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Old 08-13-2017, 10:30 PM
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Here is one that looks pretty good in the YouTube clips, Esther Williams in Cypress Gardens, from 8-8-60. Some of it is color film, but the parts with Esther, Fernando Lamas and Joey Bishop look to be color videotape. Hugh Downs does a beer commercial that's very good too. To quote a Billy Crystal line when he did Fernando, they "look marvelous." It looks like most of it was shot outside. The second clip is longer and has several musical numbers and the first one starts with the NBC peacock.

Here are some clips...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvq-Y-HQ17o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=913eJIf1nGg

And here is where you can get this color special and many others. The Film Collectors Society of America. It's $14.99 plus shipping.

http://www.thefilmcsa.com/esther-wil...s-gardens.html

Here is their listing of TV specials and many date to the 1960-65 era. It's a treasure trove of stuff and many things I've never heard of before. I have no experience buying any of their offerings so proceed at your own risk. But just looking through their catalog is like stepping back in time for me.

http://www.thefilmcsa.com/tv.html
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Here is one that looks pretty good in the YouTube clips, Esther Williams in Cypress Gardens, from 8-8-60.
I agree that the talent shots seem to be live camera to tape, but I wouldn't call any of this even "pretty" good. The video response is awful, blurred and with ringing on the edges (probably from too many generations of different tape formats would be my guess), the hue changes drastically from near normal to yellow/greenish faces later on, and the MPEG coding has significant I-frame pulsing and detail artifact twitching, and appears to be down-rez'd too far, although it's hard to tell since the original video response is so bad. The only positive thing to note is that any noise in the source has been removed in all these generations of processing.
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Old 08-14-2017, 02:24 PM
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One other oddity that showed up on "legit" DVD a while back: "The Shirley Temple Show", a/k/a "Shirley Temple's Storybook." The transfers were very good, and most were shot on color tape in 1960. The shows themselves...pretty terrible.
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No color cameras other than TK-41's were available in 1960.

GE was still in the broadcast equipment business in the 60's & 70's This included a line of color cameras. Here is a GE color camera photographed in the late 1970's.
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Thanks all for the replies. I'm going to see if I can't get in touch with Dan Wingate, the fellow that restored an Eddie Fisher color kine, a Dinah Shore color kine, and the filmed color Burns and Allen program from 1954. I have a project I'm working on that could benefit from nice examples of very early color footage.
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That's amazing. very crisp video and the color fidelity is good, and the flesh tones look right on.
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Old 09-24-2017, 06:45 AM
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Steve Allen Plymouth Show 1959...

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"An episode of "The Steve Allen Plymouth Show". Unfortunately there is a time-code on this copy. Complete with original commercials for Plymouth, but credits are missing. A variety show, with performers including Frankie Laine, Jack Kerouac, Pam Garner, William Bendix, Dayton Allen, and Gabriel Dell."
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Old 09-24-2017, 10:50 AM
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Does make one wonder what the pictures looked like on the sets of the ... live programs such as football etc.

And I do wonder what the few CBS color system programs looked in terms of color reproduction but that is another topic.
I don't have to wonder I was a witness to it all.
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