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kramden66 12-03-2017 02:13 AM

Motorola 19k3 chassis ts-101 help needed
 
I don't get any pic or sound , the mix Osc was not lighting , found a .2 ohm choke was open m jumped it with a wire , still nothing , tried sign generator , ripples / rf interference on screen on 6ah6 and 12au7 , 3rd if there is same but might not be as strong , 2nd if nothing , checked resistors , open coils etc , nothing found , here is a list



V7 video 6ah6 pin 1 is 18 volts , should be 1 volt
V5 third if 6cb6 pin 2 is .850 volts should be 1.4
V4 second if 6cb6 pin 1 is -227 should be -.5
V3 first if 6cb6 pin 1 is -.377 should be -1
V2 mix Osc 12at7 pin 2 is -1.5 should be -3.6
V1 rf 6cb6 pin one is -4.00 should be -3.2# pin 2 is 1 should be .5

SAMs online
http://www.earlytelevision.org/pdf/m...sams_122-5.pdf

Mike

Kevin Kuehn 12-03-2017 11:49 AM

Mike, sorry I don't have an answer to your problem. But I couldn't help but notice something weird is happening to the clarity of these schematics during the process of Steve posting them on the ETF website. It appears as if they're getting thrown way out of focus. I've seen it happen in the past and I thought we had figured it out, but now here it is again with this Motorola schematic. :scratch2:

kramden66 12-03-2017 01:29 PM

Kevin they printed out clear , only thing I can think of is they got compressed somewhere along the line , that would impact the clarity

kramden66 12-03-2017 11:16 PM

If I knew how I'd bypass the tuner and if section and feed right into the video , audio I think you just feed into the volume taps, the outer ignoring the center if I'm not mistaken

Phil Nelson 12-04-2017 12:21 AM

This article has some info about directly injecting video and audio in a vintage TV:

https://antiqueradio.org/A-V_AdapterForVintageTVs.htm

The TV used in that article was a different (Admiral) set, but you may be able to adapt the principles for your TV.

Regards,

Phil Nelson
Phil's Old Radios
https://antiqueradio.org/index.html

Kevin Kuehn 12-04-2017 03:43 PM

Mike,

If by chance you have a B&K analyst you can feed video direct into the video amp, you just need to get the polarity correct. Sometimes I've been able to directly inject component video into the video amp, too. Just depends on the TV circuit whether or not the signal needs inverting. Or maybe you want to permanently use component inputs? In that case Phil's article is of great help.

Electronic M 12-04-2017 04:21 PM

The B&K analyst can be a godsend in these situations. Not only can it inject video, but IF and several channels of RF too. Knowing if your If chain is good before going after the tuner is essential. You won't realize you fixed a bad stage if there is another bad one between it and your output unless you use signal injection.

kramden66 12-04-2017 11:40 PM

In that article the schematic shows inject video to pin 4 , so the plus goes there and the ground to the chassis ground ?

Kevin Kuehn 12-05-2017 01:45 AM

Yes. But I'm not sure if your set uses the same tube type and pin out?

kramden66 12-05-2017 12:06 PM

The video circuit is similar , the brightness goes to a different pin ?

Kevin Kuehn 12-05-2017 06:20 PM

Not sure what you're asking. I was referring to the video amp circuit using a different tube type.

kramden66 12-05-2017 07:21 PM

10lp4 in the admiral schematic , my Motorola uses 19ap4 .
If you look at the admiral video section and the Motorola looks similar.
I put up a link to the SAMs for the moto , that link to article shows a part of the admiral schematic .

Kevin Kuehn 12-06-2017 03:52 PM

The difference is the Admiral has a dc coupled video circuit, therefore they applied the brightness bias to the CRT grid. Notice the lack of coupling caps from the video amp plate to the CRT cathode. On your Moto you have a .1uf cap coupling the video to the CRT cathode, which allows the brightness bias to be applied to the same point.

kramden66 12-06-2017 06:33 PM

So you don't think it will work injection the signal on the moto ?

Kevin Kuehn 12-06-2017 07:45 PM

I think it will work just fine. But you'll need to connect to pin 1 of your 6AH6(video amp), not pin 4 as in Phil's Admiral example.


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