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Old 04-13-2021, 10:02 AM
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Maybe the volare had a particularly bad design or build of torsion bar suspension but torsion bar suspension as a design is actually much better than leaf or even most coil spring systems.

Case in point the first auto maker to adopt it for consumer vehicles (prior to that it was only found in race cars) was the luxury brand Packard around 1955. Mopar adopted it around 1957 and most mopar cars, from then until the introduction of the Macpearson strut equipped K-cars, were torsion bar suspension equipped.
Properly designed torsion bar suspension almost doesn't need shock absorbers a to avoid oscillations after hitting a large bump, and unlike a coil spring car where when the springs get worn and the car starts to sit lower you HAVE to replace the springs to restore ride height and suspension performance, torsion bars can be adjusted to restore (or purposely change) ride height and suspension performance. Also generally speaking replacing springs in torsion bar suspension is safer since the shaft only has to rotate a handful of degrees to unload and can't readily turn into a missile in the wrong hands the way a coil spring can.

My 02 Chevy suburban even has torsion bar front suspension and almost 150k into it's life the original suspension is still doing fine despite my tendencies to load the thing with 2k lbs of crap, drive over curbs and off road, traverse country RR crossings at 50MPH, power slide on corners and otherwise drive it like I stole it.
I didn't think GM had the insight to use torsion bar suspension.
The very first Volkswagen had torsion bars.
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Old 04-13-2021, 11:31 AM
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Yeah the 4x4 GMT400 and all GMT800 trucks use torsion bars up front, Toyota had been using that on trucks since the 70s. I think it has more to do with Chrysler's quality in the 70s. There was a reason they almost went bankrupt in the early 80s. Also lots of Chrysler cars and trucks didn't get hydraulic lifters until the 80s.
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Old 04-14-2021, 05:59 AM
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My 1984 Buick Riviera has torsion bars for the front suspension.
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Old 04-14-2021, 04:33 PM
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Abandoned Gas Tanks+Monster Truck...

Gas tanks in a barn.

Monster Truck at a Restaurant...
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Old 02-28-2022, 07:07 AM
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Henry Ford Would Cry

This was found in the rear parking lot of a small office complex.
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Old 06-09-2022, 05:57 AM
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Two F-150s

These two trucks have been sitting in this guy's front yard for the past 15 years. Its unknown if they run but they are properly licensed (and insured?) according to the municipality.
I think he's sitting on them for the value to appreciate.
He should probably put a car cover over them to keep the rust down.
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