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Old 04-07-2003, 02:41 AM
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Seller claims that this was the first color set available for sale to the public, something none of the TV historians even knew!

I wonder what CRT is in it. Nice score for someone though as these sets are bowkoo rare.

Rob
Rob,

The description says it was MOTOROLA'S first color set available for sale to the public, which is correct. Or has the description been edited since you first saw it?

These sets were manufactured with 19VP22s, but Motorola changed out most of them with 21AXP22s when that tube became available.

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Old 04-07-2003, 11:49 AM
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wv,

According to ebay the description was modified.on April 03 at 21:43 PST. I wouldn't have made that comment if I'd read what it now says.

I'm actually very surprised there are no bidders on this yet at the $1000 price, given its historical value. Perhaps the 21" retrofit is seen as reducing its value?

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Old 04-07-2003, 05:24 PM
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I'm actually very surprised there are no bidders on this yet at the $1000 price, given its historical value. Perhaps the 21" retrofit is seen as reducing its value?

Rob
I'm surprised, too. It is, after all, more rare than a CT-100.

For me, it would be worth more with the factory modification. A new mask was supplied by Motorola, as well as hardware changes, so it still looked original after the mod. Working 21AXP22s can still be found today, while 19VP22s are extremely scarce. If the 21AXP22 becomes extinct, you could still use a 21FBP22 in a modified 1954 Motorola.

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Old 04-10-2003, 06:39 PM
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Going,going,gone

This nifty 50's Motorola 21" conversion went for the one and only posted bid of $1,000.00
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Did it go to anyone we know? Perhaps it will show up here later on AK?
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Old 04-19-2003, 12:56 PM
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I'm the guy who just bought the Motorola. I've been interested in getting a vintage tube type TV, but wanted one that was already working. The set is still in transit from Chicago, I'll let you know how well it works when it arrives and is all set up.

Someone noted that the CRT for this set is still available new (in fact, when is spoke with the seller, he pointed out that the picture tube was replaced along with all the capaciters and four bad vacuum tubes). I'm curious to know where you can get replacement picture tubes since if I'm going to keep this set for a while I may as well get a spare or two while they're still being made. I also fool around with old cars, and know all too well many parts are made of "unobtainium" if you wait too long--spares are often a must!

Any other suggestions you all may have on the care and upkeep of a vintage tube-type TV is also appreciated, of course!



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Old 04-20-2003, 01:56 AM
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Joe,

Welcome to the forum!

Your Motorola uses a 21AXP22. This tube was first introduced late in 1954, and was used in new color sets up to 1958. It has been out of production for many years, and tube rebuilders stopped rebuilding them a couple of years ago. The information you received about the tube still being available new is absolutely false.

That being said, however, I have seen at least two NOS (new-old stock) 21AXP22s on eBay in the last six months. These are unused tubes that were manufactured 25 - 45 years ago and are still good. They have been going lately for $600 - $900. If you see one and have the money to spend, I would grab it.

The 21AXP22 is a metal shell tube. You said that the tube in your set has been replaced. It's possible that it was replaced with a newer all-glass type, the 21FBP22. That tube was introduced in 1960, and a larger quantity of those were built. However, it is also out of production, and not being rebuilt anymore.

For lots of good information, see the following link:

http://www.earlytelevision.org/

Good luck with the set. It is one of the rarest early color sets in existence.

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Old 04-22-2003, 09:49 PM
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Availability of replacement picture tubes for my "new" TV.

For what it's worth, I found a place that advertises that they rebuild antique picture tubes (they say the Philco Predica is the most common picture tube they rebuild).

The URL is: http://www.hawkeyepicturetube.com/

Hawk-Eye Picture Tube Mfg., Inc.
724 Scott Avenue, Des Moines, IA. 50309/5052
Phone # 515/288-8567 • Fax # 515/288-8568

I haven't inquired yet, but I probably will E-mail them soon and inquire about whether they do 50s era color picture tubes like this Motorola.



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Old 04-22-2003, 09:55 PM
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he will rebuild you one. BUT it is going to cost you half as much as you paid for your tv. and you will have to send a rebuildable dud.
me and another guy bought his last 2 21" guns. steve
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