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Old 02-05-2019, 06:11 PM
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Well having not dealt with any Muntz color I guess I was suspecting the same old crap they played with their B&W sets. Having that said, I would love to see a rectangular color Muntz if you have a picture!! I have always liked the etc 15 chassis for the reasons electronic M mentioned in these off brand sets and because of the rugged FLY design. Having the off brands is my thing after all, having sets ranging from AMC, Setchell Carslon, Heathkit, Penncrest, and a few mainstream sets.
I still worry about the fly on the roundy clones...RCAs HV design tended to be an exercise in brinksmanship at worst and a case of not building in quite as much tolerance to real-world conditions as there should be at best...Many of the early 15 clones used RCA built chassis too so you got a real RCA, warts and all.
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Old 02-05-2019, 08:55 PM
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Very nice, I'm surprised didn't Wells Gardner make wards tv's for them? I suppose it would be a clone aswell, I have a 1968 AMC color made by wells gardener, it has the C3 chassis they also sold to Electrohome. Great quality. Has a Very beefy silicon flyback
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Old 02-05-2019, 10:01 PM
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Both Sears and Wards had more than one supplier for both domestic and Japanese TVs...They wanted a product at a price point on their shelves and achieved it thru supplier competition.
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Old 02-06-2019, 12:25 AM
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That makes since, also I have seen a rectangular Curtis Mathes with the ctc15 clone chassis, wouldn't mind one of those if it wasn't giant. When I was in high school the first tv I restored was a 58 Hoffman I found in a abandoned repair mans shop. The owner have me it, actually there was 2, one was in bad shape but has a good tube and the other was mint but necked, it came together great. I watched it for years with no real problem then sold it. So this color set is kinda neat to me cause I admired Hoffman's history, I actually got to meet the 58s owner and learned how they ended up in South Dakota! Next week I'm giving a 67 packard bell a new home so I guess my hoffman will have a California brother so to speak. Thank you both for the info btw
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Old 02-06-2019, 10:34 AM
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That makes since, also I have seen a rectangular Curtis Mathes with the ctc15 clone chassis, wouldn't mind one of those if it wasn't giant. When I was in high school the first tv I restored was a 58 Hoffman I found in a abandoned repair mans shop. The owner have me it, actually there was 2, one was in bad shape but has a good tube and the other was mint but necked, it came together great. I watched it for years with no real problem then sold it. So this color set is kinda neat to me cause I admired Hoffman's history, I actually got to meet the 58s owner and learned how they ended up in South Dakota! Next week I'm giving a 67 packard bell a new home so I guess my hoffman will have a California brother so to speak. Thank you both for the info btw
If you watched the earlier "All in the Family" episodes, they had a 23" B/W console, early 60's model Hoffman. It was just a prop. IIRC, an empty cabinet.
They never showed the front. As a complete set, it was a great set.
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Old 02-07-2019, 05:42 AM
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Did that set use a 1B3?
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Old 02-07-2019, 09:43 AM
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Did that set use a 1B3?
I remember the episode! Most of the B/W sets did.
Motorola was the only one that used 3A3's in their larger screen sets at the time.
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Old 02-08-2019, 08:24 AM
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That set looks awfully familiar...
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Yup Mark, I suppose it does! It's on my bench for now, I got everything close to wraped up
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Glad to see it being used, lots more will get new homes this spring. I'd rather have a couple old cars than 50 old tvs...
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Hey, I got myself a muntz built airline. It's quite nice! it's got the CTC 15 chassis as well. Thanks for the info. I find it odd how they updated the look from yours to mine so much. The fly in mine is toast and the tube is weak, but I got spares so I'll likely stick a black matrix in it. This one also has that Magnavox cinema controls.
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I remember the episode! Most of the B/W sets did.
Motorola was the only one that used 3A3's in their larger screen sets at the time.
I always wanted a good look at Archie's TV or at least the remote, Always figgered it was GE or Sears - looked like a very slim 23" BW from the rear.

BTW *My* first TV was a '63 Motorola 19" (see avatar) used a 3A3 HV rect and 5U4 on an angle bracket from the power trans, uber-plain gray/silver but w/UHF, sure as heck not one of their lighter models either.
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I thought Hoffman once was located in Minnesota like Setchell-Carlson. It was a west-coast brand like P-B, rarely seen here and only because someone brought it when they moved east.

Now its REAL funny Dieseljeep mentions this Hoffman and a Muntz clone with a 25AP22, indeed!

I got a Muntz-branded Combo and it was only 10 years old, but a "newer set" to a novice-tech in 11th grade Vo-tech electronics who just learned to use a B&K analyst.
The plain walnut cabinet had an AM-FM radio with record player under a lid, area above the escutcheon raised just enough to accommodate them.
6x9 coaxial(?) speakers firing out the sides of this big box, with grills cut into the veneer plywood. I think I have the Sams for it too.

Not surprised to hear others praise Muntz in THIS case, it ended up looking very good, I credit RCA CTC12-15-16 experience up to that point, then sold it to a friend whose parents moved into an apartment and had to downsize. Fortunately they had cable at the new place, it was NOT an RCA tuner Im pretty sure.

Once I fixed all the PW700/6GU7 wiring and adjusted HV -convergence- Eff coil, not much more work until it was as good as an RCA, often having lurking issues.

The tuner was definitely not impressive! Same Standard -Kollsman that Magnavox and GE used with an even cheaper, non-lighted U/V selector knob like so many Sears. I think it had strips, not wafers.
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