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tom.j.fla 11-06-2017 12:19 PM

Have a ? . Did you ring the fly you got from Eric H. It could be the wrong one or fil. voltage for the 1B3 is low or the 4.7K resistor in hv line is way high in value don't forget the 15 ohm resistor that's between the damper section and H. output plate section of the flyback. All the best, Tom.J

miniman82 11-06-2017 12:40 PM

I don’t think so Eric, if there were anything wrong with it then it would have failed ring test or not worked at all. Boost voltage is low as well, there’s not much bootstrapping action going on. That’s what leads me to believe it needs more B+ in the first place, but I know nothing without seeing the spec sheet. I could see this exact thing happening if a fly was fed half the voltage it should have, but again I need proof.

wa2ise 11-07-2017 01:17 PM

Maybe you have the horizontal output tube plate connected to a wrong terminal, in that the output pulses are going thru too much of the flyback coil. That would lead to lower high voltage and lower boost... :scratch2:

Check with an ohmmeter (with the set off) and see if you find a terminal around half the resistance than that you have the output tube plate connected to. That terminal might be the one to use. If you do change something, test fire up the set and measure the voltages to see if they are closer to correct, and check the cathode current of the output tube (and check that the tube isn't red-plating).

Crist Rigott 11-08-2017 06:48 PM

Nick,
Do you happen to have a Ram p/n that you need. My buddy has a lot of Ram fly backs.

Dave Tilotta 11-09-2017 07:51 PM

As an FYI, here's what my catalog has.

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h1...psmlsnvpb5.jpg
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h1...psd7awljel.jpg

miniman82 11-09-2017 08:36 PM

Crist, Ram number shown in Sams is X-129.

Dave, thank you for the info. I’ll compare it to what I have in the chassis, to see if it makes sense.

Crist Rigott 11-10-2017 09:25 PM

Thanks Nick. Next time out we'll look for one and let you know.

miniman82 11-11-2017 02:45 PM

Thanks!

miniman82 12-15-2017 09:55 PM

Crist, any chance you found a compatible flyback? Unfortunately the Merit one I got from Eric is no good, the outermost part of the HV donut is overheating for some reason.

Crist Rigott 12-17-2017 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miniman82 (Post 3193507)
Crist, any chance you found a compatible flyback? Unfortunately the Merit one I got from Eric is no good, the outermost part of the HV donut is overheating for some reason.

Nick,
No joy on the RAM part number. Can you provide the Sylvania part number?

Kevin Kuehn 12-18-2017 12:52 AM

I've got these 2 Admirals that are apparently close to the HVO 54. The first is new but I only see 3 terminals? No spec sheet either. Second is a pull from a mid 50's Admiral chassis 21A3Z ( Sams 275-2). You can try one or both for postage. If it fixes your problem I'd take a 10 buck donation, or not. :)

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4731/2...b8e6c474_b.jpg

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4601/3...dd1b153a_b.jpg

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4588/3...a861b768_b.jpg

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4638/3...305d9e54_b.jpg

miniman82 12-21-2017 12:28 PM

Kevin, PM sent!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crist Rigott (Post 3193623)
Nick, no joy on the RAM part number. Can you provide the Sylvania part number?


Crist, the Sylvania number listed in Sams is 241-0042 or 241-0037 depending on the chassis. Not sure what difference it makes.

dieseljeep 12-21-2017 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miniman82 (Post 3193507)
Crist, any chance you found a compatible flyback? Unfortunately the Merit one I got from Eric is no good, the outermost part of the HV donut is overheating for some reason.

What year is that Sylvania and the chassis number? CRT type?
The Admiral fly shown is for a set with 90 degree sweep and 21AMP4!

Kevin Kuehn 12-21-2017 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dieseljeep (Post 3193778)
What year is that Sylvania and the chassis number? CRT type?
The Admiral fly shown is for a set with 90 degree sweep and 21AMP4!

I think I see your point.
Both Sylvania part numbers Nick lists cross to Fly 171, vs the Admiral 79C60-2 crosses to Fly 76, and the 79C60-5 to a Fly 77.
Lets make sure the deflection angles match before we make a donation to the USPS.

Kevin Kuehn 12-21-2017 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miniman82 (Post 3190984)
I recently picked up a Halolight but unfortunately it won’t make any HV and fails ring test after recap. If anyone has a Merit HVO-54, Thordarson FLY-76, Triad D-49 or other suitable replacement please let me know. Chassis is a 1-533-8.

OK, I looked up your chassis 1-533-8 in Sams 352-16, and it does appear to be a 90 degree deflection CRT. I'm sure you knew that. ;)

I don't know why your OEM fly numbers cross to a Fly 171 in my Thordarson reference, but it could be something as simple as an extra tie-point terminal.


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