Thank you!!!!!!!

[John Marinello]

Early porthole?

[Electronic M]

Originally Posted by John Marinello

Early porthole?

Very early...predates mechanical TVs by thousands of years. Back then they made a picture by having a humming bird fly in from the studio and wave a lightning bug around the screen.

[oldtvman]

Until later in the 60's if there was a color program on, you generally didn't have to worry about another color show being on. The TV guide had a section by the index that would show color programs coming on for the week ahead.

[oldtvman]

Originally Posted by dtvmcdonald

I lived in Ft. Worth TX, and we were also very lucky, our Channel 5 WBAP got color
locally in 1954 and very soon (months) went to all color local programming.
We did not have a color set, but my uncle did right from the start, and our next door neighbor soon after. We were only 4 miles from the station so got great signals.

I was seven in 1954, but I did get a chance to see a couple of color shows later in the fifties.

[Robert Grant]

Originally Posted by ceebee23

Interesting that the titles were not in the safe area for roundies given that at the time the show was originally created in color many if not most sets would have been roundies???

In 1966, most sets were rectangular - and the CRT type ended in a "4".

[WA3WLJ]

What did Barney do for a Living ?