No market for S-VHS

[Chip Chester]

Sharp had an LCD monitor with D-VHS direct in, too. I have a need for one, if anyone has one sitting around... Somewhere around here I have the model number.

Chip

[Electronic M]

Analog HD recording.
Wikipedia knows all...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W-VHS
Edit:looks like dish dude beat me to it as I was writing.

[centralradio]

Originally Posted by dishdude

I've never heard of it either.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W-VHS

Originally Posted by Electronic M

Analog HD recording.
Wikipedia knows all...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W-VHS
Edit:looks like dish dude beat me to it as I was writing.

You can blame the entertainment industry for holding this up not letting this go like the blueray recorders.

[Chip Chester]

I saw an analog HD demonstration at NAB one year. 1" video tape machine, modified accordingly. Great image, and about 20 minutes per reel of (normally) 1.5 hour video tape. Great image, without "banding" associated with digital.

I do think you can get HDMI-to-(something else) converters now, but they don't pass HDCP(?) encoded signals.

I have heard that some versions of LCD TV can be "parted out" for circuitry to address this issue. There was a certain model with a 4-input HDMI switcher that would satisfy HDCP-encoded signals and pass a signal "scrubbed" of that data, for whatever purpose. Don't have a need myself, so I haven't tried it.

Chip

[Visual]

Originally Posted by yamahaha

I am a part time picker. An old fellow I know was one of those wedding video guys for years in the 80s and 90's. He had me over as he wants to sell all his gear.

I bought a few classic VCR's from him but the pro S-VHS gear ... I really didn't know what I would do with it. This guy spent thousands on this stuff I know. He has a few Cameras, playback decks, editing deck about 10 VCR's .... slide projectors, you know the ones that took pictures of negatives to place into the videos.

I don't like to break an old guys heart but I don't know anyone that uses any of this anymore.

I even called 2 film schools who told me they gave away all their old school stuff years ago. As in 10 years ago.

The short of this long wind is ... does anyone even collect anything but the good prosumer decks? I am hoping to get him taking a look at these answers because he is still in denial although he totally wants all this stuff out of the house. From what I can tell, its like my 486 computers. They were a few grand each at the time but worthless today.

[Ed in Tx]

I don't know... but VHS could come back as a special effect like the old film effect with dirt and scratches... might want to re-contact those schools and tell them about this new retro art form.

I've seen a new Progressive Insurance Flo ad recently that is obviously to the knowing eye made to look like an old VHS tape, complete with fuzzy resolution, slight smear, a wandering switching point at the bottom of the picture with a bit of skew, and warble in the audio!

Definitely No affiliation!

http://at.progressive.com/fun-and-en...school-special

[dishdude]

Wow that Yamaha is a rare bird. It really looks like it was made by JVC.

[Visual]

Kenwood KV-917HF VHSls symilar

Toshiba DX-900 Digital VCR, Light Pen 1987

[dishdude]

That Kenwood also looks very JVC.

[dr.ido]

I've seen a lot of stuff with a "VHS-like" effect on it, so the look is already kind of back at least in the form of an effect plugin for editting software. I doubt anyone will be giving up their flash memory camcorder or DSLR and editing software to get the real thing.

I guess somewhere out there may be a film student boasting that they shoot and edit on real analog tape.

Maybe you could build a kind of VHS tape loop delay out of a couple of VCRs and a couple of HDMI to Composite converters. As the tape got progressively worn you'd get the authentic crappy rental copy look.

[Chip Chester]

Occasionally folks take the direct approach for simulating VHS...

http://www.mtv.com/news/1659391/foo-...rs-rope-video/

Chip

[Ed in Tx]

Just saw that "Flo" insurance ad again. One technical issue they missed, if it was really true to form, the 16:9 would be letterboxed within a 4:3 frame, and the head switching would be at the bottom of the black bar. But they got the rest of the VHS tape effect pretty close.

[Ed in Tx]

Just saw that "Flo" insurance ad again. One technical issue they missed, if it was really true to form, the wide shot would be letterboxed within a 4:3 frame, and the head switching would be at the bottom of the black bar. But they got the rest of the VHS tape effect pretty close.

[loopstick]

To me a flying erase head is more important than the higher resolution. I look at VCR's at the thrifts to see if they are SVHS. I used to have the JVC Ed mentioned. It got zapped when lightening struck something up the street. I didn't see it. It was "nap" time and it sounded like a bomb.

So my question is: How do you determine the difference between "prosumer" and "other". Would the combination of flying erase head and SVHS fall into the "prosumer" category, or the "other" category? If it can fall into the "other" category then the market is obviously not restricted to "prosumer".

[Ed in Tx]

Flying erase is important if you do editing. Cleans up the video insertion points for the first few seconds until the fully erased part of the tape gets to the head cylinder. Does zero for picture resolution.

Your JVC that got hit- I'd say maybe a good chance it could have been fixed with a fuse and a power supply drive transistor.