1963 Setchell Carlson color roundie

[ohohyodafarted]

in the early 70's Ball also was in the computer business. I recall they were making disc drives.

[Olorin67]

Setchell Carlson was sold by the founders around 1966, to Marquette Electronics, who went bankrupt a little over a year later, before they had fully paid the founders. Bart Setchell got nothing, because he made sure all the other shareholders were paid first. 3M bought most of it- mainly to get SC's plant in New Brighton. For a little while the School TVs were re-branded as Wollensak products- also owned by 3M. I have a Wollensak branded school TV(mid '68 date codes), with 3M stickers on some of the modules. 3M sold the S-C product lines to Audiotronics (famous for school record players) not long after that, I have another School TV from mid '69, that is branded Setchell Carlson, but still mentions Marquette on the sticker on the back. Audiotronics continued the S-C name on video gear. Not sure what the connection to Ball is, maybe that came later. One reference I found said Miratel had a plant in St. Paul and was started by Ex S-C employees. SC also had a plant in St. paul, maybe that became the Miratel plant after the Marquette Electronics bankruptcy.

[Kevin Kuehn]

I have a couple rectangular color sets that were made in 68. So now I wonder who made those sets? The back covers and chassis still say Setchell Carlson, Saint Paul MN. No mention of Marquette Electronics, 3M or Audiotronics. I wonder if Bart still had some connection at this late time?

[Electronic M]

Originally Posted by Kevin Kuehn

I have a couple rectangular color sets that were made in 68. So now I wonder who made those sets? The back covers and chassis still say Setchell Carlson, Saint Paul MN. No mention of Marquette Electronics, 3M or Audiotronics. I wonder if Bart still had some connection at this late time?

If you ever feel like selling one of those rectangular SC color sets let me know.

[maxm]

Years ago I had one of the Ball-Miratel color video monitors that I purchased at an estate sale. It was missing some parts and I never got to see it working. I sold to another collector, I'm not sure if they ever got it going. There can't be too many of them still around.

[Kevin Kuehn]

Very fascinating. That actually has the same SC units as my 68 color sets, less the IF unit, and I see they beefed up the power supply for full time studio use. Thanks for sharing these photo's, maxm. Apologies to Zenithfan for us hijacking his color roundy post, but some of this history is very interesting.

[dieseljeep]

Originally Posted by Telecruiser

Somewhere in the back of my mind, there was a connection between Setchell Carlson and Ball-Miratel who made color video monitors. Am I imagining this? Ball also made (still makes) glass jars for home canning... Go figure.

The green monochrome monitors used on machine tools were made by Ball Bros. The logo was the same as the packaging products.
Ball also owns the old Schlitz can plant on the northwest side of Milwaukee.
Miller brewery uses their products, exclusively.

[Kevin Kuehn]

Here's a little timeline of Ball Miratel's video monitor operation. It's still sketchy who was manufacturing the consumer division of Setchell Carlson TV's during the late 60's.

http://www.tech-notes.tv/History&Tri...l_brothers.htm

[dieseljeep]

Originally Posted by Kevin Kuehn

Here's a little timeline of Ball Miratel's video monitor operation. It's still sketchy who was manufacturing the consumer division of Setchell Carlson TV's during the late 60's.

http://www.tech-notes.tv/History&Tri...l_brothers.htm

The firm I worked at bought three CNC machine tools in 1978. The one with the Bendix control had a Setchell Carlson display, the Giddings & Lewis controls, had Ball Brothers displays.
I didn't think, there was any relationship between the two.
Other strange manufacturing relationships, like Helena Rubenstein building R390 receivers.

[Electronic M]

Originally Posted by maxm

Years ago I had one of the Ball-Miratel color video monitors that I purchased at an estate sale. It was missing some parts and I never got to see it working. I sold to another collector, I'm not sure if they ever got it going. There can't be too many of them still around.

I want one of those.

[zenithfan1]

Don't worry about hijacking the thread lol. The history of these sets has been a good read!

[zenithfan1]

Thanks for sharing that manual Kevin. I was just looking it over and these things are built like a tank. I really can't wait to see what kind of picture I can get on this thing. The audio section looks good for blasting music videos lol

[holmesuser01]

Seeing that service manual makes me want a S-C set very badly.

[Electronic M]

Originally Posted by Kevin Kuehn

Here's a little timeline of Ball Miratel's video monitor operation. It's still sketchy who was manufacturing the consumer division of Setchell Carlson TV's during the late 60's.

http://www.tech-notes.tv/History&Tri...l_brothers.htm

An interesting read, but considering that was taken from reports to share holders, and HOW BADLY those reports to the holders were written, I'm surprised anyone wanted to own their stock......It's like they hired a grade school kid to write their reports.

[Kevin Kuehn]

Originally Posted by zenithfan1

Don't worry about hijacking the thread lol. The history of these sets has been a good read!

Here's a fun little read, although it's kind of sparse on pictures. Apparently they weren't too keen on showing pictures of their new plants. It's really amazing to think they went from putting up two new facilities, to selling off the company in a matter of a few years. I guess things have always happened fast in the electronics industry.